04/18/2022 UPDATE: Digital Foundry FULL Ghostwire Tokyo PS5 vs Xbox Series X analysis

*Dew to analysis priority I have bumped the GamingTech comparison from the thread adding DF's full comparison and will be adding IGN's analysis when it becomes available*

Ghostwire: Tokyo - Xbox Tech Review - No Improvement on PS5, Worse on Xbox Series X/S

• 10 visual options to choose from on Xbox Series X and PS5

1. Quality
2. Performance
3. Quality HFR 60Hz
4. Quality HFR VSync 60Hz
5. Quality HFR 120Hz
6. Quality HFR VSync 120Hz
7. Performance HFR 60Hz
8. Performance HFR VSnc 60Hz
9. Performance HFR 120Hz
10. Performance HFR VSync 120Hz

• 5 settings for motion blur. This analysis uses High
• The QUALITY MODE/S uses RT reflections and hybrid RT shadows
• RT effects are higher resolution on PS5 than Xbox Series X but DF does not reveal by what amount
• There are also other cut backs on the Xbox Series X version like missing lighting in RT reflections
• Some RT shadows on Xbox Series X appear misaligned, PS5 does not have these missing/misalighed shadows
• RT shadows also look better on PS5 compared to Xbox Series X
• Xbox Series S dose not feature any form of ray-tracing...in this MS 1st party developed title 😏
• Performance modes appear to have similar resolution between PS5 & XSX
• Quality mode on PS5 is sharper & more coherent than XSX
• *In Quality mode HFR 60Hz PS5 doesn't have any dips, Series X drops frames with little happening on screen, DF speculates the culprit may be CPU issues*
• Xbox Series S runs significantly worse than both PS5and Xbox Series X hitting low 40's in perf mode.
• Avoid non-VSync modes
• Controller imput lag remains an issue on Xbox Series consoles as PS5.

Quality mode vs performance mode as shown off on Xbox Series X.

RT quality/resolution differences between PS5 and Xbox Series X

Xbox Series X and PS5 resolutions metrics

Xbox Series S resolution metrics

PS5 vs Xbox Series X performance delta snapshot

Leave any thoughts or opinions below.

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Needless to say, this being a Microsoft owned studio, there was no favoritism given to the PS5 version in development.

Furthermore, since the PC version launched day and date with PS5, the developers already had their Direct X12 code ready to make improvements to the xbox Series X version over the PS5 for over a year now since DirectX12 is ubiquitous between PC and Xbox Series platforms according to MS.

Obviously a terrible port. I've been playing and enjoying it and I don't know if I'll continue for much longer.

There's nothing here that justifies this level of performance. Even if it was the case that the X was less powerful than the PS that doesn't justify the issues. You lower whatever settings you need to make sure the game runs well.

For sure MS knows not many people run their games in VRR compatible devices. As much as MS has been doing some cool stuff there's a level of mismanagement that's just weird. Maybe their too big for their own good?

Back when Ghostwire: Tokyo released PS5/PC last year, it barely got any discission and can't say if anyone really like it at the time. I'm more impressed its getting that much attraction here in system wars even though it just released for Xbox Series.

I do need to reinstalled the game over on Steam just to continue the story though.

I'll wait for a patch.

Waiting for the patch. Microsoft wins again.

They added Denuvo, so I'm just wondering how much performance was lost on PC.

I started it last night,I'm enjoying the game.

Though I'm 120,VRR,HdMi 2.1 ready

It's obvious MS don't want to blow the ps5 version out of the water,Jim Ryan would be back on a plane flying around the world telling regulators how Xbox wont keep COD versions identical.

Now if this sounds dumb... imagine thinking the ps5 is a better console than the series x 🤣🤣

That's crazy.

Xbox and its games are the most popular topic on here, which should tell which faction has the most users here and its not Xbox lol.

@davillain: It's a cool game. I'm more surprised it didn't find an audience on the PS. Probably serves as an example of how much the PlayStation crowd changed, now it's basically the videogame version of Marvel.

Rainy night time Tokyo is a pretty awesome setting. The twist on FPS is quite cool and so is the the supernatural detective work. Feels like a game it would be right at home on the PlayStation up until early PS4 days before Sony shifted the brand focus.

Nothing groundbreaking but I'm enjoying it. Shame about the performance and controls need some tweaking before they feel acceptable.

I’m looking forward to giving this game a go via Game Pass myself.

Xbox baby!! 24/7/365.

lol :P

Xbox gets the backhand again. But, yeah, DF might be waiting on a patch. Or Uncle Phil threatened to put Rich in a headlock if they did an analysis

This doesn't have anything to do with what anyone "thinks" buddy.

Clearly, what the majority of you *think* on here shows you guys don't know anything about what makes a "better console".

This is simply a display of results from each console hardware speaking for itself.

No thinking is needed for anything here; except for coping with being wrong about which console hardware you "thought" would be producing the best results in the majority of the games coming out.

Patch what exactly? You're probably seeing the optimized results of the Xbox Series X hardware right now.

The developers have had a extra year to optimize and or patch this game on the Xbox Series X to get the best results for the hardware. The DirectX12U code for Ghostwire, which Series consoles use, was completed a year ago.

You're probably asking for a patch because you see the superior results on PS5. You probably shouldn't get your hopes up for most of the new games on XSX to match or exceed the PS5 going forward.

Have other recent AAA 3rd party PS5/XSX titles where most of the results favor PS5 taught you anything?

• Cyberpunk 2077 *next gen updated version*
• Call of Duty Warzone 2.0
• The Callisto Protocol
• Need for Speed Unbound
• Monster Hunter Rise
• Hogwarts Legacy
• Atomic Heart
• Gotham Knights
• Wild Hearts
• Resident Evil 4 Remake
• Elden Ring ect. ect.

This isn't an anomaly!

The PS5 version came in hot while still in the mist of contact restricted Covid development while also releasing simultaneously with a PC version. Xbox Series X had a full year of development to itself and without the burdens of covid contact restrictions.

This was the result!

Also, what exactly are you looking for in a patch now after a full year? Do you want them to LOWER the settings on the Series X version BELOW PS5's to get better results? I mean, they already lowed the RT...

At times it does seem as if MS has some kind of hold on DF.

After MS told them not to compare Xbox Series X with PC following their Fight Sim analysis, they just started testing PS5 vs 4090's and shit lol. Wild.

EDIT:

Oh and about that "patch" suggestion.

lol it's already been a year.

Do people really think they are going to do something in a short span of time to change the results of what we're seeing here?

DF sure didn't wait on a patch for A Pleague's tale Req or The Outer Worlds to be better on PS5 before blasting out an analysis at light speed but I digress...lol

so funny xbox fans think waiting is wining. maybe 2021, maybe 2022, 2023 still waiting xbox wins again lmao.

waiting is winning to them.

I was completely shocked to find out they added it when the game is a year old. It didn't have Denuvo when I bought it day one on Steam. I don't mind buying my games having Denuvo from time to time if it's a game I wanna play day one, but adding it over a year later has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

Anyway, I reinstalled Ghostwire: Tokyo to see what's been lost, but I'm hearing it's CPU heavy more so than it was on launch. I'll be interested in how my 5900X will fare.

If you honestly believe that then you are completely delusional.

Anyway whatever. I'll wait for the 60fps update.

Is the PS5 version superior because the PS5 is just a better design console hardware-wise?....i mean, it's more dev friendly and simple in architecture, etc?

@evil_kane: It's already know that Sony made sure that those familiar with PS4 would easily adapt to the transition to PS5. That's a huge advantage if you have developers already familiar with the development environment.

But now being a first party title that's irrelevant. This just shows that MS lacks a proper standards policy implemented. It doesn't matter if the SeriesX is half as powerful as the Switch, games should meet a certain performance standard. Be it 30 or 60.

No it shows and continues to show that MS is incompetent when it comes to game development

Xbox weekly L. All is good.

@randy_lahey: I honestly wonder if some of the stuff you hardcore warriors write around here is intentionally silly or you actually think you're making any sense.

@kathaariancode: I’m making perfect sense. Xbox series appear to perform worse vs ps5 in lots of games. Why is that when it’s supposedly more powerful?

Why are all AAA releases for Xbox delayed and why do they not have 60fps options at launch? Can you honestly look in the mirror and say “I’m content with how Xbox is doing right now”?

@randy_lahey: Wait, so you claim "making perfect sense" and then start by saying that MS sucks at game development because some 3rd party games perform better on the PS5? Jebus dude! 🤯

I mean, you could have a point if you said that they suck at hardware development, which they don't, but then that would make some sense. You could have two equally incredible systems and one would inevitably outperform the other. It would be an abnormality to have two different systems performing exactly the same.

Specially in this case the issue from the MS side imo is a standards one. They didn't develop the game but for sure as a publisher they should set a publishing quality standard in which any MS owned game should run at the target frame rate for at least 95% of the time, for example.

Regarding your question:

"Can you honestly look in the mirror and say “I’m content with how Xbox is doing right now”?"

I'm ok with how they're doing but I often criticise them. I mean, I just accused them of lacking quality standards, and my first reaction to Redfall launching only with 30 FPS mode was that they should be ashamed (paraphrasing). But I've played and keep playing great games on the system and I couldn't care less if they're first party or not, and Gamepass has been amazing so far.

@kathaariancode: You are wasting your time on this one. He was probably confused after your first sentence.

@kathaariancode: oh ok so they don’t suck at hardware and they don’t suck at software. I guess that’s why the less powerful console has been outperforming the supposedly more powerful one. How bout software wise? Any system sellers out for Xbox yet? How bout the last decade?

Gamepass is indeed a nice option, but for having the most amount studios MS STILL can’t figure out how to put out quality software at a steady pace. They throw money at the problem but that still hasn’t solved their issue. They fuckin suck at game development and studio management.

edit: this isn’t just a “cow’s” opinion. Even the most ardent Xbox supporters have been voicing their displeasure (other than the delusional nutbars like 63k🤡dro)

Another L for poor Xbox. How many more Ls can they handle? Lmao

Well, that's a bold statement if I ever saw one.

On topic: I decided to reinstall the game on PC and see what's the fuss over its Denuvo add all of a sudden. Turns out I didn't suspect any framerate drops but I have noticed it's heavy on my CPU but not a deal breaker. Glad I reinstalled the game cause I do need to finish the game this time around.

@randy_lahey said:

@Pedro said:

@kathaariancode: You are wasting your time on this one. He was probably confused after your first sentence.

Why are you crying?🤔

Unfortunately, you are not missing anything if you didn't complete it.

Has anyone been noticing how Microsoft has been getting more L's than 343i as of late? Let that sink in for a sec.

Set that in sink let that in set let in that sink in that let set in.

Don't worry " teH ToOls aRe cOmiNg."

How??!! You’re waiting on a patch.

@randy_lahey:

Talking of L'.s, ghostwire Tokyo 2 won't be coming to PlayStation.

Bu bu bu ...the game is shit in 3. ...2......

🤣🤣

A digital Foundry preview of Ghostwire Tokoy from DF Direct

TIMESTAMP: 11:33

And this video in my opening has highlighted, it's not looking good for 12 Tflop monster Xbox Sereis X vs the Secret Sauce Space Alien SSD PS5

Rich:

"Oliver you're taking a look at it now and it's actually turning out to be quantifiably worse than the existing PS5 version.."

Oliver:

"The Xbox Series X version is basically WORSE in MOST respects, with respect to the headline figures. The RT reflections are somewhat lower quality. There are shadow bugs with the RT shadows. The resolutions are pretty similar for the most part, but the quality mode has a moderately LOWER resolution than the PS5 it looks like. And performance is typically 5 to 10% worse than PS5 in the same scene."

Ouch. Dat Sony sauce must really slaps huh my xbox brothers?

Notice the RT shadows, or lack of RT shadows behind the cabinets in the lower performing Xbox Series X version compared to the 1 year old PS5 version.

When can we pre-install this?

Isn't it on GP now? I've already downloaded it from PS Plus on my PS5

Ah yes. My bad. I am getting dates mixed up like freakin' crazy. I assume it's on GP then. I am buying it though. Thanks for letting me know. I had a duh moment.

Headline: Microsoft to call on 11 congressmen to find out why Ghostwire: Tokyo runs worse on Series consoles 🤣

Keep forgetting bought this game. :<

343i began the shitshow, it was the ignition proceduce, and ever since, everything surrounding Xbox is in the shitter. I'd be lying if i told you that i didn't enjoy hate following this whole mess😁😁😁

Yikes.

The game was a financial disappointment with mixed to average reviews.

Why would they spend a ton of time on polish?

Really, i dunno WTF these Xbox Ambassadors are smoking

Hey, at least is on Gamepass. So, it is free