The Official NBA 2011-2012 Playoffs!

The Basketball season starts on Christmas Day, what are your thoughts for this season and lockout?

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Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. Master_Live

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. -Halftime-

I wouldn't say Miami has been abysmal, unless you're looking way into the past. But for about five years in a row Miami did make it to the Playoffs and they did win the championship in 2006.

But Boston, Clippers, Bulls and NY were all pretty bad for a long time until basically recently, except the Clippers. They're still pretty bad.

Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. Master_Live

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. NeonNinja

I wouldn't say Miami has been abysmal, unless you're looking way into the past. But for about five years in a row Miami did make it to the Playoffs and they did win the championship in 2006.

But Boston, Clippers, Bulls and NY were all pretty bad for a long time until basically recently, except the Clippers. They're still pretty bad.

Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"] Ignoring the fact that Miami, New York, the Clippers, The Bulls the Celtics, the Knicks have all in the recent past been abysmal.-Halftime-

I wouldn't say Miami has been abysmal, unless you're looking way into the past. But for about five years in a row Miami did make it to the Playoffs and they did win the championship in 2006.

But Boston, Clippers, Bulls and NY were all pretty bad for a long time until basically recently, except the Clippers. They're still pretty bad.

I agree with Halftime on this one; both on how the owners are the ones failing and that the Heat were at one point terrible. :lol:

Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO

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Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO

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Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO

Stuffed_Monkey

But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? X360PS3AMD05

But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? X360PS3AMD05

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? -Halftime-

But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? X360PS3AMD05

When's the last time we've seen the Royals, Orioles, Brewers, or Athletics make the World Series? I think it's been decades or never for all of them.

Yeah the Brewers were really close this year..but the Hornets have been a solid team and the Kings probably should have been in the finals at least once semi-recently.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? JML897

When's the last time we've seen the Royals, Orioles, Brewers, or Athletics make the World Series? I think it's been decades or never for all of them.

Yeah the Brewers were really close this year..but the Hornets have been a solid team and the Kings probably should have been in the finals at least once semi-recently.

Bulls vs Lakers better not be at the same time as Bears vs Packers :(

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/chi/schedule?view=calendar&season=2011&m=12

The schedule is subject to change

^Judging by the time it looks like Bulls/Lakers would be ending just as Bears/Packers is getting ready for kickoff.

It'll be an awesome day to be a Chicago sports fan (or an awful day I guess if they lose both games).

Bulls vs Lakers better not be at the same time as Bears vs Packers :(

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/chi/schedule?view=calendar&season=2011&m=12

The schedule is subject to change

FireEmblem_Man

With Dwight Howard being one of my favorite players... I really wish he doesn't pull a Shaq and stays in Orlando. He could try to get someone(Paul or WIlliams) to come to him instead of him having to go somewhere else.

I really hate how all the superstars are trying to form "Super Teams" now. Thanks Allen, Garrnett, and Pierce :|sergemyster8

Super teams will kill the NBA. Master_Live

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Super teams will kill the NBA. No_Hablo_Ingles

I don't get it. There are always like 4 or 5 teams that completely dominate the league.

Throughout history most championships have gone to either the Lakers, Celtics or Bulls. Underdog teams are almost none existent since in a 7-game series the better team always pulls through.

I could see why you would get mad if Danny Granger was leaving your Pacers to go actually play for a championship, but some guys are that competitive, they aren't satisfied with just the salary.

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]Super teams will kill the NBA. Major_Snake

Speaking of Denver, has everyone here seen how screwed they are this year?

Here's a list of players who are stuck overseas this year. Basically they signed contracts that didn't have any opt-out clauses so they have to stay there. The list is mostly bench players but the Nuggets lost Wilson Chandler, JR Smith, and Kenyon Martin. Aaron Brooks is stuck too. The Chinese season ends in March but by then the Nuggets might be in too big of a hole.

If you're a player as good as Wilson Chandler how do you not make sure there's an opt-out clause? :?

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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] Yeah, because ratings haven't been going up since Boston, Knicks, etc. became relevant again.JML897

Speaking of Denver, has everyone here seen how screwed they are this year?

Here's a list of players who are stuck overseas this year. Basically they signed contracts that didn't have any opt-out clauses so they have to stay there. The list is mostly bench players but the Nuggets lost Wilson Chandler, JR Smith, and Kenyon Martin. Aaron Brooks is stuck too. The Chinese season ends in March but by then the Nuggets might be in too big of a hole.

If you're a player as good as Wilson Chandler how do you not make sure there's an opt-out clause? :?

Guess they saw no hope :lol:

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]Super teams will kill the NBA. Major_Snake

Honestly, LeBron could have stayed in Cleveland for his entire career, and wanna know what would have happened? He would have been mentioned with: Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley on the list of greatest players ever without a ring.

Yeah but at least they were competitive... nowadays it's a sure thing that either LA, Dallas, Chicago, Boston, or Miami will win the NBA title this next year, the year after that and the year after that. Everybody else is just a stepping stone.

"The Basketball season starts on Christmas Day, what are your thoughts for this season and lockout?"

For me it's all about how much Kobe has left and how long he can continue to hang with the young stars. Also what direction Mike Brown will take the Lakers, can he get them to play defense and ultimately compete for another title, will D. Fisher give it up or accept a lesser role...etc.

Also interested in what the Heat, Knicks, Bulls and Thunder will do (ok, home town Pacers too), the Chris Paul and D. Howard situations and the season in general.

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Super teams will kill the NBA. No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]Super teams will kill the NBA. Master_Live

Sucks for fans in those markets but personally I wouldn't mind getting rid of a couple teams. gg Bobcats

I'm just excited to see Metta World Peace play. I've never seen this player in action before and I've heard very good things. :)

And let's get this stickied for the new season. I'm just intrigued about Boston and Rondo.Yagr_Zero

Thank you sir for your support :)

Hopefully the Bulls can go all the way this year.

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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] Yeah, because ratings haven't been going up since Boston, Knicks, etc. became relevant again.No_Hablo_Ingles

Honestly, LeBron could have stayed in Cleveland for his entire career, and wanna know what would have happened? He would have been mentioned with: Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley on the list of greatest players ever without a ring.

THe Knicks are relevant? When did this happen?X360PS3AMD05