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I don't think he isn't good anymore. He's better than some quarterbacks, especially ones that make it to the Superbowl and than prove how much they really do suck *cough* Grossman *cough*.nygiants1080Yeah Favre could do some damage if he had a team like the Bears. I love Brett I hope he doesnt retire until he truly shows that he can't play in the NFL anymore.
they were 8-8 with no pass defense and lil running game. there an outside linebacker and a safety away from the nfc championship. no lie.
ps. sounds to me like the thread creator and probly the moderator here are just scared bears fans.
When a player (such as Favre) contemplates retirement 3 years in a row, practically holds the team hostage once, and comes back the 3rd time primarily because of records, and not because he wants his team to win, he needs to be done. The Packers won the 8th game because the Bears had nothing to play for (when Rex Grossman admits looking past you, that says something). Oh yeah, when you cry on TV about how much joy you're experiencing and ramble for 5 minutes about how hard it is, and you DIDN'T JUST WIN THE SUPER BOWL, you need to retire and let Aaron Rodgers earn his salary.aaron rodgers still sucks. nothing has changed.
I respect the man, but you can't find out whether Aaron Rodgers was a worthwhile investment if the guy in front of him essentially doesn't allow him to play.
VERS1ON
they were 8-8 with no pass defense and lil running game. there an outside linebacker and a safety away from the nfc championship. no lie.
ps. sounds to me like the thread creator and probly the moderator here are just scared bears fans.
Darth-Mac10
You do realize the packers had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this year, right?
And they won the last game because the bears had clinched homefield advantage. They didnt try. They didnt care.
Favre can do what he wants, but he IS holding the team back. You have to give rodgers at least 2 years of evaluation. What happens if the packers are a good team by then, but he stinks?
The packers could go either way. But to say they could make a nfc championship is laughable.
[QUOTE="Darth-Mac10"]they were 8-8 with no pass defense and lil running game. there an outside linebacker and a safety away from the nfc championship. no lie.
ps. sounds to me like the thread creator and probly the moderator here are just scared bears fans.
raghavan
You do realize the packers had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this year, right?
And they won the last game because the bears had clinched homefield advantage. They didnt try. They didnt care.
Favre can do what he wants, but he IS holding the team back. You have to give rodgers at least 2 years of evaluation. What happens if the packers are a good team by then, but he stinks?
The packers could go either way. But to say they could make a nfc championship is laughable.
[QUOTE="raghavan"][QUOTE="Darth-Mac10"]they were 8-8 with no pass defense and lil running game. there an outside linebacker and a safety away from the nfc championship. no lie.
ps. sounds to me like the thread creator and probly the moderator here are just scared bears fans.
Ngamer05
You do realize the packers had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this year, right?
And they won the last game because the bears had clinched homefield advantage. They didnt try. They didnt care.
Favre can do what he wants, but he IS holding the team back. You have to give rodgers at least 2 years of evaluation. What happens if the packers are a good team by then, but he stinks?
The packers could go either way. But to say they could make a nfc championship is laughable.
Grossman was actually good for many games. Oh yeah, they also have a great D and a great special teams. The packers gave up a lot of points (i think 2nd most) and their ST is nothing special.
When a player (such as Favre) contemplates retirement 3 years in a row, practically holds the team hostage once, and comes back the 3rd time primarily because of records, and not because he wants his team to win, he needs to be done. The Packers won the 8th game because the Bears had nothing to play for (when Rex Grossman admits looking past you, that says something). Oh yeah, when you cry on TV about how much joy you're experiencing and ramble for 5 minutes about how hard it is, and you DIDN'T JUST WIN THE SUPER BOWL, you need to retire and let Aaron Rodgers earn his salary.
I respect the man, but you can't find out whether Aaron Rodgers was a worthwhile investment if the guy in front of him essentially doesn't allow him to play.
VERS1ON
Hes not that good anymore....he has no chance of winning this year, hes acutally hurting the team by staying around instead of just letting the franchise move to the furture and start Aaron Rodgers.....
hes just hanging around now because he cant let go...and he wants some records....
he used to be good...but some people have to let it go...he has plenty of money so thats not the issue...so i think its just time for him to call it quits and just stay home in his bayou going fishing and chopping wood or something...
ChipmunkDeluxe
If you think Brett Favre can't play anymore your smoking crack. The guy is still one of the best QB's in the game. Whether he can carry a team on his back like he used to?Thats a different story. he can still play, but he should playing for another team that isn't hungry for leadership.InterpolWilco
That's definitely a statement I agree with. The only reason that I say he needs to retire instead of going to another team is the fact that the man himself only talks about retirement.
To the people who say Rodgers sucks, you have NO reasonable amount of NFL experience to base that on. Either that or you say he sucked in college. I don't remember anything spectacular about Tom Brady's college career. But all of a sudden, he's supposedly one of the top 10 QB's of all time with only six full seasons starting. If Drew Bledsoe didn't get injured in 2001, who knows what Tom Brady would be, or where he would be. He got a legit chance, and he made the most of it. Rodgers hasn't even gotten a legitimate shot at leading the team, because of Favre, and he apparently sucks.
Question: When's the last season that Brett Favre hasn't thrown at least 15 INT's? Answer: 1996. Tom Brady? Every season, including 2002 when he had over 600 attempts. Peyton Manning has thrown 15+ INTs in a season since 2002. In fact, Manning threw 2 less INTs in 20 games this season than Favre did in 16 games.
Is Favre horrible? No. Is he declining? Yes, and has been for years. Does he currently give the Packers the best chance to win a division right now, yes, considering it's the worst division in the league. It's like when Joe Montana went to the Chiefs - he was still a good player, but it's not like I expected them to win a Super Bowl. Sorry, but at this point, Favre can't win a Super Bowl with the Pack - he needs to mentor Rodgers, stop thinking about himself, and give back to the team and city that has given him so much.Â
When a player (such as Favre) contemplates retirement 3 years in a row, practically holds the team hostage once, and comes back the 3rd time primarily because of records, and not because he wants his team to win, he needs to be done. The Packers won the 8th game because the Bears had nothing to play for (when Rex Grossman admits looking past you, that says something). Oh yeah, when you cry on TV about how much joy you're experiencing and ramble for 5 minutes about how hard it is, and you DIDN'T JUST WIN THE SUPER BOWL, you need to retire and let Aaron Rodgers earn his salary.that last line is well put, I can't wait for PS3 to have a bigger game library cuz i'm definately more of a sony person. Hell, after 360 came out my xbox was untouched for a year, and right now i'm still playin ps2 games (FFXII and Bully). the only good games and there are only like 3 for the 360 are all shooters. boring. almost a waste of money. Farve should retired and let Rodgers start, it's kind of selfish just to play one more year just for records sake but at the same time Favre is coming of the end of the era of QBs, i mean hes from the same era as the likes of jim kelly and steve young! I dunno, I respect him.
I respect the man, but you can't find out whether Aaron Rodgers was a worthwhile investment if the guy in front of him essentially doesn't allow him to play.
VERS1ON
[QUOTE="InterpolWilco"]If you think Brett Favre can't play anymore your smoking crack. The guy is still one of the best QB's in the game. Whether he can carry a team on his back like he used to?Thats a different story. he can still play, but he should playing for another team that isn't hungry for leadership.VERS1ON
That's definitely a statement I agree with. The only reason that I say he needs to retire instead of going to another team is the fact that the man himself only talks about retirement.
To the people who say Rodgers sucks, you have NO reasonable amount of NFL experience to base that on. Either that or you say he sucked in college. I don't remember anything spectacular about Tom Brady's college career. But all of a sudden, he's supposedly one of the top 10 QB's of all time with only six full seasons starting. If Drew Bledsoe didn't get injured in 2001, who knows what Tom Brady would be, or where he would be. He got a legit chance, and he made the most of it. Rodgers hasn't even gotten a legitimate shot at leading the team, because of Favre, and he apparently sucks.
Question: When's the last season that Brett Favre hasn't thrown at least 15 INT's? Answer: 1996. Tom Brady? Every season, including 2002 when he had over 600 attempts. Peyton Manning has thrown 15+ INTs in a season since 2002. In fact, Manning threw 2 less INTs in 20 games this season than Favre did in 16 games.
Is Favre horrible? No. Is he declining? Yes, and has been for years. Does he currently give the Packers the best chance to win a division right now, yes, considering it's the worst division in the league. It's like when Joe Montana went to the Chiefs - he was still a good player, but it's not like I expected them to win a Super Bowl. Sorry, but at this point, Favre can't win a Super Bowl with the Pack - he needs to mentor Rodgers, stop thinking about himself, and give back to the team and city that has given him so much.
LMAO, Yeah Brady Sucks too.
Holy ****!!!
Cant believe this topic's bumped...
Im gonna come out right now and say Ive been owned...considering im the TC :lol:
Tony-Sinclair
Ban dodging? :o
[QUOTE="Tony-Sinclair"]Holy ****!!!
Cant believe this topic's bumped...
Im gonna come out right now and say Ive been owned...considering im the TC :lol:
SaintBlaze
Ban dodging? :o
OH NOEZ! :shock:
[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"][QUOTE="Tony-Sinclair"]Holy ****!!!
Cant believe this topic's bumped...
Im gonna come out right now and say Ive been owned...considering im the TC :lol:
Tony-Sinclair
Ban dodging? :o
OH NOEZ! :shock:
NO WAYZ!!!111 :shock::o
[QUOTE="Tony-Sinclair"][QUOTE="SaintBlaze"][QUOTE="Tony-Sinclair"]Holy ****!!!
Cant believe this topic's bumped...
Im gonna come out right now and say Ive been owned...considering im the TC :lol:
SaintBlaze
Ban dodging? :o
OH NOEZ! :shock:
NO WAYZ!!!111 :shock::o
yeah im prob gonna get banned again but it was worth it...just too much of a coincidence that this topic was brought up :lol:
[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"][QUOTE="Tony-Sinclair"][QUOTE="SaintBlaze"][QUOTE="Tony-Sinclair"]Holy ****!!!
Cant believe this topic's bumped...
Im gonna come out right now and say Ive been owned...considering im the TC :lol:
Tony-Sinclair
Ban dodging? :o
OH NOEZ! :shock:
NO WAYZ!!!111 :shock::o
yeah im prob gonna get banned again but it was worth it...just too much of a coincidence that this topic was brought up :lol:
Well I think you could have gotten away with it if you didn't mention that you were the TC. :lol:
Well I think you could have gotten away with it if you didn't mention that you were the TC. :lol:
SaintBlaze
yeah i knew that...ive been banned a thousand times...i dont care any more....takes 5 seconds to make a new account
Plus i prob deserve a ban just because I made the thread :lol:
[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]Well I think you could have gotten away with it if you didn't mention that you were the TC. :lol:
Tony-Sinclair
yeah i knew that...ive been banned a thousand times...i dont care any more....takes 5 seconds to make a new account
Plus i prob deserve a ban just because I made the thread :lol:
So true. :lol:
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