oh, I got an idea for a sonic & mario fighting game!

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#1 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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imagine sonic battle, but with 3-d graphics and on the DS. the story would involve sonics world and marios world merging together (all part of eggmans plan). sonic and mario confuse each other for the enemy, and begin fighting each other for control over the chaos emeralds.

gameplay features would include:

-4 player wi-fi battles

-full customization of moves (imagine what you do with emerl, but for all the characters)

-100% destructible environments (trees and bushes catch on fire, walls can be destroyed, craters can appear in the ground if a character gets bodyslammed)

-survival mode. you pick a character and must survive against endless hordes of various sonic and mario enemies, as well as a mix of sonic and mario characters

what do you think?

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I wouldn't buy it.
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well im sure alot of people would. thats the thing about sonic fanboys, no matter how much a sonic game sucks, theyll buy it anyway and defend it no matter the cost.

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#4 kbaily
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There's already a game where Mario and Sonic fight each other like that. It's called Smash Bros. Brawl.

Think about it, some of the environments in Brawl are destructable. Mash up the floor in Green Hills zone enough and it crumbles. Luigi's Mansion would crumble after enough pounding....

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well im sure alot of people would. thats the thing about sonic fanboys, no matter how much a sonic game sucks, theyll buy it anyway and defend it no matter the cost.

Neo-ganon

then I guess I'm not a fanboy then because I wouldn't buy it. I didn't buy Brawl (which is like kbaily said already very similar to what you're describing), I didn't get the olympic game and don't plan to get the winter olympic one. I don't plan to get black knight nor to I ever plan to get any of the riders games. I never bought Shadow (f*** that game). I didn't buy the sega tennis game. I haven't bought any Sonic collections or genesis collections because I have the good ones ON genesis.

back to the topic though, I wouldn't buy it and it sounds like it's too much for the ds to handle. 

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well im sure alot of people would. thats the thing about sonic fanboys, no matter how much a sonic game sucks, theyll buy it anyway and defend it no matter the cost.

Neo-ganon

Speak for yourself. I didn't buy Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity mainly because it didn't improve much on the formula and had no online play. Most of the modern games I played, I either rented or waited for a major price drop. Not every Sonic fan is some drooling idiot who buys any piece of shlock with Sonic's face on it. I am not rushing out to buy Black Knight mainly because it seems really short and there are other games I'm playing right now.

Don't generalize all Sonic fans. Some of us have half a brain and don't live in some parallel universe and act like every crappy game is good. Out of curiosity I recently got a really cheap used copy of Sonic Next Gen and that game is awful. Even if you can get past the lame story, annoying friends and tedious fetch quests, the game had bugs out the ass that were impossible to ignore.

Even Shadow's game I could overlook the ridiclous attempts to be "edgy" if I hadn't had to deal with the tedium of having to circle the stages endlessly trying to finish those stupid hero/dark missions.

I hate people that assume all Sonic fans are drooling morons who are either furries or overly obsessed that they have no proper perception of reality and are incapable of being objective. One of the things Sonicspot prides itself in is that we're NOT the sort of fans who go around acting like Sega can do no wrong and that every modern game is the best game EVARRR!! Look at our review archive.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/read_article.php?topic_id=25038774&union_id=4363

We hate that Sega half-asses some games and add in stupid gimmicks that don't add anything to the gameplay (or worse hinder it). We know that the last few Sonic games aren't as good as they could be. So don't immediately assume that because we're Sonic fans, that we're raving morons who don't know how to be objective.

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I never said all sonic fanboys are morons dude. I only meant that a majority of sonic fans will buy anything with sonic printed on the title. which is generally true as nearly every sonic fanboy/fangirl i have encountered ever will buy a bad sonic game and defend it no matter what and flame those who criticize it. And im not trying to generalize anyone. keep in mind im a sonic fan as well, but im one of the rational ones who knows when a sonic game is bad or not.

another point id like to bring up is that this idea sounds like ssbb. not true. unlike ssbb, this game actually has a story other than beat the crap out of the other characters (yes i know about subspace emmissary. im not referring to that mode of the game). but kb, all things aside, what do you think of this idea?

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not trying to sound like a d-bag or anything but, your main differentiating point between your idea and Brawl is that your game has a story? The OP basically describes the gameplay itself as a beat em up. I don't think that has nearly enough difference for anyone to look at it and NOT think it's a Brawl clone. Just sayin'
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well did ssbb have a story? seriously i want to know. because other that subspace emissary there was no story to speak of.
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regardless of if it did or didn't, the point I was trying to make was that the presence of a story is not enough to make your game idea seem original imo.
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then tell me, what would make it original then?
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if it wasn't a brawler?
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if it wasn't a brawler?whoozwah

So then it would just be cloning Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur and every other 2D fighter on the market.

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I'd buy it if there was platforming involved, perhaps between the fights.

Which reminds me....

www.flashportal.com/movies/Super%20Mario%20bros%20Z%20episode%205.html

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what will be different from those games...  there been fighting games for more then 30 years now, it's too easy to make a fighting game with everything destructible... everyone would think it's boring... well most players.

you'll need to research something new... the ideas can be cloned easliy... hell even I created a map with a green hill theme for ut3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r4dqKwl1_8

I could get the mario and sonic skins already out and have a destructive enivorment if I wanted too... you could start right now, get a team and start planning out what you'll make out of it and who will play this game. Making games is tough you know.

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This is a bit off topic, but I always pondered what it would be like to have a DS Smash Bros game.
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[QUOTE="whoozwah"]if it wasn't a brawler?kbaily

So then it would just be cloning Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur and every other 2D fighter on the market.

Soul Calibur is not 2D.

Sonic and Mario don't need to be in another fighting game. 

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but wouldnt you want to see sonic and mario finally meet face to face and fight each other? ssbb does not count.
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no. not really.
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well im sure alot of people have. and im sure if there is ever such a game like this, it will sell well.
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#21 kbaily
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what will be different from those games... there been fighting games for more then 30 years now, it's too easy to make a fighting game with everything destructible... everyone would think it's boring... well most players.

you'll need to research something new... the ideas can be cloned easliy... hell even I created a map with a green hill theme for ut3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r4dqKwl1_8

I could get the mario and sonic skins already out and have a destructive enivorment if I wanted too... you could start right now, get a team and start planning out what you'll make out of it and who will play this game. Making games is tough you know.

rikhan_z

Your UT3 Sonic stage was very nice. I'm sure if I look around we could find Sonic-esque stages for Little Big Planet

And I did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUtbAELIG4

I like Sackboy with cat ears. They should've tried to paint him blue. Of course, Sacky isn't as fast as Sonic so there's not as many loops and such.