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#1 SuperSonicx2005
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I been a huge Sonic Fan for years and also I hope are Union is doing good do you guys think Sonic The Hedgehog on Xbox 360 should though be on Xbox Live

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That was the origianl plan, but Sega had to cut it due to the rush to get it out for november
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That was the origianl plan, but Sega had to cut it due to the rush to get it out for novembersonicphc


and that's what happens when you rush heavily hyped games
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I wouldn't have want it to be delayed as long as Twilight Princess was, though, either.
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[QUOTE="sonicphc"]That was the origianl plan, but Sega had to cut it due to the rush to get it out for novemberPlatyphyllum


and that's what happens when you rush heavily hyped games

Sonic Adventure was rushed. That's why it's full of glitches. At least they fixed the graphics and some other stuff in SADX.

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But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?
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a little off topic, but maybe Sega should release a new patch on live that fixes all the glitches in Sonic 06, kind of like what they did for Oblivion or is it just a lost cause.
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you're right. They SHOULD. (
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But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?sonicphc

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.

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a little off topic, but maybe Sega should release a new patch on live that fixes all the glitches in Sonic 06, kind of like what they did for Oblivion or is it just a lost cause.SuperSonic223

Yes, that'd be great!

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[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?DoctorEggman

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?
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[QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?Platyphyllum

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?
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[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?DoctorEggman

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.

Agreed.
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[QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?Platyphyllum

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yeah SADX looks better than the orginal, but not really that much better unless you were using the progressive scan feature. You wouldn't really notice the graphic enhancements until you went back and played it on DC. You might notice that the framerates are better right away though. The same goes for SA2 and SA2 Battle.
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[QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?SuperSonic223

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yeah SADX looks better than the orginal, but not really that much better unless you were using the progressive scan feature. You wouldn't really notice the graphic enhancements until you went back and played it on DC. You might notice that the framerates are better right away though. The same goes for SA2 and SA2 Battle.

Yeah, when I stopped playing SA and played SADX, the first things I noticed were the good graphics and better framerate. Also the water looks really nice, now.
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[QUOTE="SuperSonic223"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?DoctorEggman

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yeah SADX looks better than the orginal, but not really that much better unless you were using the progressive scan feature. You wouldn't really notice the graphic enhancements until you went back and played it on DC. You might notice that the framerates are better right away though. The same goes for SA2 and SA2 Battle.

Yeah, when I stopped playing SA and played SADX, the first things I noticed were the good graphics and better framerate. Also the water looks really nice, now.

Yea it does. It actually looks more like....dare I saw it....Water.
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[QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="SuperSonic223"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?Greatness86

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yeah SADX looks better than the orginal, but not really that much better unless you were using the progressive scan feature. You wouldn't really notice the graphic enhancements until you went back and played it on DC. You might notice that the framerates are better right away though. The same goes for SA2 and SA2 Battle.

Yeah, when I stopped playing SA and played SADX, the first things I noticed were the good graphics and better framerate. Also the water looks really nice, now.

Yea it does. It actually looks more like....dare I saw it....Water.

Yes, rather than moving paper or a poorly done GIF. LOL! :lol:

Also, I like how you can skip cutscenes with the "START" button. That way I can replay through a story and skip the boring parts.

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[QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?DoctorEggman

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.
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[QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?Platyphyllum

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.

  Good for you! :)
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[QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?DoctorEggman

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.

Good for you! :)



OBJECTION! I see a contradiction in your statement. How can that possibly be "good for me"? If I don't have the original SA I cannot compare it with SADX, not to mention I also never had a Dreamcast which is supposedly a very good console. I see nothing "good" about never owning SA during it's time considering how it was considered "real" at that time.
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[QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?Platyphyllum

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.

Good for you! :)



OBJECTION! I see a contradiction in your statement. How can that possibly be "good for me"? If I don't have the original SA I cannot compare it with SADX, not to mention I also never had a Dreamcast which is supposedly a very good console. I see nothing "good" about never owning SA during it's time considering how it was considered "real" at that time.

Dreamcast isn't a "very good console" like your unreliable sources say. GameCube is better than Dreamcast. It's better to wait for SA to arrive on GameCube than to waste time and money on the original SA. You can even call on Mario to testify to this fact. (Sorry, I don't play Phoenix Wright, so I don't know how to respond properly :P )
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[QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?DoctorEggman

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.

Good for you! :)



OBJECTION! I see a contradiction in your statement. How can that possibly be "good for me"? If I don't have the original SA I cannot compare it with SADX, not to mention I also never had a Dreamcast which is supposedly a very good console. I see nothing "good" about never owning SA during it's time considering how it was considered "real" at that time.

Dreamcast isn't a "very good console" like your unreliable sources say. GameCube is better than Dreamcast. It's better to wait for SA to arrive on GameCube than to waste time and money on the original SA. You can even call on Mario to testify to this fact. (Sorry, I don't play Phoenix Wright, so I don't know how to respond properly :P )



Hmm...interesting, in what ways is the Dreamcast not a good console.
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[QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?Platyphyllum

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.

Good for you! :)



OBJECTION! I see a contradiction in your statement. How can that possibly be "good for me"? If I don't have the original SA I cannot compare it with SADX, not to mention I also never had a Dreamcast which is supposedly a very good console. I see nothing "good" about never owning SA during it's time considering how it was considered "real" at that time.

Dreamcast isn't a "very good console" like your unreliable sources say. GameCube is better than Dreamcast. It's better to wait for SA to arrive on GameCube than to waste time and money on the original SA. You can even call on Mario to testify to this fact. (Sorry, I don't play Phoenix Wright, so I don't know how to respond properly :P )



Hmm...interesting, in what ways is the Dreamcast not a good console.

It's slow to load games, it's noisy, and it has games with worse graphics.
(BTW: SADX take noticably less time to load. :P )

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[QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?DoctorEggman

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.

Good for you! :)



OBJECTION! I see a contradiction in your statement. How can that possibly be "good for me"? If I don't have the original SA I cannot compare it with SADX, not to mention I also never had a Dreamcast which is supposedly a very good console. I see nothing "good" about never owning SA during it's time considering how it was considered "real" at that time.

Dreamcast isn't a "very good console" like your unreliable sources say. GameCube is better than Dreamcast. It's better to wait for SA to arrive on GameCube than to waste time and money on the original SA. You can even call on Mario to testify to this fact. (Sorry, I don't play Phoenix Wright, so I don't know how to respond properly :P )



Hmm...interesting, in what ways is the Dreamcast not a good console.

It's slow to load games, it's noisy, and it has games with worse graphics.
(BTW: SADX take noticably less time to load. :P )



I see. There is nothing wrong with your testimony.
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[QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"][QUOTE="Platyphyllum"][QUOTE="DoctorEggman"]

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]But why bother when you own the original and your DC still works?Platyphyllum

Because it's dirt-cheap and it's worth the money. The original looks plain ugly and the framerate is pretty bad. You won't understand untill you own it. But since you consider good graphical enhancement, and improved framerate to be incredibly minor changes, then you shouldn't bother. Sonic actually looks cool on SADX, but on SA, he looks like a little kid with lots of baby fat.



Really?

Yes. Do you have SA or SADX?



May I make a statement? Yes? Good. In fact, I just so happen to own...SADX! But I never played the original SA.

Good for you! :)



OBJECTION! I see a contradiction in your statement. How can that possibly be "good for me"? If I don't have the original SA I cannot compare it with SADX, not to mention I also never had a Dreamcast which is supposedly a very good console. I see nothing "good" about never owning SA during it's time considering how it was considered "real" at that time.

Dreamcast isn't a "very good console" like your unreliable sources say. GameCube is better than Dreamcast. It's better to wait for SA to arrive on GameCube than to waste time and money on the original SA. You can even call on Mario to testify to this fact. (Sorry, I don't play Phoenix Wright, so I don't know how to respond properly :P )



Hmm...interesting, in what ways is the Dreamcast not a good console.

It's slow to load games, it's noisy, and it has games with worse graphics.
(BTW: SADX take noticably less time to load. :P )



I see. There is nothing wrong with your testimony.

Darn right. :)
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Okay, first of all, STOP BLOCK QUOTING. Drives me crazy. If you're responding to the post right before yours, don't quote. If you're responding to a post that wasn't right before yours, THEN quote. Got that? Good. :)

And back on topic...

OBJECTION! Presenting an opinion of the quality of a system as evidence is not valid as an opinion cannot be a fact, and therefore is deemed speculation. I ask that it be stricken from the record.

Oh, and of course the GC is a better system than the DC. It came out in a later generation of consoles. However, a port is a port, and the improvements and additions on a port can never outweigh the original structure, and thusly does not justify a repurchase unless the entire underlying structure is changed (which I really hopes happens with Sonic PS3, for Sonic Team's sake).

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Okay, first of all, STOP BLOCK QUOTING. Drives me crazy. If you're responding to the post right before yours, don't quote. If you're responding to a post that wasn't right before yours, THEN quote. Got that? Good. :)

And back on topic...

OBJECTION! Presenting an opinion of the quality of a system as evidence is not valid as an opinion cannot be a fact, and therefore is deemed speculation. I ask that it be stricken from the record.

Oh, and of course the GC is a better system than the DC. It came out in a later generation of consoles. However, a port is a port, and the improvements and additions on a port can never outweigh the original structure, and thusly does not justify a repurchase unless the entire underlying structure is changed (which I really hopes happens with Sonic PS3, for Sonic Team's sake).

sonicphc


Well, yeah, you are correct. Just like Von Karma used to say:

"trusting, caring? Bah! Those are simply witty opinions unacceptable in court!, what we need are cold, hard, facts!"

But then again DoctorEggman sorta was correct, the Dreamcast probably does load slower and is a bit more buggy but like you said sonicphc, GC was released later meaning the GC would most likely be a more technically advanced console.
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But then again DoctorEggman sorta was correct, the Dreamcast probably does load slower and is a bit more buggy but like you said sonicphc, GC was released later meaning the GC would most likely be a more technically advanced console.
Platyphyllum

It does load significantly more slowly. It is a proven fact.

OBJECTION! Presenting an opinion of the quality of a system as evidence is not valid as an opinion cannot be a fact, and therefore is deemed speculation. I ask that it be stricken from the record.

sonicphc

It is fact. GC is more powerful, and is thus better.

Oh, and of course the GC is a better system than the DC. It came out in a later generation of consoles. However, a port is a port, and the improvements and additions on a port can never outweigh the original structure, and thusly does not justify a repurchase unless the entire underlying structure is changed (which I really hopes happens with Sonic PS3, for Sonic Team's sake).

sonicphc

True, but it can be worth the money if the price is very low (which it is nowdays). Especially if the improvements are very noticable.

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Wow, I didn't know this was a court case.
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#30 209745241664696408198013673166
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Yeah, Platy likes to make everything into a court case, so I play along.
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#31 Platyphyllum
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court cases are fun
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#32 reaperclone1
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That would be cool to have sonic on xbox live or as I wil call it sonic live8)
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#33 209745241664696408198013673166
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Yeah, they are doing that with Sonic1, I think.