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Poll Would you support a US invasion of Iran and why? (66 votes)

Yes 8%
No 92%

My job requires me to analyse some countries in the Middle East and Iran is one of them.

After years of research, I am somewhat sympathetic to the Iranians. Sanctions has caused a lot of human misery for Iranians (little access to foreign medicine for one, no chemotherapy if you get cancer).

I believe Iran probably wants to make a nuclear weapon but they will never use it because they know every other country will isolate and will join together to take down the regime if they did.

They want a nuke (but they are decades away from being able to make one).

What is your opinion and why.

(Please no insults or derogatory comments, think about this on a human level, the civilians who just want food on the table, a roof over their heads and someone to cuddle next to at night).

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#1  Edited By Master_Live
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No I wouldn't. If they were about to get a nuclear weapon then maybe some countries should go in, but how about we let some of our European friends take the lead, you know, since they bitch so much. A coalition of the willing led by Spain, Italy and Portugal.

Stay out of Iran.

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#2 horgen  Moderator
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Why would Iran with nukes warrant a war?

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The only countries we leave alone have nukes. The US is it's own worst enemy in terms of nuclear proliferation. The industrial military complex makes the entire world less safe.

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#4 Master_Live
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@horgen said:

Why would Iran with nukes warrant a war?

Nuclear proliferation warrants a war. The club is set and nobody else is getting in.

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#5 Baconstrip78
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Invade and then what? Cause ousting current unfriendly but stable regimes has always led to more stability and peace in previous wars with middle eastern countries...

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#6 nintendoboy16
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One simple answer in a variety of ways...

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#7 Maroxad
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No.

Instead, support Iranian youth, keep winning their hearts and minds.

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#8 Gaming-Planet
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Nah, I like Iran.

They're only a threat to Israel, although not really either. Israel has nukes.

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#9 DEVILinIRON
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I don't think it would be a good idea. Have you seen Iran's all-female ninja warriors squad??? But no seriously, I truly believe it's a bad idea.

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No, not an another war.

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#11  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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@Master_Live: Nobody in Europe is in favour of military intervention in Iran as far as I'm aware, so good luck with that.

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#12 HoolaHoopMan
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@Master_Live said:
@horgen said:

Why would Iran with nukes warrant a war?

Nuclear proliferation warrants a war. The club is set and nobody else is getting in.

If Iran obtained them Saudi Arabia would be close to follow.

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#13 LJS9502_basic
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Nope. War doesn't solve a thing really.

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#14 jeezers
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No stupid idea, nothing to gain

unless they attack the US on our land im against it, but I doubt they would ever try that, we would wipe them off the plant

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#15 N64DD
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@LJS9502_basic: It stopped the holocaust.

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#16  Edited By plageus900
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No.

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#17 Jacanuk
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No and more No

Also a Iran with nuclear weapons would be just that insane so if a war were to come against them, they would push the button faster than you can say "end of the world"

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#18 VagrantSnow
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Still don't fully understand the American angst against Iran to be honest. Their government ain't the most pleasant but we and the US deal with a lot worse governments. Nothing against their people who seem to largely just want to get on with their lives.

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#19 rmpumper
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The fact that Pompeo announced about impending attacks on US forces by Iran and then conveniently sent some ships a bit closer makes me think that you fuckers are gonna try to pull another Gulf of Tonkin "incident", after all, right wingers were jizzing about going to war with Iran for decades now.

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#20 tenaka2
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Starting a war because of an idiot presidents personal vendetta seems very foolish to me.

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Yes invade then cause further instability in the area let it spread to Europe and then complain that Europe doesn't spend enough money with NATO.

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#22  Edited By grizzlykuma
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Heres a list of countries with nukes.

1. Untied states, 6,450 warheads

2. Russia, 6,490 warheads

3 UK, 215 warheads

4. France, 300

5. China, 280

6. India, 140

7. Pakistan, 150

8. North Korea, 20

9. Israel, 80

We can start with invading the country in the top and then work our way down the list. the maniacs in the top as done over 1,000 of warhead test and is the only nation that has actually been using them towards civilians. the world should stop the real terrorist and invade the US, do you have my support?

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#23  Edited By sakaiXx
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We already indirectly killing Iranians by sanctions against them that crippled their economy and money system. Any Iran invasion would just produce more terrorist, many whom is very educated and already hated Americans and western ideologies. Not to mention none of the Middle East countries that were invaded ever recovered, its new breeding ground for extreme ideology and propaganda. Another thing is, Europeans will suffer more.

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@vagrantsnow: Glad you asked. In short and brief, there was once a Shah of Iran (Kinda like a King). He was very pro-west, he was even good friends with the Israelis. But there was also a exiled Ayatollah who wanted to return back to Iran. The Ayatollah released many cassette tapes and Iranians listened and wanted him back. He came back and the Shah left Iran. Then, Iranians stormed the US embassy and took Americans hostage (they were spies and wanted the Shah to return).

Since Iranians invaded the embassy, (kinda equivalent to invading US soil since it’s an embassy).

So America is unhappy about that event that took place in 1979.

That’s the beef!

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#25 LJS9502_basic
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@grizzlykuma said:
the world should stop the real terrorist and invade the US, do you have my support?

Come on over and try it..............I can guarantee it won't end well for you though. But hey.........keep your word and grow a pair.

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@Master_Live said:

No I wouldn't. If they were about to get a nuclear weapon then maybe some countries should go in, but how about we let some of our European friends take the lead, you know, since they bitch so much. A coalition of the willing led by Spain, Italy and Portugal.

Stay out of Iran.

As far as I can see, it's only your President that is bitching about Iran. European countries are struggling to cope with the effects of US interventions in the Middle East, and really have no interest in invading Iran.....apart from that, Spain, Italy and Portugal couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery never mind an invasion of Iran.

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It would be nice if America stopped to start wars.

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#28 comp_atkins
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no

-sigh-

can we go a week without invading somewhere?

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@Master_Live said:
@horgen said:

Why would Iran with nukes warrant a war?

Nuclear proliferation warrants a war. The club is set and nobody else is getting in.

Just BS. Invade if they mean to use them. Not otherwise.

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#30 daredevils2k
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No, because Trump wants to invade there and we all know Trump isn't the brightest person we should be taking advice from.

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#31 VagrantSnow
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@kadin_kai said:

@vagrantsnow: Glad you asked. In short and brief, there was once a Shah of Iran (Kinda like a King). He was very pro-west, he was even good friends with the Israelis. But there was also a exiled Ayatollah who wanted to return back to Iran. The Ayatollah released many cassette tapes and Iranians listened and wanted him back. He came back and the Shah left Iran. Then, Iranians stormed the US embassy and took Americans hostage (they were spies and wanted the Shah to return).

Since Iranians invaded the embassy, (kinda equivalent to invading US soil since it’s an embassy).

So America is unhappy about that event that took place in 1979.

That’s the beef!

Yeah, I remember all that. All just feels like America having a hissy fit, really.

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#32 Kadin_Kai
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At the time of writing 95% of respondents do not support a war or an invasion. So glad I am among like minded people!

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#33  Edited By Rockman999
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No, because as usual Dem states will be the ones footing the bill seeing as Rep states except Texas are poorer than Iraq. If MAGAstanis want war they can fight it on their own, of course that will never happen because most of them would instantly fail the physical and psychological entrance examinations.

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#34 N64DD
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@Rockman999 said:

No, because as usual Dem states will be the ones footing the bill seeing as Rep states except Texas are poorer than Iraq. If MAGAstanis want war they can fight it on their own, of course that will never happen because most of them would instantly fail the physical and psychological entrance examinations.

"i identify as a carrot, and my degree is in gender studies" will definitely pass the physical and psychological tests for sure.

LOL

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@n64dd said:
@Rockman999 said:

No, because as usual Dem states will be the ones footing the bill seeing as Rep states except Texas are poorer than Iraq. If MAGAstanis want war they can fight it on their own, of course that will never happen because most of them would instantly fail the physical and psychological entrance examinations.

"i identify as a carrot, and my degree is in gender studies" will definitely pass the physical and psychological tests for sure.

LOL

Well... According to this... It's not like those conservatives are so much better.

1 in 4 Alabamians is functionally illiterate. Functional illiteracy is the inability to read, write, or use basic math skills and technology in everyday life. It is linked with numerous social problems including crime, increased high school dropout rate, poverty, teen pregnancy and poor emotional health.

In Alabama, 3.4 million or 15% of Alabama residents are illiterate, according to 2003 statistics from the National Center for Education Statistics. More specifically, in West Alabama, an average 35% of residents are illiterate.

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#36 N64DD
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@horgen said:
@n64dd said:
@Rockman999 said:

No, because as usual Dem states will be the ones footing the bill seeing as Rep states except Texas are poorer than Iraq. If MAGAstanis want war they can fight it on their own, of course that will never happen because most of them would instantly fail the physical and psychological entrance examinations.

"i identify as a carrot, and my degree is in gender studies" will definitely pass the physical and psychological tests for sure.

LOL

Well... According to this... It's not like those conservatives are so much better.

1 in 4 Alabamians is functionally illiterate. Functional illiteracy is the inability to read, write, or use basic math skills and technology in everyday life. It is linked with numerous social problems including crime, increased high school dropout rate, poverty, teen pregnancy and poor emotional health.

In Alabama, 3.4 million or 15% of Alabama residents are illiterate, according to 2003 statistics from the National Center for Education Statistics. More specifically, in West Alabama, an average 35% of residents are illiterate.

Can you find a statistic that isn't slanted it almost 17 years old?

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#37 Rockman999
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@n64dd said:
@Rockman999 said:

No, because as usual Dem states will be the ones footing the bill seeing as Rep states except Texas are poorer than Iraq. If MAGAstanis want war they can fight it on their own, of course that will never happen because most of them would instantly fail the physical and psychological entrance examinations.

"i identify as a carrot, and my degree is in gender studies" will definitely pass the physical and psychological tests for sure.

LOL

I wouldn't know cause I got an actual useful degree. ??‍♂️

Do ya have colleges over in MAGAstan or do ya completely cap out at middle school?

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#38 horgen  Moderator
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@n64dd: Proving difficult. All I have found until now cites the same source.

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#39 Shewgenja
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/senators-demand-answers-trump-administration-iran-threat-n1005951

I pray that this starts a real conversation about restoring war powers to congress.

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#40 Audacitron
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I've been saying for years now, for over a decade that the Bush Administration needs to be held accountable for the Iraq war. Not out of pettiness or partisanship, but because the total impunity they enjoy has set a dangerous precedent. And here we are. Unfortunately the left are in disarray and distracted at every turn with increasingly trivial issues. It's not that they are necessarily wrong, but they really need to 'pick their battles' more wisely.

I've defended Trump against those who would claim him the worst president in modern times on the basis that people seem to have totally forgotten just how catastrophic and murderous the Bush administration truly was. Trump at least claimed to have opposed the Iraq war.

So I have to wonder what the hell was Trump thinking appointing a blood-thirsty maniac like John Bolton? In any functional country, a dangerous lunatic with Bolton's history would have been put behind bars years ago, or better yet, not listened to in the first place. It demonstrates a severe lack of sound judgement on the part of Trump, particularly with everything we now know.

I'm reading the current developments with increasing alarm and the worst type of deja-vu. I sincerely hope that this isn't what it looks like, and if it is, I just hope the situation can somehow be deescalated this time.

Somewhere down the line we're going to be reading obituaries for Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and the rest of the war criminals, and it will be our eternal disgrace if they lived out their final years in comfort and luxury, secluded a world away insulated from the chaos and mayhem they inflicted.

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#41 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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No. Unless we are directly attacked, i support no attack on Iran. Their biggest enemy is themself and their Russian tenders. Let them fight it out.

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#42  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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The bush and bush administration are criminals period. Going after osama bin laden was one thing but going into Iraq, afganistan, Pakistan, and many other countries, and killing millions of people without any backlash is a disgrace. They are war criminals. I'd also put Obama into that category but he didn't start any wars, just continued what bush started. Trump same story but at least he doesn't intentionally start wars like the bush maniacs.

Oddly enough it was satisfying to see Jed Bush get stomped and ridiculed by trump.

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#44 N64DD
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@Audacitron: Saddam is a dictator that tortured and starved his people and would attack any country he think he could conquer.

Saying people are war criminals just because they were in charge during the war is just your liberal bias showing.

Gas prices are getting pretty high though, we should definately start invading the middle east more. At least in time for 4th of july weekend.

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#45 mrbojangles25
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No, no more war. No more invasions.

If they want to do drone strikes and covert ops that's one thing but a full-on war is quite another.

@Maroxad said:

No.

Instead, support Iranian youth, keep winning their hearts and minds.

Pretty much this.

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#46 mrbojangles25
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@n64dd said:

we should definately start invading the middle east more. At least in time for 4th of july weekend.

For their charcoal briquettes?

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#47 Sevenizz
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I’m cautious but I want to say yes and no

A government ruled by a theocracy who mainly preaches that anyone who isn’t you are evil and should be a annihilated is extremely troublesome. This includes a lot more countries than just Iran.

Iran obtaining nukes should be dealt with though. I don’t know what the Obama administration was thinking.

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#48 N64DD
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@mrbojangles25: Get gas prices down.

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#49 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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There's been sometime since the US obliterated a nation on their quest to spread the good truth. You guys should definitely go there and teach them the ways of peace!

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Iran, Venezuela, NK, and maybe Cuba. Trump and his admins wants to wage war all around the globe.