Why has the US never had a woman as president?

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#51 LJS9502_basic
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@warmblur: This is a joke, right?

The USA started as a joke and it become real. You never know.

No no it didn't.

Anyway there are some that don't believe women should have power but I think we have more enlightened people that don't worry about sex when deciding. We shall see.

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#52  Edited By Jag85
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Even developing countries that have issues with women's rights have elected female heads-of-state. Yet the developed nation that claims to be the leader of the free world, Ameica, has never had a female president. How odd.

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#53  Edited By Kadin_Kai
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@jackamomo: The USA is actually still quite a young country and it will eventually have a female leader!

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#54 Jag85
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@kadin_kai: The USA is one of the longest-running democracies around today. After centuries of elections, still no female president. There have been young democracies that had a female head-of-state within decades. The USA is behind most other democracies in that regard. But they'll catch up in due time.

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#55  Edited By ronvalencia
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@jackamomo said:

Is it because Hillary Clinton was just not made of the right stuff. As in, she didn't want it enough or she was complacent during her campaign?

Or is something about the American psyche, wherein heads of state require an air of machismo to connect with the electorate?

The UK is suffering it's second right wing female prime minister at the moment (nothing wrong with being female, just why did she have to be a smelly tory).

Elizabeth II defeated Spain and Victoria defeated France to put the UK at the center of world affairs for the following millennia.

Perhaps a woman's touch would be what is needed to unite a currently somewhat polarised nation?

Would you rule out there ever being a women in charge of the US?

Hillary Clinton has too many baggage. Select another candidate.

UK's Teresa May is hardly right wing when compared to Poland's and Hungry's right wing governments.

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#56 ronvalencia
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Hillary Clinton did win the popular vote by millions of votes. She really should have been our first female president. Why havent we had one, yet? America is kind of conservative compared to Europe and our politics are loaded with rich white guys who have been bought by other rich white guys

Hillary didn't win the popular vote for each state in the union.

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#57 Jackamomo
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@ronvalencia: Theresa May was chosen by her party when David Cameron stepped down. I've no idea of her politics. I think she's just a stand in. I can't tell you one thing she's said or done apart from block children's homes investigations before she was PM.

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#58 Kadin_Kai
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@Jag85: The United States was founded AD 1776, that’s a young country! As for its political system of “Represented Democracy” (you still do not have true democracy) the first election took place in 1778.

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#59 JimB
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@kadin_kai said:

@Jag85: The United States was founded AD 1776, that’s a young country! As for its political system of “Represented Democracy” (you still do not have true democracy) the first election took place in 1778.

We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

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#60 HoolaHoopMan
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@ronvalencia said:
@Shmiity said:

Hillary Clinton did win the popular vote by millions of votes. She really should have been our first female president. Why havent we had one, yet? America is kind of conservative compared to Europe and our politics are loaded with rich white guys who have been bought by other rich white guys

Hillary didn't win the popular vote for each state in the union.

No shit, that's why he didn't say she did. No president has ever done so.

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#61 LJS9502_basic
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@JimB said:
@kadin_kai said:

@Jag85: The United States was founded AD 1776, that’s a young country! As for its political system of “Represented Democracy” (you still do not have true democracy) the first election took place in 1778.

We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

Misogynist that is.......especially when the current president isn't qualified. Unless we're talking qualified disaster.

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#62  Edited By Jag85
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@kadin_kai said:

@Jag85: The United States was founded AD 1776, that’s a young country! As for its political system of “Represented Democracy” (you still do not have true democracy) the first election took place in 1778.

My point is that the US has been having elections for a lot longer than most other democracies (by which I mean representative, not direct). There are countries that didn't have elections until the 20th century, yet they elected female leaders within decades, whereas the US still hasn't done so after centuries of elections.

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We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

Hilary was more than qualified. If anything, her problem was that she was over-qualified, at the wrong time, in a time of growing backlash against qualified mainstream politicians... hence why the US instead elected the most unqualified president in the country's history. But to be fair to Americans, more of them did vote for the woman over the orange guy, but the orange guy won more states.

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#63 JimB
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@Jag85 said:
@kadin_kai said:

@Jag85: The United States was founded AD 1776, that’s a young country! As for its political system of “Represented Democracy” (you still do not have true democracy) the first election took place in 1778.

My point is that the US has been having elections for a lot longer than most other democracies (by which I mean representative, not direct). There are countries that didn't have elections until the 20th century, yet they elected female leaders within decades, whereas the US still hasn't done so after centuries of elections.

@JimB said:

We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

Hilary was more than qualified. If anything, her problem was that she was over-qualified, at the wrong time, in a time of growing backlash against qualified mainstream politicians... hence why the US instead elected the most unqualified president in the country's history. But to be fair to Americans, more of them did vote for the woman over the orange guy, but the orange guy won more states.

She is also a basically a dishonest person with no credibility.

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#64  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Jag85 said:
@kadin_kai said:

@Jag85: The United States was founded AD 1776, that’s a young country! As for its political system of “Represented Democracy” (you still do not have true democracy) the first election took place in 1778.

My point is that the US has been having elections for a lot longer than most other democracies (by which I mean representative, not direct). There are countries that didn't have elections until the 20th century, yet they elected female leaders within decades, whereas the US still hasn't done so after centuries of elections.

@JimB said:

We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

Hilary was more than qualified. If anything, her problem was that she was over-qualified, at the wrong time, in a time of growing backlash against qualified mainstream politicians... hence why the US instead elected the most unqualified president in the country's history. But to be fair to Americans, more of them did vote for the woman over the orange guy, but the orange guy won more states.

1. Hillary mishandled Benghazi situation hence the hate from operatives involve with Benghazi.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/benghazi-survivor-suspended-twitter/

Paronto was part of the team that responded to the Benghazi attacks, which left four Americans dead.

2. Hillary was part of the Obama administration and any problem attached to Obama was attached to Hillary.

Pick another woman. Elizabeth Warren has less baggage than Hillary Clinton.

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#65 ronvalencia
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@Jag85 said:

@kadin_kai: The USA is one of the longest-running democracies around today. After centuries of elections, still no female president. There have been young democracies that had a female head-of-state within decades. The USA is behind most other democracies in that regard. But they'll catch up in due time.

USA has a civil war around April 12, 1861 to April 9 1865, hence it's governance was disrupted.

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#66  Edited By Jag85
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@JimB said:
@Jag85 said:
@JimB said:

We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

Hilary was more than qualified. If anything, her problem was that she was over-qualified, at the wrong time, in a time of growing backlash against qualified mainstream politicians... hence why the US instead elected the most unqualified president in the country's history. But to be fair to Americans, more of them did vote for the woman over the orange guy, but the orange guy won more states.

She is also a basically a dishonest person with no credibility.

As opposed to the other guy, who not only has no qualifications or credibility, but is also known for being a dishonest liar... But sure, keep making excuses, yanks.

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@Jag85 said:
@JimB said:
@Jag85 said:
@JimB said:

We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

Hilary was more than qualified. If anything, her problem was that she was over-qualified, at the wrong time, in a time of growing backlash against qualified mainstream politicians... hence why the US instead elected the most unqualified president in the country's history. But to be fair to Americans, more of them did vote for the woman over the orange guy, but the orange guy won more states.

She is also a basically a dishonest person with no credibility.

As opposed to the other guy, who not only has no qualifications or credibility, but is also known for being a dishonest liar... But sure, keep making excuses, yanks.

Saying Hillary is qualified because she's not as bad as Trump, is saying you're a nice guy because you dont act like Joseph Stalin. Hillary was a terrible candidate. Had Obama been able to run again, he would easily have defeated trump.

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I'd have to read more about her, but so far I'm liking the moderate Democrat Senator from Minnesota who just announced her candidacy.

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@sonicare: Had Obama been able to run again, he would easily have defeated trump.

I doubt it. He was very unpopular by the end.

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@sonicare: Had Obama been able to run again, he would easily have defeated trump.

I doubt it. He was very unpopular by the end.

Obama's approval rating was near 60% by the time he left office. By comparison, Trump's has never been above 50% and dipped down to the mid 30's at several points.

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@sonicare: According to Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton was more qualified than any president in the last two decades, including their husbands Barrack and Bill, as well as Bush Jr. and Trump. The issue was that Hillary was over-qualified. She'd been a major political figure for far too long, and had too much over-exposure, so people were fed-up of her. This should've been clear back in 2008, when she lost to a younger, less-qualified Obama in the primaries, yet she didn't get the hint back then.

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Too many old voters. My mother was the VP of a multimillion dollar company, but she still has the idea that women aren’t fit to be president.

Her mother told her these are the roles you are suited to, which was slightly longer than the list my grandmother’s mother gave to her, and so on.

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@Jag85 said:
@JimB said:
@Jag85 said:
@JimB said:

We have a representative republic. We don't have a woman president yet as a qualified one has yet to come forth.

Hilary was more than qualified. If anything, her problem was that she was over-qualified, at the wrong time, in a time of growing backlash against qualified mainstream politicians... hence why the US instead elected the most unqualified president in the country's history. But to be fair to Americans, more of them did vote for the woman over the orange guy, but the orange guy won more states.

She is also a basically a dishonest person with no credibility.

As opposed to the other guy, who not only has no qualifications or credibility, but is also known for being a dishonest liar... But sure, keep making excuses, yanks.

Look Hillary's past deeds White Water, her cattle futures deal, Travel Gate, Uranium One, her e-mail server, collusion with the Russians and Ukrainians, to name a few.