What is wrong with people, why is Bernie not the nominee yet?

I keep seeing people vote for garbage. Bernie is constantly destroying everyone and is consistent. Do people just not understand how great his policies are?

Who walks into a booth an votes for a garbage mayor or a billionaire ex-mayor. BERNIE has been voting the same way his whole life. For justice of the middle class people. HE LOVES all people the same.

Everyone will succeed under Bernie unless your a billionaire then yeah you should be worried were sick of you.

He's running in a party that despises him and will do anything they can to stop him from succeeding. He's like the dude at a party who no one invited.

Also, he's 80 and recently had a heart attack. If he gets the nomination, people are going to be paying attention to his running mate, and the far left is probably going to force him to pick some loony-toon.

How well is socialism received in US?

Bernie isn't a viable candidate to beat trump. I'm not voting Bernie in the primary. I mean I'd hold my nose and vote for him in the general because we need to get rid of trump. But he's not who should run against trump.

@ProtossRushX: only two states have voted thus far. We literally cannot have a democratic nominee yet because of how the process works.

@joebones5000: "Every one of them will get their turn at the top, just like Gingrich and that other moron did in 2016."

You mean Mitt Romney?

Your trolling is shit in SW, and it's even worse here.

People in both parties don't like him so its harder when he's facing resistance within the majority of the same party. The other thinks he's a communist and will betray America to China or something.

Its actually more logical to say Bloomberg is communist since he has business ties to China and actually likes Xi Jinping which would have serious repercussions for the future, if he does get elected.

Bernie can't win a national election.

Klobuchar is the best democratic candidate remaining

She's the most boring candidate who doesn't really want to change anything.

Bernie sold out to Hillary last election.

I'll never vote for Bernie. His supporters are a toxic joke. I made a comment on Facebook saying since Yang dropped out, I am now gonna support Biden. I immediately got 3 comments from Sanders supporters trolling me and trashing Biden. The only other supporters to treat me like that are Trump supporters. Do they not realize how much of a turn off it is? Especially if someone is on the fence and the candidate they do support just dropped out? They're the only dem candidate supporters that I've had a truly negative interaction with and the fact that Sanders won't do anything about it just shows he will tolerate anything to further his own goals. It's pathetic.

And let's face a harsh truth, Bernie isn't capable of uniting the party. I think we can all agree on that.

@LJS9502_basic: If Bernie was the nominee, I'd have a really hard time voting for him. And I've been voting democrat since I could vote lol.

Sanders is too liberal, too fringe. The things he wants to pass sound good to sympathetic people, but on paper they just don't matter enough.

Literally every other candidate can do things every bit as good as Sanders only without being so extreme about it.

Buttigieg is who should be president.

A Klobuchar/Buttigieg ticket would be my ideal pair.

Yeah it's funny because both sides blame each other for dividing the country, but the GOP sticks together, while the democrats tear each other apart.

Makes you wonder who the divisive group in this country really is.

Also whatever happened to civil discourse? It's a travesty that Sanders supporters go after you simply for supporting Biden. They have a right to support Sanders, but you have a right to support Biden; both need to acknowledge that.

@horgen: Democratic socialism. It's a different animal. Sadly many Americans won't be told that.

@n64dd: That's ironic his posts here are less trolling than yours.

Here in America we've been swimming in a pool of anti-socialism propaganda for decades, rolling off of anti-communism but rooted in entirely different reasoning. While refusing to adjust taxes to account for inflation or grossly imbalanced income on one hand, they use the other hand to condemn government programs as inefficient and wasteful. We've entered the stupid phase of late stage capitalism, where the private sector shoves their greasy grubby fingers into the government to try and pick it apart, and tells the community this is for their own good.

Yeah but hes got old age wisdom I think hes healthy enough for 4 years maybe not 8.

You're one to talk :)

BUTTIGIEG GOT DONATIONS FROM BILLIONAIRES TO hurt bernie. All he does is attack bernie while getting rich donations to keep the status quo. We need bernie instead.

So, he supported the most likely candidate to beat the man who ended up becoming a truly godawful president. That's the sort of pragmatism that I admire.

You think Trump fans are toxic. Hell Bernie fanboys are just as bad and maybe worse. Screw that guy and what he thinks.

Bernie isn't even a Democrat he's just riding the blue wave because he knows he could never win if he ran as an Indy. I'm willing to bet either Buttigieg or Biden will win the nomination.

@Serraph105: Klobuchar is the only one that can realistically pick up all the moderates and independents.

Nah fam, that's selling out.

Neither would anyone though, the independent candidates never win.

If he doesn't win, he should start a socialist party in usa.

BARF!

Proving you wrong and making you eat crow all the time isn't trolling.

He's not really a straight up socialist so I doubt it.

in word? TERRIBLE.

in actual policy? quite well actually. just don't actually call it "socialism"

Both parties and the corporate media don't want him to tear down the great money scheme they got going on. Then the voters are scared and uneducated. They'll settle for the middle in hopes that some republicans and independents/undecideds will join in instead of being scared off and run back to Trump. This isn't the best plan because the Republicans who are with Trump right now will never be enticed away by a moderate Dem.

I've heard of the toxicity of the Bernie supporters as well and it's disheartening. Bernie has denounced those people in a statement after the Culinary Union incident. I hope yall realize that there are a lot of Bernie supporters and the small chunk that's being cruel doesn't represent who Bernie is.

I'm not going to disparage anyone's candidate. Vote for who you think will do the best job and do what you can for your favorite candidate to win the nomination. But whoever the nominee is I ask that we please unite around that one candidate when the time comes.

Bernie is 80 years old and can't understand half the crap he's spewing. I will never vote for him. Not even against Trump. Wont vote for either. I'd vote for almost any other democratic candidate.

@mrbojangles25: I have called and texted for Andrew Yang and from my experience, The only people who have genuinely been disrespectful to me would be Trump supporters and Bernie supporters. Everyone else is fine and totally open for discussion. Oddly enough, The nicest supporters would be Biden's and Pete's. With Sanders' supporters though, It's like a cult. They are so quick to spread lies and troll other candidates in an attempt to tear them down in order to make Bernie look good. And at the end of the day, It makes him come out even worst.

I know a lot of people who simply will not vote if Bernie is the nominee. Posts on this topic too also reflect this. His supporters are so incredibly toxic that they are genuinely are dividing a party where there was no real divide. If you took Bernie out of this race, Things would be a lot more civil and toned down. And the fact that he just happily accepts this despite trying to be a socialist poster boy just proves to me that he doesn't genuinely believe in what he has to say. He's just another useless career politician who can't back up all of his empty promises.

On the political compass, Trump falls pretty close to the top-right (especially with the new moves towards fascist policies). Most DNC candidates are right of centre economically, and above centre socially (Warren is probably the only one that falls below centre). Bernie not only falls left of centre economically (only slightly) but below centre socially.

He's the odd duck out there, and because of the two-party system in the US, he has to run on the DNC ticket in order to get anywhere.

It also doesn't help that the Republicans and their corporate masters have been building a strong case against any sort of left-wing/socialist policy since the beginning of the 20th century. Herbert Hoover had business interests in Russia, and had the 1917 Russian Revolution not happened, he would have ended up the richest man in the world at the time.

Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Geroge HW Bush... they've all been building the system in place today, private prisons, a medical system based on profit over treatment and endless war-profiteering. All backed by strategic over-throwing/supressing of any socialist/left-wing movements around the world (check out the 20th century history of Central America and notice when the US "invaded" to "bring them democracy").

After the fall of the Soviet Union, "The Red Menace" disappeared, so they had to invent another "big bad" to fight endless wars against.

Enter Osama bin Laden and the US-trained freedom fighters in 2001...

Even Hillary Clinton is still parroting the "Red Menace" thing with Bernie these days, trying to drum up fear over his working class empowerment. It's almost comical if it weren't so frightening how effective it is at dissuading people from supporting Bernie.

Which facist polices has trump enacted?

I'll be waiting.

If you can't see them for what they are, I don't need to waste my time pointing them out to you.

And that's all you could glean from that entire post?

Don't let that whole fact thing get in the way of your argument.

Yes, not even a few sentences in and you're just making shit up.

Bernie seems to be hated by both teams.

So he must be doing something right.

Your denial of facts and history isn't my problem.

Name his facist policies has put in place.

@n64dd: leftists think border security and tax cuts are fascism. Leftists promote big government and want the government to control and fund everything, yet they call the government facist. Leftists are hypocrites

not if the goal is to win an election...

That is one area I would love to see also. I keep seeing the left call Trumps policies fascist, but I really don't see any policies he has put into place as being that way.

What do you consider a fascist policy?

Who is a viable candidate to beat Trump in your view in that case?

Because we don´t all share your opinion and for some, we can´t see a far-left wing socialist actually leading the free world,.