Warren/Sanders 2020?

Very well:

Nazis: World War 2? duh...

Ethno States (in general, not just white): Because we are not an isolated community, we live off of trade of goods and more importantly, ideals, especially human rights, an ethno state would be very unethical and counter productive, granted I understand why Richard Spencer would propose that idea, because he and his supporters in the alt-right feel that they are being attacked for either existence and beliefs and want to opt out of it (and quite frankly, all the anti white and conservative shit that people around here write isn't helping), but doing that would mean they will lose connection with the rest of the world, they must accept that they are part of a much larger community, ideas that stem out of spite will inevitably fail.

Look at Wakanda, Christopher Lee most likely knew that something like Wakanda would be so unsustainable that he went to the extent of inventing a magical substance (vibranium) that can seemingly do anything and is an infinite amount, and even then it failed to stay an isolated ethno state, in the real world Wakanda would absolutely fail in a matter of a few years, because every country in the world has advanced as far as it did due to either trade deals or colonization (another unethical action).

Basically ethno states are immoral and economically unsound which will inevitably lead to race wars (unless ofcourse they have some magical substance that will be able to sustain their resources and population without issues...which basically doesn't and will never exist..)

Hopefully that clarifies my position.

So he couldn't have just remembered it wrong?

No we don't need higher taxes, what we need is less spending and cut the size of government.

He remembered climate change being a Chinese conspiracy wrong? lol?

make no mistake, no delusional misunderstanding, Richard Spencer is absolutely a white nationalist.

I'm talking about his jobs claims, don't you think its possible he got the numbers wrong? and try to stick to THIS single subject, I don't want to waste my time possibly debunking all the links you claimed (because so far you haven't really given me much confidence..)

I never denied that but OK.

people who claim to support Richard Spencer and also claim to not be racist are living their lives as a lie.

now I honesly dont care if one is a racist or not, but bothers me is the liying and trolling

Oh great, we are going with leftist definition of racism now, basically once you decide someone is racist they are racist and if they say object that makes them a liar, oh boy, I can already tell this is going to be a waste of my time...If you think Richard Spencer is racist then give me a quote that he said that was racist.

Ugh, no. Talk about holding my nose while voting, I'd still get a nice whiff of the stench. Personally, I hope Kristen Gillibrand gets the nomination. She's a serious progressive who's also thoughtful, measured, and able to work to win votes and backing for her legislation. I wouldn't be opposed to Kamala Harris either. I remember reading some articles about her a while back and thinking I disliked her, but I forgot what those articles were even about much less what I disliked. At any rate, she's more pragmatic and intelligent than either Warren or Bernie. Warren/Sanders would still be better than Trump/Pence, but that's like saying eating a raw turnip is better than eating a shit sandwich.

Intellectual? Hardly. In fact, I see both her and Bernie as unapologetically nonintellectual. My biggest problem with both of them is that they run their mouths nonstop about their own issues, but whenever someone brings up a serious objection to their position they refuse to admit they're wrong at best and start smearing the people questioning them at worst. I don't think either of them is going to risk coming off as too intellectual, they'll be too busy seeing who can shout louder.

So less military spending among other things then?

No, the military is the only department that is the responsibility of the federal government addressed in the U.S. Constitution.

Oh great, we are going with leftist definition of racism now, basically once you decide someone is racist they are racist and if they say object that makes them a liar, oh boy, I can already tell this is going to be a waste of my time...If you think Richard Spencer is racist then give me a quote that he said that was racist.

what the F does that have to do with his quesiton, not a damn thing

If you are talking to me it has everything to do with it.

yes i was talking to you, the hint was the reply quote...

your fact is not related to HOW MUCH money we should spend on it.

Of all the Departments the Department of Defense should get the most. In fact some departments should be eliminated for being utter failures, such as the Department of Education, the DEA and the Department of Energy, to name a few.

Of all the Departments the Department of Defense should get the most. In fact some departments should be eliminated for being utter failures, such as the Department of Education, the DEA and the Department of Energy, to name a few.

So no reform needed in it?

No, since its inception education in the US has been falling steadily.

That would mean reform is needed. smh......

I'm with you on that one.

Wait, JimB wants a nation full of stupid people. Or should I just say full of ignorant and uneducated people?

Well trump WAS elected.......

Yeah, but lost the popular vote.

Yeah, but lost the popular vote.

In 20 states out of 50.

in 30 he won it.

In 20 states out of 50.

in 30 he won it.

Well true it means we have some states that aren't quit as politically educated as others and our flawed EC system weights their votes as more important.

I'm with you on that one.

Wait, JimB wants a nation full of stupid people. Or should I just say full of ignorant and uneducated people?

I want educated people that are not being educated in our education system. The educational system is more concerned teaching social issues than basic education. Educators are like doctors who bury their mistakes educators just graduate them and it shows when you meet them in everyday interaction.

Remember that parents still are responsible for teaching their kid a lot as well. And removing the department of education would not help at all.

They just had more illegal voters.

That is funny Horgen.

Parents actually raising their kids LOL.

Kids today are raised by Youtube where they taught that being a prick is ok and cool.

This is why it's said trump's base is uneducated.

This is why home schooling is growing. Parents want their children educated properly.

This is why home schooling is growing. Parents want their children educated properly.

Reading your last post makes me think your parents failed. There is ZERO proof of illegal votes being a concern. Meanwhile you defend Russian interference. Sad.

And here i thought you claimed that "intelligent people" could see the writing on the wall without a guilty verdict.

When Obama even advocates for illegals to vote, California and other safe heavens only require a driving license to register, a license that is given out to illegals. Can you put 2 and 2 together ?

Ignoring facts doesn't make you look intelligent........

Ignoring facts doesn't make you look intelligent........

Reading your last post makes me think your parents failed. There is ZERO proof of illegal votes being a concern. Meanwhile you defend Russian interference. Sad.

Three million voted in California in the last election.

Lies

Keep deluding yourself.

That is funny Horgen.

Parents actually raising their kids LOL.

Kids today are raised by Youtube where they taught that being a prick is ok and cool.

A lot of your day to day interactions with people have more to do with how their parents raised them. Not if they got A on their physics exam.

School is much more than what you get on an exam.

The problem today is the culture around kids, today you get a participation trophy, you don´t even keep score publically in some football games because the losing team are not allowed to feel bad about being behind.

No wonder kids grow up to be wild and long into adulthood have to learn how the real world works.

football is not education.

competition < corrporation

Sports is actually a education.

No we don't need higher taxes, what we need is less spending and cut the size of government.

Sports is actually a education.

It not only teaches you a skill in form of fitness by physical activity, it also teaches you winning and losing. And that if you want something you need to work hard to get it.

If someone gets sad that they are second or comes last in a race, we should not remove the race, but let them be sad and learn from it.