War on the homeless

So, Tennessee...

...what do you do when someone is homeless and has to sleep in a park or on a stretch of grass somewhere? Why, charge them with a felony, what else?

Now good luck getting them housing with a felony charge, dumbasses.

This country is moving in entirely the wrong direction.

If they're homeless it's 100% their fault. /republicans

This is the way it should be.

If true that's really sad.

In states and cities they put resources to housing homeless it can average over $100K per person, in some cases much more, and that's just to give them shelter and nothing else. Talk about criminal.

In this case, it would be doubt be cheaper to get these people into housing than the costs that go toward keeping these people in jail or prison. But no doubt this is corporate welfare for the prison industrial complex.

That’s the mindset of many people these days unfortunately.

Read the article as it describes things a bit differently then how the o.p. presented it.

Can we just send them all a bunch of bootstraps they can use to pull themselves up with?

And if anyone wonders why I am opposed to Felon Disenfranchisement. Here comes example #321.

Its all about the aesthetics of wealth in the end.

Don't blame the right solely for this.

Case in point, the poster who posted above me.

I'm liking what I see.

There are a lot of people out there, such as myself, that don't need a traditional multi-room home but also don't want to rent someone's in-law unit or accessory dwelling unit.

A 3D printed home for folks that still has all the space and stuff of a regular home on a per-person basis but is made for single folks or couples would be really nice. No need to dump 500+k on a home.

Yup! It's about wealth, not which side of the political spectrum you're on.

It's why the racism argument is so dumb; poor white people have more in common with poor black people than they do wealthy white people; they just don't want to admit it.

Bingo.

The plutonomy strikes again! What's worse is these people are probably better off in prison; they get shelter, fed, and even medical/psychological help.

So you have to ask yourself: why do they need to go to prison to be taken care of? Why can't the public, who ends up paying for it either way you look at it, help these people on the outside instead of inside prison? Why can't we help them contribute to society at cost instead of become a detriment to society at cost?

Because we wouldn't line the prison system's pockets that way, as you said.

It's very annoying seeing homeless people. There needs to be shelters for them like they have for animals.

Less NIMBYism, more affordable housing would definitely help. Owning a home should be getting more affordable as time goes on, but in most places, it appears to be getting more and more out of reach to the average person.

In Canada we have so many places where new housing development is heavily gatekept, in order to preserve the value of the homes already in the area. So no affordable apartments can be built.

If you're in Toronto or Vancouver, if you didn't already buy a home like 10 years ago, you're basically screwed.

@mrbojangles25: I while back I read here in Seattle they spent $20 million to house homeless in the city for one year and for their money's worth they were able to house 400 people... that's $50,000 per person, they could have just wrote them a check they'd be back in school earning a degree, this money has to be getting raided by middle men.

And if that wasn't bad enough, saw Bill Maher mention (saw it on YouTube) how California invested $1.2 billion to house homeless and the costs there are running $837K per homeless person.

I have nothing wrong with government spending money on these issues but it's disgusting watching that money get mishandled so bad.

Here in the Tennessee situation though I think that's worse. Prison should not be a solution to house people that fall on hard times, or can't take care of themselves for mental health issues. Prisons should be about rehabilitating people to be productive and conscientious members of society, empower them to keep them from resorting to crimes that get them there. But we can't have that, especially not since we can barely empower our own non-criminal citizens to make better lives for themselves, how can we expect as much for people that go to prison.

If you read the article a similar law was passed in 2020 and has yet to be inforced.

@eni232: ya. These ungreats. First they take up space on the streets, then they panhandle. How dare they??

Sounds dumb, evil and american.

@outworld222:

Its a conspiracy, they are being used by the sky gods to ruin the streets and trash them.

Yeah those costs are pretty crazy. 50k doesn't seem that bad (that's like a slightly above an average salary I guess?), but the California one is just crazy.

I remember reading up on something similar to this back when they were talking about infrastructure and how like building a train station in Italy might cost 500,000 USD but then to build one in California or on the East Coast it would cost like 15 million or something crazy like that. Not sure about the exact numbers but I remember reading it and feeling pissed off about it.

As much as I support public funding for stuff like that and helping people out and certain aspects of socialism, I really have my reservations simply because I know everything is overpriced by at least 50% due to mismanagement and corruption.

Lmao, read the full story? And give up an opportunity to think up conspiracy theories? surely you jest.

Did you expect most to read the article rather than just blinding following what was said in the o.p.?

“I can promise, they’re not going to be out here rounding up homeless people,” he said of Cookeville law enforcement. But he doesn’t know what might happen in other parts of the state.

It's basically at the PDs discretion. But the fact that it's even an option is an issue.

This war could be won by getting them somewhere to live. I think.

@horgen: yeah and life would be better if it rained money

It is a well documented fact that universal housing policies saves money.

@Maroxad: then start building them yourself if it's so cheap

Actually I was thinking we could make some money out of this.

Gladiator style, all against all in packs of 10. Winner gets free housing for 20 years to life. I mean it is highly likely they have killed someone so it is straight to jail. :P

I am sure your suggestion works too though @Maroxad

@horgen: why stop at the homeless you got millions of people who bust thier ass and struggle to afford rent. Why not make housing free for them too??

Edit: your gladiator idea sounds good. I'm doing alright myself but rent is expensive. You promise 20 years of free rent I will destroy those bums.

I am not a construction engineer. So for the sake of me not being guilty of manslaughter I should probably avoid building anything.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4046466/#:~:text=Providing%20permanent%20supportive%20housing%20to,hospitalizations%20is%20decreased%20by%2077%25

• Providing permanent supportive housing to the homeless community saves the taxpayer money:
  1. Healthcare costs are reduced by 59%
  2. Emergency depatment costs are decreased by 61%
  3. The number of general inpatient hospitalizations is decreased by 77%

Sounds super based! I agree 100%.

im sure you do lol

bunch of dumb shit eliteists talking like they know how it is.

im still single, never made more than 25k a year. so eat a colossal dick.

In jail of course. So you can be exploited as slave labour. This is the US after all.

The issue that remains unsolved is that it doesn't take into account those struggling with drug addiction and mental health. So build more homes (like that 3D printed one) is an amazing idea. But a neighbourhood like that would undoubtedly have to be out of the city center. People would want to move out off of the street of the city center to somewhere deep into the outskirts for that size of land. And that still doesn't take into account those who are struggling with addiction and mental health.

Yeah, I am not a fan of people living hand to mouth. Let people be able to invest in their futures, rather than paying an ever increasing rent. But this is coming from someone who lives in a country with actual upward mobility.

What I was implying at is if this were on twitter, your post would probably end up here,

https://twitter.com/BasedByAccident

give the homeless guns and then hire them to protect school.

2 birds, 1 stone

@Maroxad: where do you live? Your country gives free rent?

Sweden, we dont but our neighbours (Finland) does. And it is a policy I would love to see Sweden copy. It also saves me, as a taxpayer money. As housing them is cheaper than the alternative. But the main reason is simple... it is hte most humane thing to do.

Also... providing housing helps increase the birth rate.

@Maroxad: what's Sweden's homeless population vs the US?

You do realize that a higher population also means a higher tax base?