Top House Republican Tells Fox News He’s Heard From GOP County Attorneys Asking For ‘Ways They Can Go After The Bidens Now’
In the post on Trump's Indictment, I mentioned the Pandoras Box had been opened and Republicans were going to be coming after Biden. It has now happened. Who would ever want to serve in public office if they are fearful of political indictments?
Top House Republican Tells Fox News He’s Heard From GOP County Attorneys Asking For ‘Ways They Can Go After The Bidens Now’
In the post on Trump's Indictment, I mentioned the Pandoras Box had been opened and Republicans were going to be coming after Biden. It has now happened. Who would ever want to serve in public office if they are fearful of political indictments?
Probably some decent, law-abiding people for once.
@JimB: Republicans have been going after Democrats for decades Jim. They just can't find anything.
The Clintons are as corrupt as one can be. As long as all trials involving them are held in Washington DC they are home free. A Democrat can never be found guilty in DC it is just a fact. Of course the Bidens may subplate the Clintons.
Really, were you born yesterday? You gonna have been going after the Clintons for decades.
Trump is a criminal and he’s getting what he deserved. Grow up and accept that you were fooled by the dumbest criminal alive.
You have missed the whole point of the post. Show where any local DA ran on a campaign to take out a political leader other than Bragg. Also name the local DA who filed any charges against Clinton, Bush, or Obama or any other President after they left office. In fact name any local DA that filed any charge against a sitting president. This is what is now different.
Reality is the people pulling strings prefer a geriatric with Alzheimer's in charge. They can’t control Trump hence the orange bad man narrative.
You clueless sheep jump on their bandwagon arguing back and forth being the unintelligent troglodytes you are while they continue to enrich themselves and screw you over.
Really, were you born yesterday? You gonna have been going after the Clintons for decades.
Trump is a criminal and he’s getting what he deserved. Grow up and accept that you were fooled by the dumbest criminal alive.
You have missed the whole point of the post. Show where any local DA ran on a campaign to take out a political leader other than Bragg. Also name the local DA who filed any charges against Clinton, Bush, or Obama or any other President after they left office. In fact name any local DA that filed any charge against a sitting president. This is what is now different.
Why would people who aren't criminals be charged with anything??? Trump has been charged with crimes because he committed crimes. Stop lying to yourself about this guy. Wow.
@JimB: Are you new in this country? Politicians have always been in scandals.
Just look up John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer, they went through exactly what Trump went through now. And at the time, guess what people said? "Who would ever want to serve in public office if they are fearful of political indictments?" but here we are and people still want to serve.
Anyway those GOP county attorneys should stop weaponizing themselves. Hopefully the House Republican told them to cut it out.
Jon Ewards and Elliot Spitzer were not president. County GOP attorneys should not weaponize themselves. What do you think Brag did he weaponized himself. Jon Edwards was indicted by a federal grand jury not a local grand jury and Eliot Spitzer was never charged. Two different occurrences. My point when you open it up to local officials anything can happen, hell a local grand jury could indict Obama for not being a citizen when he assumed the presidency. Anything could happen.
Is this supposed to be the "You do it too" defense? That doesn't apply here because Democrats haven't done it.
Bahaha!
Do you think if Don Jr. did what Hunter Biden did Democrats wouldn't be pressing for criminal charges? Seriously you are absolutely insane.
What exactly do you have evidence of Hunter Biden doing, and I don't mean the far right extremist talking points the sheep follow.
It's not what Hunter Biden did that matters. it's the fact his father put him in a position he wasn't qualified for, for political favors.
It's also hillarious hearing leftist call people sheep when you have the vast majority of mass media behind you and you are just parroting their talking points.
@silentchief: Who got political favours? Biden? Or the opposing part?
From my understanding Biden as he used his position of power to help his sons foreign deals. That's more concerning to me then hush money to a porn star.
@silentchief: Who got political favours? Biden? Or the opposing part?
From my understanding Biden as he used his position of power to help his sons foreign deals. That's more concerning to me then hush money to a porn star.
@silentchief: Who got political favours? Biden? Or the opposing part?
From my understanding Biden as he used his position of power to help his sons foreign deals. That's more concerning to me then hush money to a porn star.
So no facts. Typical.
Unlike you I actually like for an investigation to be complete before I call them " facts".
@silentchief: I don’t care about Hunter Biden, just like I don’t care about Coke head Don Jr. Joe Biden had done nothing wrong.
Hunter Biden is the dumbest scapegoat you guys have.
Of course you don't care that a political official is using his political power to to gain favors for his son while in office. You also don't care they had government agencies get involved in shutting down the story( calling it Russian misinformation ) When the story was in fact true. Which is borderline election fraud. You didn't care when Hillary rigged the DP or deleted thousands of confidential emails, because you are a tribal hypocrite. But you do care about a former president supposedly paying hush money to a pornstar 7 years ago. 🤣
@silentchief: Who got political favours? Biden? Or the opposing part?
From my understanding Biden as he used his position of power to help his sons foreign deals. That's more concerning to me then hush money to a porn star.
From your understanding? Just a few posts ago you were adamant that if Don Jr. "Did what (Hunter) did," he'd be on trial. Now you're backpedaling to vague accusations with no details and hedging even those.
Do you know of something Hunter should be charged for or not? If so, what is it?
@silentchief: Who got political favours? Biden? Or the opposing part?
From my understanding Biden as he used his position of power to help his sons foreign deals. That's more concerning to me then hush money to a porn star.
From your understanding? Just a few posts ago you were adamant that if Don Jr. "Did what (Hunter) did," he'd be on trial. Now you're backpedaling to vague accusations with no details and hedging even those.
Do you know of something Hunter should be charged for or not? If so, what is it?
He sat on a board he was terribly unqualified for. His dad got him the job and received payments in the process.
The House Oversight Committee is planning to hold hearings that look at Hunter Biden and his business dealings with companies in China and Ukraine over the years and whether those actions influenced Joe Biden’s foreign policy decisions.
If Trump was accused of the same thing you would be demanding he was impeached . That's not to mention the lying about the gun purchase which is a felony and the tax filings.
Then I fail to see why his name was brought up in this thread.
Because it does appear a crime may have been committed and an investigation should take place.
I missed when he was elected. When was that again?
Also I asked for your evidence and you told me you had none. So I find your comments bizarre.
The House Oversight Committee is planning to hold hearings that look at Hunter Biden and his business dealings with companies in China and Ukraine over the years and whether those actions influenced Joe Biden’s foreign policy decisions.
Sounds worthy of an investigation to me. Far more concerning then hush payments to a pornstar.
@silentchief: Awesome, what's the evidence for your claims?
witness who testified before the Hunter Biden grand jury was asked to identify the “big guy” in the first son’s planned deal with a Chinese energy conglomerate — as calls ramped up to have President Biden included in a conspiracy probe.
The question arose after the witness was shown a piece of evidence while appearing in secret before the panel in Wilmington, Del., a source familiar with the proceedings told The Post.
A bombshell email exclusively reported by The Post in October 2020 showed that one of Hunter Biden’s business partners, James Gilliar, outlined the proposed percentage distribution of equity in a company created for a joint venture with CEFC China Energy Co.
The March 13, 2017, plan included “10 held by H for the big guy?”
Another former Hunter Biden partner, US Navy veteran Tony Bobulinski, later revealed that “the big guy” was Hunter’s dad, then the Democratic candidate for president, saying, “I have heard Joe Biden say he has never discussed his dealings with Hunter. That is false.”
Hunter Biden disclosed he was under investigation for his “tax affairs” shortly after his dad was elected over former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election, but the probe broadened to include potential money laundering and the violation of lobbying laws, according to recent reports.
In the wake of last week’s report by the Washington Post — which confirmed $4.8 million in payments from CEFC to entities controlled by Hunter Biden and first brother James Biden during 2017 and 2018 — the White House on Sunday attempted to distance the president from his under-scrutiny kin.
White House chief of staff Ron Klain said his boss was “confident that his son didn’t break the law” and “confident that his family did the right thing.”
“But, again, I want to just be really clear, these are actions by Hunter and his brother,” Klain told ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.” “They’re private matters. They don’t involve the president. And they certainly are something that no one at the White House is involved in.”
Former federal law enforcement officials dismissed those claims, with one ex-fed even saying there’s already enough evidence to build a conspiracy case.
“I get that there’s spin, but this is not a complex one,” former Utah US Attorney Brett Tolman told The Post.
Tolman said Bobulinski’s confirmation that President Biden was “the big guy” in a proposed 2017 deal with CEFC China Energy could be considered evidence “that other family members were involved.”
“Conspiracy is a standalone crime in our country, and you’ve certainly got enough to present to the grand jury that there’s a conspiracy among Joe, [brother] James and Hunter to bring in money, to not declare that money, to not pay taxes on that money,” he said.
“And to do so from a country like China, it’s not just red flags — there are potential crimes being committed.”
Tolman, who now runs the “Right on Crime” project of the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation think tank, also said that “depending on the nature and scope” of the case, there could be legal “predicates” for racketeering charges.
Washington, DC, lawyer Jim Trusty, a former chief of the Justice Department’s Organized Crime Section, called Klain’s remarks “a pretty amazing effort to distance Joe Biden from Hunter Biden” and pin any blame on the scandal-scarred first son.
“While we do not know all the evidence yet, there are credible reports of wire transfers in the millions, emails from the ‘laptop from hell’ of Hunter, and guys like Tony Bubulinski who credibly describe a kickback scheme with the now-sitting president of the US as a beneficiary,” Trusty said.
“When you see millions of dollars pouring into the hands of a reckless and unskilled man, you have to at least ask the question of ‘What did these foreign governments receive for these payments?’”
Trusty noted that “it’s not like there is an identifiable product being sold to Russian oligarchs or provided to Burisma,” the Ukrainian energy company that paid Hunter Biden as much as $83,000 a month to sit on its board.
“The question is whether Joe Biden’s vice presidency was for sale and whether Joe was complicit in that sort of scheme,” he said.
Former FBI agent Steve Gray, a Republican candidate for Congress from New Jersey, said, “It’s extremely apparent that Joe Biden is ‘the big guy,’ and I don’t think anyone looking at this seriously and objectively doubts that at all.”
“But look, even if somehow ‘the big guy’ did not refer to Joe Biden, there would still be a serious national security problem,” he said.
“No one in this country not named Joe Biden would be granted a security clearance with these kinds of nefarious dealings occurring with a close relative. It just wouldn’t happen.”
Gray added: “We must consider both Joe and Hunter Biden compromised by the Chinese government.”
ray also said of Hunter Biden’s Chinese business associates, “The only reason they gave Hunter Biden the time of day is because of the influence and information they could gain from his family connections. They’re seeking leverage and intelligence.”
During a campaign appearance in Iowa in September 2019, Joe Biden said, “I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.”
But about two months earlier, the New Yorker magazine published a profile of Hunter Biden based on a series of interviews in which he acknowledged talking once to his father about his job with Burisma.
“Dad said, ‘I hope you know what you are doing,’ and I said, ‘I do,'” he recalled.
CEFC China Energy was headed by Ye Jianming, who was named No. 2 on the Forbes “40 Under 40” list in 2016, but two years later was taken into custody by Chinese authorities amid allegations of economic crimes, shortly before a CEFC subsidiary defaulted on more than $325 million in bond payments.
@silentchief: All that and your own link says it doesn't involve Joe or the White House.
Not true
Another former Hunter Biden partner, US Navy veteran Tony Bobulinski,later revealedthat “the big guy” was Hunter’s dad, then the Democratic candidate for president, saying, “I have heard Joe Biden say he has never discussed his dealings with Hunter. That is false.”
Former FBI agent Steve Gray, a Republican candidate for Congress from New Jersey, said, “It’s extremely apparent that Joe Biden is ‘the big guy,’ and I don’t think anyone looking at this seriously and objectively doubts that at all.”
Top House Republican Tells Fox News He’s Heard From GOP County Attorneys Asking For ‘Ways They Can Go After The Bidens Now’
In the post on Trump's Indictment, I mentioned the Pandoras Box had been opened and Republicans were going to be coming after Biden. It has now happened. Who would ever want to serve in public office if they are fearful of political indictments?
This isn't a "Pandora's Box" situation. This is a "nobody is above the law" situation.
It isn't true that "if they can go after Trump, they can go after anyone". Instead, they can go after anyone, so they can go after Trump. Nobody should be protected from the legal consequences of their actions, just because they were in a position of power.
If Biden has done something wrong, cool, investigate that. The Democrats don't worship him. Nobody is dumb enough to donate money to support his legal fees. If they can make a case and support it with evidence then awesome, the system is working. That applies to Biden as much as it applies to Trump.
But it's sad that the Republicans are like "man, we need to find 'ways we can go after the Bidens now'". There's no shortage of crimes you can investigate the Trumps for, but the best the Republicans have is "maybe we can think of something" or "well the Russians keep telling us Hunter Biden is important".
It highlights just how much there isn't an equivalence here - if you're using the courts to attack both Biden and Trump, you're going to have a much easier time finding Trump guilty of something.
@silentchief: There is no laptop. It’s a heavily modified had image, one that was another dud for you right wingers, unless you care about pics of hunters cock.
@silentchief: There is no laptop. It’s a heavily modified had image, one that was another dud for you right wingers, unless you care about pics of hunters cock.
@silentchief: FYI, the information from various people who saw the information was compromised. If you did you research then you would know that. Also, what happened to your stance that you waited for facts before forming an opinion? Seems that only happens when you want to ignore facts against your "side".
How many times are people gonna continue the Hunter Biden crap? It was definately nepotistic, but so far nothing illegal has been proven to ever occur.
Try to get Joe Biden on actual grounds. Rather than this. You have tried repeatedly and failed every single time.
And no, this is not a "teams" perspective. What Ivanka and Jareed Kushner did was far more corrupt. But we didn't really go after him on this, because even back then it was a bogus thing to go after someone for. Just like this is.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief: FYI, the information from various people who saw the information was compromised. If you did you research then you would know that. Also, what happened to your stance that you waited for facts before forming an opinion? Seems that only happens when you want to ignore facts against your "side".
I actually got him to more or less admit he doesnt base his positions on evidence but rather looks for evidence to try to justify his positions, while making up excuses to dismiss any evidence that refutes his points.
Seeing him repeat the same stunt here is not surprising.
I actually got him to more or less admit he doesnt base his positions on evidence but rather looks for evidence to try to justify his positions, while making up excuses to dismiss any evidence that refutes his points.
Seeing him repeat the same stunt here is not surprising.
No you never got me to admit that 🤣. Do you enjoy lying?
@silentchief: FYI, the information from various people who saw the information was compromised. If you did you research then you would know that. Also, what happened to your stance that you waited for facts before forming an opinion? Seems that only happens when you want to ignore facts against your "side".
I did my research. These are credible witnesses. Notice I didn't say Biden was guilty? However Democrats have launched investigations on Republicans for far less. I'm saying an investigation does in fact need to take place I didn't say he was guilty.
@silentchief: FYI, the information from various people who saw the information was compromised. If you did you research then you would know that. Also, what happened to your stance that you waited for facts before forming an opinion? Seems that only happens when you want to ignore facts against your "side".
I did my research. These are credible witnesses. Notice I didn't say Biden was guilty? However Democrats have launched investigations on Republicans for far less. I'm saying an investigation does in fact need to take place I didn't say he was guilty.
Oh good. We have credible witnesses for all trump's crimes as well. Might as well save the money and skip the court trial and throw him in jail. That's using YOUR logic there dude.
@silentchief: FYI, the information from various people who saw the information was compromised. If you did you research then you would know that. Also, what happened to your stance that you waited for facts before forming an opinion? Seems that only happens when you want to ignore facts against your "side".
I did my research. These are credible witnesses. Notice I didn't say Biden was guilty? However Democrats have launched investigations on Republicans for far less. I'm saying an investigation does in fact need to take place I didn't say he was guilty.
Oh good. We have credible witnesses for all trump's crimes as well. Might as well save the money and skip the court trial and throw him in jail. That's using YOUR logic there dude.
How the **** did you get that from what I said? I said it is worth doing an investigation. I specifically said it didn't mean he was guilty. Honestly I don't even know why I bother anymore.
I actually got him to more or less admit he doesnt base his positions on evidence but rather looks for evidence to try to justify his positions, while making up excuses to dismiss any evidence that refutes his points.
Seeing him repeat the same stunt here is not surprising.
No you never got me to admit that 🤣. Do you enjoy lying?
I asked you to provide evidence, and you failed to do as such, instead providing further excuses to as to why you couldn't find any evidence to back your position. That how someone who starts with evidence and forms conclusions based on those thinks. That is how someone who jumps to conclusions and then works backwards to justify them thinks.
The fact of the matter is, we have plenty of evidence of Trump's Crimes. We currently don't have any for Biden. The only reason we aren't super enthusiastic about this is because quite frankly, we have seen the Laptop nonsense over and over and it has never produced anything fruitful. 2.5 years of nothing but wasted time. Which is why if you want to go after Biden, you should find something else to hit him with. Maybe something related to Afghanistan or something. Because the laptop story isn't it.
Edit: You guys could also investigate stuff he did under the Obama Administration and maybe tie something there related to him.
The fact that you guys continue to push this laptop story even after it has been debunked over and over again. Shows, you are desperate to find some way Biden is guilty, and trying to find ANYTHING to prove as such. The goal here is not to see justice done for a crime. But to use the courts as a weapon against a political opponent.
All in all, if any private citizens have issues with Joe Biden... or Hunter Biden. Speak up, being able to sue ANYONE is an American right. You can't sue for laws you don't like but you CAN sue for "concrete and particularized" harm. If Biden has done something along those lines, then he is very much sue-worthy for any of his victim(s).
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