Trump to stress "America First" in NatSec strategy.

I dont understand your demand

but let me try again.

Last resort: that mean the last resort, sending over rice to people who are starving is not a last resort, miltiary action is considered the last resort to solving a problem. That is like your last emergency saving money in your bed or whereever, that is the last resort, emergency, nothing else left, the most risky.

follow so far? last resort he says.

You dont give your last dime to a stranger and let your child starve.

now what 'demonstration' of a last resort are you asking for? going to war for self preservation? well yeah..that makes sense but its not a humanitary effort because its a last resort.

I hope to make clear the difference between helping someone and a last resort option

Of course you don't.

Well, im good. Have fun with Sun Tzu and having zero grasp of modern economics.

You are not getting this line of thinking from: "Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.” are you?

I am not.

the idea behind a 'last resort' is that it is a 'last resort' you do not use your 'last resort' to save other people.

you use your 'last resort' for self preservation.

so yeah millions would have died but that is not our last resort problem

So I stand with this

'to say our schools are crumbling and we cant afford to make them better but we need to spend a trillion dollars to save iraq childern is in my view un-patoritic'

what does that have to do with anything?

how does that counter the point that war is viewed as an admission of failure and is a last resort. please be direct

This whole line of reasoning is destroyed by the realization that being neutral only benefits the aggressor.

Ahh Sun Tzu. Isn't the the guy who said "man who stands on toilet, is high on pot"?

we should not focus too much on who Sun Tzu is or exact quotes, lets move past the unimportant parts. I think he is actually just tea

no actually it SUPPORTS it!

There is a difference between an action done purely to help someone else and that of an action done in self preservation that happens to also help someone else.

we went to WW2 not to save the jews, we went to WW2 for self presevation, helping the jews was a side effect.

I don't think you actually know a lot about World War II. Saving the Jews was a big part of why we went into the war.

Yeah except I am pretty sure you are grossly misrepresenting Sun Tzu. Sun Tzu considered the military a tool to be actively used in the interest of the state. I am very confused as to why you think he thought war was a last resort.

@kod: @tryit: Both of you shut it. If you can't argue without swearing, don't bother. Any of you posting the F word again gets a 3 day vacation.

Same warning to anyone quoting said posts as well.

Edit: And yes I've deleted all said posts I saw.