Trump tells congresswomen of color born in America to "go back to their crime infested country"

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#401  Edited By R-Gamer
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@zaryia: That poll doesn't prove anything. Polls said Hillary had a 92% to become president. How did that work out for you?

They could had this poll in an extremely left wing area. So without context it means nothing.

From your own link:

"But most Republicans say they agreed with his comments"

Thanks for the confirmation!

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#402  Edited By MirkoS77
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@burntbyhellfire said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@r-gamer said:

@horgen: I think realistically it only bothers people who already hated him. Much of the right including myself is tired of the PC crap. And the women he insulted or about as bad as they get.

I mean the left didn't mind this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-46764052

But now it's unacceptable to insult people?

Trump is the president, he's in a role and position that is much bigger than himself. When he speaks, he's not speaking just for himself, but for the nation and all of its citizens (or should be, at least). Not to say he shouldn't be able to hold his own opinions, but he should at least be beholden to a degree of decorum and respect in his conduct that's reflective of what he represents.

no more double standards, each and every one of those are in a role and position that is much bigger than themselves, they get no pass, they have no right to insult, harass, and threaten on a daily basis, then play victim when he fights back

Trump is far and above all partisan squabbles, or at least he should be. I don't advocate such behavior on any level, but Trump especially because he is not at the same level of who he engages with. Trump is the headpiece of the nation. He's the king, the rest are the other chess pieces. You believe they're all equal?

And please, stop playing the victim. Trump is the bully, and he's always been the bully. You can go ahead and pretend that he's some oh-so innocent decent guy that's the poor victim. He's been disrespectful, insulting, and venomous in his conduct since day 1 to anyone that stands in his way and disagrees with him. It's who he is, to his own testament in his admitted philosophy towards life, no less.

Then you and your ilk, pathetically and predictably, act all huffy and indignant when he gets some of his own medicine thrown back in his face, claiming that he has the right. Sorry, when you start shit, you don't have the final word, and Trump always starts shit.

Take your victimization and persecution complex and shove it where the sun don't shine.

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#403 R-Gamer
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@MirkoS77:

"Take your victimization and persecution complex and shove it where the sun don't shine."

LOL this is hillarious coming from someone on the left. You guys live for victim and persecution. It's all about who's the biggest victim for all of you.

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#404  Edited By PraetorianMan
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@burntbyhellfire said:

because its not racist to tell someone to **** off

You're right, that's not what he said though.

Telling POC to "go back to where you came from" is racist. It always has been racist. Its been racist for even longer than its been antisemetic to tell Jewish people to throw themselves into ovens. The question here isn't whether or not Trump's statement was racisit. The question here is why don't the cuntservative trashpeople care, and deep inside everybody knows the answer. Its because they're just inherently bad people.

Partially stems from a deeper philosophical issue of conservative idiology, where if something doesn't affect an individual's personal life, then that person shouldn't care about the problem at all. A lot of conservatives don't take it that far and actually have some level of human decency and are capable of drawing the line somewhere. A lot of conservatives can't.

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#405 sonicare
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It's disappointing that in 2019, we have people that would think that way. Trump continues to set the bar lower and lower.

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#406 MirkoS77
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@r-gamer said:

@MirkoS77:

"Take your victimization and persecution complex and shove it where the sun don't shine."

LOL this is hillarious coming from someone on the left. You guys live for victim and persecution. It's all about who's the biggest victim for all of you.

I'm not on the Left.

Take some accountability for the person you support.

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#407  Edited By R-Gamer
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@MirkoS77: I don't think he did anything wrong. He can rip them all he wants. The right has took the high ground vs the left for years. They stayed silent constantly as the left constantly played the victims. That's why we have Trump in the first place.

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#408 Chutebox
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@zaryia: Changed how

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#409 jeezers
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@PraetorianMan: thats moronic, so because they are POC.... its racist, but if its said to a white person its not racist? I love telling Europeans to **** off to thier country when they start bashing america. Dont like it here? Leave frenchie!!!

Also hollywood celebrities who bash america from thier 50 million dollar mansions in CA. think America is bad and so oppresive, then get off your yacht and gtfo. Go to canada like they said they would if trump won.

The message was clear, do you hate america? If so, why dont you go some where else?? Its a reasonable thing to say. Of coarse they wont leave, there are way too many benefits of being in America. They just enjoy complaining and pretending to be oppressed while reaping the benefits of being here in America.

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#410  Edited By Xabiss
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All I am going to say is both sides need to stop this crap. The left spews just as much hate as the right does right now. Anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem.

The squad is just at fault for spewing hate as much as Donald Trump spews it. Both parties are full of a bunch of hypocrites! They don't really want to help this country, they just want to win and impeach anyone who they don't like.

The amount of made up crap from both sides is just amazing anymore. Hell the left will not even denounce Antifa, which is a hate group, and they are trying to make them martyrs for the attack on that detention center. Which is just as bad as anyone in the right supporting hate groups.

Both groups are nucking futs right now!

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#411 PraetorianMan
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@jeezers said:

@PraetorianMan: thats moronic, so because they are POC.... its racist, but if its said to a white person its not racist?

Um...Yeah....

...like, WTF? How is this not obvious?

Are you going to argue that telling a jewish vs a nonjewish person to "go burn in an oven" is NOT different? That telling a black vs a white person to "**** off and go pick some cotton" is NOT different? Are you just willfully blind of the history and society we live in? Or is that just a shtick?

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#412  Edited By Zaryia
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@zaryia: Changed how

On Sunday he said she should go back. He double and trippled down on this.

And as a result his crowd was chanting "send her back"

I'm glad he no longer wnats her to go back and disagrees with the crowd now.

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#413  Edited By Chutebox
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@zaryia: That's not all he said. Why do you leave out parts that totally change the meaning of what he said?

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#414 Chutebox
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@Xabiss said:

All I am going to say is both sides need to stop this crap. The left spews just as much hate as the right does right now. Anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem.

The squad is just at fault for spewing hate as much as Donald Trump spews it. Both parties are full of a bunch of hypocrites! They don't really want to help this country, they just want to win and impeach anyone who they don't like.

The amount of made up crap from both sides is just amazing anymore. Hell the left will not even denounce Antifa, which is a hate group, and they are trying to make them martyrs for the attack on that detention center. Which is just as bad as anyone in the right supporting hate groups.

Both groups are nucking futs right now!

Yuuup

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@PraetorianMan: horrible examples one relates directly to the holocaust, the other to slavery, which ethnicity did trumps comment apply too???

It can be applied to anyone who trashes on America, doesnt have to be any ethnicity, its a universal phrase that can be used towards anyone.

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#416 LJS9502_basic
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@r-gamer said:

@MirkoS77: I don't think he did anything wrong. He can rip them all he wants. The right has took the high ground vs the left for years. They stayed silent constantly as the left constantly played the victims. That's why we have Trump in the first place.

The POTUS can criticize an idea or policy as an adult...…..he should NOT be insulting, bullying, and making personal attacks. There is no excuse and if you're his apologist.....which you seem to be...…..YOU are part of the problem. Not the solution.

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#417  Edited By Zaryia
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@Chutebox said:

@zaryia: That's not all he said. Why do you leave out parts that totally change the meaning of what he said?

Wait, so he didn't literally tell Omar to go back to her country? Interesting, it must have all been a dream! Also, what country were AOC, Pressley, and Talib supposed to go back to - out of curiosity? I guess the Federal Guidelines saying this exact type of phrase is discriminatory is also fake news.

Please stop trying to tell me, and a majority of Americans, that we don't understand the English language.

More than two-thirds of those aware of the controversy, 68%, call Trump's tweets offensive

Did you think the crowd was going to chant "Send her back" if he hadn't made those tweets on Sunday which were telling her (and the 3 others) to go back to her country?

Are you feeling okay? Revisionist history doesn't work if its only a few days old lol.

@Chutebox said:
@Xabiss said:

All I am going to say is both sides need to stop this crap.

Yuuup

Ooooh the both sides fallacy.

I agree both sides do behave with hatred, and there is also terrorism on both side. You won't find me debating that fact. But, I don't agree that it's equal. All the data shows otherwise.

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#418  Edited By Chutebox
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@zaryia said:
@Chutebox said:

@zaryia: That's not all he said. Why do you leave out parts that totally change the meaning of what he said?

Wait, so he didn't literally tell Omar to go back to her country? Interesting, it must have all been a dream! Also, what country were AOC, Pressley, and Talib supposed to go back to - out of curiosity? I guess the Federal Guidelines saying this exact type of phrase is discriminatory is also fake news.

Please stop trying to tell me, and a majority of Americans, that we don't understand the English language.

See, you're doing it again and you KNOW you're doing it.

Just be honest. He said stupid shit. Racist? Nah.

Those polls pull the same shit you're doing here.

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#419  Edited By MirkoS77
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@jeezers said:

@PraetorianMan: horrible examples one relates directly to the holocaust, the other to slavery, which ethnicity did trumps comment apply too???

It can be applied to anyone who trashes on America, doesnt have to be any ethnicity, its a universal phrase that can be used towards anyone.

He doesn't need to refer to any ethnicity. The ethnicity is implied in the place he's telling them to return to.

Trump believes these people are anti-American in their sentiments, actions, whatever. Of what reason necessitates the phrasing "go back to where you came from"? Could he have not expressed his discontent and made his point without resorting to such a statement? Sure he could've, and we'd not be having this discussion. But he did, and I want to know why it was necessary instead of saying something like, "Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and hunker down and work on fixing the areas of your responsibility instead of sitting there complaining and criticizing?"

Why was it necessary to tell them to go back to where they came from, and what relevance did it have to get his point across? Would he have used it towards whites?

Never, it wouldn't have even crossed his mind. That should be ringing alarm bells in your head.

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One thing I've learned recently is that for edgelords nothing is racist. I had actually one guy I know telling me that a skinhead that was involved (and convicted for) in the murdering of a person of colour was not actually racist, just a violent person. Which could be argued, generally speaking, if this kind of discourse wasn't basically a call for inaction. With Trump is exactly the same thing, with some people he could shit in their mouths and they would argue that in essence a toilet and their throats share so much in common that would be unfair to criticize Trump for that

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#421  Edited By Zaryia
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@Chutebox said:

Just be honest. He said stupid shit. Racist? Nah.

Nah, it was Racist.

Which is why most Americans said it was racist, offensive, and un-American.

Which is why actual hate groups loved it.

Which is why using such language is even seen as discriminatory by Federal Law.

Which is why people started chanting "Send her back" at his rally. That was due to his tweet, bro.

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#422  Edited By Chutebox
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@zaryia: It wasn't racist if you actually, you know, read it all. Shouldn't be difficult?

Here, I'll tell you again. he said go back, fix those torn ass countries (although this only applies to one of them...Trump lol), come BACK (never heard a racist to tell someone they hate to come back) and tell us how you did it.

There ya go, you're welcome.

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#423  Edited By Zaryia
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@Chutebox said:

@zaryia: It wasn't racist if you actually, you know, read it all. Shouldn't be difficult?

Here, I'll tell you again. he said go back, fix those torn ass countries (although this only applies to one of them...Trump lol), come BACK (never heard a racist to tell someone they hate to come back) and tell us how you did it.

There ya go, you're welcome.

I've read the tweet.

It was racist. He still told 4 American Citizen minorities to go back to their country from were they came from. That is literally racist. Hence,

Which is why most Americans said it was racist, offensive, and un-American.

Which is why actual hate groups loved it.

Which is why using such language is even seen as discriminatory by Federal Law.

Which is why people started chanting "Send her back" at his rally. That was due to his tweet, bro.

You may say it's stupidity, most saw it as more than that.

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#424 Chutebox
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@zaryia: Leaving out most of.it again.... surprise

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#425  Edited By burntbyhellfire
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@MirkoS77 said:
@burntbyhellfire said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@r-gamer said:

@horgen: I think realistically it only bothers people who already hated him. Much of the right including myself is tired of the PC crap. And the women he insulted or about as bad as they get.

I mean the left didn't mind this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-46764052

But now it's unacceptable to insult people?

Trump is the president, he's in a role and position that is much bigger than himself. When he speaks, he's not speaking just for himself, but for the nation and all of its citizens (or should be, at least). Not to say he shouldn't be able to hold his own opinions, but he should at least be beholden to a degree of decorum and respect in his conduct that's reflective of what he represents.

no more double standards, each and every one of those are in a role and position that is much bigger than themselves, they get no pass, they have no right to insult, harass, and threaten on a daily basis, then play victim when he fights back

Trump is far and above all partisan squabbles, or at least he should be. I don't advocate such behavior on any level, but Trump especially because he is not at the same level of who he engages with. Trump is the headpiece of the nation. He's the king, the rest are the other chess pieces. You believe they're all equal?

And please, stop playing the victim. Trump is the bully, and he's always been the bully. You can go ahead and pretend that he's some oh-so innocent decent guy that's the poor victim. He's been disrespectful, insulting, and venomous in his conduct since day 1 to anyone that stands in his way and disagrees with him. It's who he is, to his own testament in his admitted philosophy towards life, no less.

Then you and your ilk, pathetically and predictably, act all huffy and indignant when he gets some of his own medicine thrown back in his face, claiming that he has the right. Sorry, when you start shit, you don't have the final word, and Trump always starts shit.

Take your victimization and persecution complex and shove it where the sun don't shine.

are you fucking daft? it wasnt trump supporters who created threat to piss and moan like children because somebody said a bad word.. thats you, thats zaryia, its the other people here looking for an excuse to boohoo over anything they feel they can possibly get away with a little faux outrage over.. i pointed out the reality, trumps opponents that he has criticized have said way, WAY worse about him and his family than he has ever said about anyone else.. and you people act like its the end of the world because he pushes back

stop whining, and thats all you and zaryia are doing, is looking for an excuse to whine, you people started this victimization thread, not me, stop being a hypocrite

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#426  Edited By Zaryia
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@burntbyhellfire said:
@MirkoS77 said:

are you fucking daft? it wasnt trump supporters who created threat to piss and moan like children because somebody said a bad word.. thats you, thats zaryia, its the other people here

And most Americans.

More than two-thirds of those aware of the controversy, 68%, call Trump's tweets offensive.

Two-thirds of those surveyed, 65%, say that telling minority Americans to "go back where they came from" is a racist statement.

You must hate this country if you think 68% of them are wrong, get outta here!

@burntbyhellfire said:

stop whining, and thats all you and zaryia are doing, is looking for an excuse to whine, you people started this victimization thread, not me, stop being a hypocrite

Trash post. It's not a victimization thread. It's just facts and news. Facts don't care about your feelings, child.

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#427  Edited By burntbyhellfire
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polls don't gauge public opinion, they guide it, because there are a lot of people out there, so stupid, so gullible, that if a poll tells them most people believe the sky is yellow, the next day they'll be out there telling everyone the sky is yellow, and since a poll told them most believe believe it to be true then by golly, they'll believe it as well

learn to think for yourself kid. you cant even get half of gamespot to agree with you, and thats a fairly diverse representation, more so than those ABC polled if they actually polled anybody at all

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#428  Edited By Zaryia
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@burntbyhellfire said:

polls don't gauge public opinion, they guide it,

BTW here is another one of Trump's cultists inspired by him yet again,

'Go back to their country:' Naperville Bucky's cashier fired after questioning customers' citizenship

https://abc7news.com/naperville-gas-station-cashier-fired-after-questioning-customers-citizenship/5403917/

Much like that huge chanting Klan rally your boy Trump was at yesterday.

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oh wow, someone was fired from a gas station for being rude to a customer.. you reeeeeeeeeeeally proved your point now

honest question.. how old are you?

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@LJS9502_basic: Yea I'll gladly be part of the problem then. The thing is I didn't even really love trump. But he was a necessary evil to take on the ridiculously politically correct left. He's like throwing a turd in the punchbowl at a party with a bunch of people you don't like. So the more he does this and the more it offends people like you the happier it makes me.

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#431 burntbyhellfire
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@r-gamer said:

@LJS9502_basic: Yea I'll gladly be part of the problem then. The thing is I didn't even really love trump. But he was a necessary evil to take on the ridiculously politically correct left. He's like throwing a turd in the punchbowl at a party with a bunch of people you don't like. So the more he does this and the more it offends people like you the happier it makes me.

agreed, he certainly wasnt my choice in 2016, and may not be my choice in 2020 with some of his actions and comments against guns.. but he really does expose the hate and intolerance of the left which is entertaining to say the least

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Lol, those polls are trash because they don't actually use trump's full quote. They cut out all the context so it seems racist.

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#433 LJS9502_basic
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@Chutebox said:

See, you're doing it again and you KNOW you're doing it.

Just be honest. He said stupid shit. Racist? Nah.

Those polls pull the same shit you're doing here.

Dude it was racist. I get that you love the trump but he's been racist his entire life. The facts back that up. You like his policies. You can state that. But stop defending the indefensible. The US should be better than that.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Chutebox said:

See, you're doing it again and you KNOW you're doing it.

Just be honest. He said stupid shit. Racist? Nah.

Those polls pull the same shit you're doing here.

Dude it was racist. I get that you love the trump but he's been racist his entire life. The facts back that up. You like his policies. You can state that. But stop defending the indefensible. The US should be better than that.

Yeah, it's not like the birther stuff was racist. He was just concerned Obama wasn't a citizen!

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#435  Edited By Chutebox
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Chutebox said:

See, you're doing it again and you KNOW you're doing it.

Just be honest. He said stupid shit. Racist? Nah.

Those polls pull the same shit you're doing here.

Dude it was racist. I get that you love the trump but he's been racist his entire life. The facts back that up. You like his policies. You can state that. But stop defending the indefensible. The US should be better than that.

Trump is gutter trash. I don't like a number of his policies. Stop spouting this shit and lying about me to try and bolster your point. It's not racist. If it is, please point me to any racist person telling people they hate to come back and teach them. Please do!

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#436  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Dude it was racist. I get that you love the trump but he's been racist his entire life. The facts back that up. You like his policies. You can state that. But stop defending the indefensible. The US should be better than that.

Trump is gutter trash. it's not racist. If it is, please point me to any racist person telling people they hate to come back and teach them. Please do!

Telling minority individuals to go back where they came from is, was, and always will be racist. Being an apologist for racism seems to indicate shared feelings though.

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@Chutebox said:
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Dude it was racist. I get that you love the trump but he's been racist his entire life. The facts back that up. You like his policies. You can state that. But stop defending the indefensible. The US should be better than that.

Trump is gutter trash. it's not racist. If it is, please point me to any racist person telling people they hate to come back and teach them. Please do!

Telling minority individuals to go back where they came from is, was, and always will be racist. Being an apologist for racism seems to indicate shared feelings though.

If Trump said go back where you came from and stopped there, I'd agree with you. Again, for the millionth time, he said go back, fix those places (again, this only applies to one of them because lolTrump), come back and tell us how they did it.

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@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Dude it was racist. I get that you love the trump but he's been racist his entire life. The facts back that up. You like his policies. You can state that. But stop defending the indefensible. The US should be better than that.

Trump is gutter trash. it's not racist. If it is, please point me to any racist person telling people they hate to come back and teach them. Please do!

Telling minority individuals to go back where they came from is, was, and always will be racist. Being an apologist for racism seems to indicate shared feelings though.

If Trump said go back where you came from and stopped there, I'd agree with you. Again, for the millionth time, he said go back, fix those places (again, this only applies to one of them because lolTrump), come back and tell us how they did it.

Still racist. Apologize all you want. PS three were born in the US. So I guess he's saying the US government needs fixed. Agreed. Starting with a new president. The fourth is naturalized and came over as a child. Again.…….he's slagging off the US and is too stupid to know it.

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#439  Edited By Zaryia
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@burntbyhellfire said:

honest question.. how old are you?

Old enough not to know you couldn't refute the polls with any valid citation, and instead used a ludicrous conspiracy theory.

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#440  Edited By Zaryia
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@r-gamer said:

@LJS9502_basic: Yea I'll gladly be part of the problem then. The thing is I didn't even really love trump. But he was a necessary evil to take on the ridiculously politically correct left. He's like throwing a turd in the punchbowl at a party with a bunch of people you don't like. So the more he does this and the more it offends people like you the happier it makes me.

agreed, he certainly wasnt my choice in 2016, and may not be my choice in 2020 with some of his actions and comments against guns.. but he really does expose the hate and intolerance of the left which is entertaining to say the least

So logically you'll vote for the party with even more hate and racial/religious intolerance?

MAKES SENSE!

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#441  Edited By Chutebox
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Dude it was racist. I get that you love the trump but he's been racist his entire life. The facts back that up. You like his policies. You can state that. But stop defending the indefensible. The US should be better than that.

Trump is gutter trash. it's not racist. If it is, please point me to any racist person telling people they hate to come back and teach them. Please do!

Telling minority individuals to go back where they came from is, was, and always will be racist. Being an apologist for racism seems to indicate shared feelings though.

If Trump said go back where you came from and stopped there, I'd agree with you. Again, for the millionth time, he said go back, fix those places (again, this only applies to one of them because lolTrump), come back and tell us how they did it.

Still racist. Apologize all you want. PS three were born in the US. So I guess he's saying the US government needs fixed. Agreed. Starting with a new president. The fourth is naturalized and came over as a child. Again.…….he's slagging off the US and is too stupid to know it.

Bolded: ya, I addressed that. Trump is dumb lol.

Not apologizing for anything. Not racist.

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@Chutebox: If you're not apologizing for it then admit it was racist. Because it is. Probably with a tinge of misogyny.

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#443  Edited By R-Gamer
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@zaryia: The party of hate and intolerance? Lol that's on the left and has been for years.

You don't want millions of refugees from a war torn country coming into yours? Then you're a racist.

Don't believe white privilege exist? You're a Nazi

Don't believe in 127+ genders? You're a homophobe

That's essentially how the left choose to deal with discussion over the past decade. Simply dehumanize those they disagree with and surround themselves in an echo chamber. So I'll gladly take whatever opposes that.

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@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Telling minority individuals to go back where they came from is, was, and always will be racist. Being an apologist for racism seems to indicate shared feelings though.

If Trump said go back where you came from and stopped there, I'd agree with you. Again, for the millionth time, he said go back, fix those places (again, this only applies to one of them because lolTrump), come back and tell us how they did it.

lol it doesn't magically cease to be racist because because you expanded upon your thought. The president told minority individuals go back to "their" countries and fix them on the grounds that they are "from them." It's as simple as that.

It would be like if I told a black guy to go pick cotton based on him being black, but then clarify that he should willingly do so, at a living wage, as a career stepping stone in agriculture. It isn't any less shitty or racist because of the context.

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#445  Edited By Zaryia
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@zaryia: The party of hate and intolerance?

Yes. Facts don't care about your feelings.

https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/intelligence_report_166.pdf

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map/by-ideology

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/

Thinking the left is too hateful and intolerant and voting for the right due to this is pretty dumb shit. The home of literally KKK, Neo-Naziz, and White Supremacists - and nearly all domestic terrorism in recent years. Also most hate crimes I believe.

That's essentially how the left choose to deal with discussion over the past decade. Simply dehumanize those they disagree with and surround themselves in an echo chamber. So I'll gladly take whatever opposes that.

I'm pretty sure a bunch of twitter snowflakes aren't as bad as the groups and crimes I just listed.

https://www.brennancenter.org/publication/fighting-far-right-violence-and-hate-crimes

Analogy: Kind of like complaining about one PC gaming having low FPS on a super-rig due to a bug, and then going out and buying a PS4 (lol) in reponse.

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@Chutebox: If you're not apologizing for it then admit it was racist. Because it is. Probably with a tinge of misogyny.

Wait, me believing it wasn't racist is me apologizing for it? Haha. Ok dude.

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@zaryia: So you basically just said that far right extremists represent the main stream right.

LOL!

Honestly the fact you base your entire political beliefs off the actions of the select few says alot.

The difference is my statements are true of the main stream left.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/29260-college-study-democrats-far-less-tolerant-than-republicans

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/why-the-left-is-consumed-with-hate-1537723198

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-country-it-turns-out-is-more-tolerant-than-the-left/2018/06/25/9937cdbc-789c-11e8-aeee-4d04c8ac6158_story.html%3foutputType=amp

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/pew-liberals-far-more-intolerant-opposite-party-friends-conservatives-moderates

Yes... facts don't care about your feelings.

And your analogy better describes you. Making a life decision based off a few extreme examples.

You have a better chance of being killed by an animal in the US then a far right terrorist attack.

https://www.cato.org/blog/more-americans-die-animal-attacks-terrorist-attacks

Lol talk about fear mongering.

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@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@Chutebox: If you're not apologizing for it then admit it was racist. Because it is. Probably with a tinge of misogyny.

Wait, me believing it wasn't racist is me apologizing for it? Haha. Ok dude.

Yes yes it is. You're accepting the behavior.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Chutebox said:
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@Chutebox: If you're not apologizing for it then admit it was racist. Because it is. Probably with a tinge of misogyny.

Wait, me believing it wasn't racist is me apologizing for it? Haha. Ok dude.

Yes yes it is. You're accepting the behavior.

I'm sorry man, that's not how life works.

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#450  Edited By Zaryia
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@zaryia: So you basically just said that far right extremists represent the main stream right.

Oh, you were talking about political disagreement? I thought we were talking about actual hatred and racial interolance. The right has a monopoly on those.

Most hate groups and hate crimes are on the right. Nearly all political terrorism is from the right. You haven't refuted those factual links I gave. Facts don't care about your feelings.

So anyone who votes for Trump because they think the left is being too hateful is just being stupid. Trump is one of the most hateful politician in modern history being part of the most hateful party.

P.S. When is the last time a Democrat Rally became like a KKK rally like Trump's did this week?