Trump releases his 2nd term agenda *establishment is not going to like it*

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/08/24/trump-releases-his-second-term-agenda-n2574894

President Trump: Fighting for You!

JOBS

·Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 Months

·Create 1 Million New Small Businesses

·Cut Taxes to Boost Take-Home Pay and Keep Jobs in America

·Enact Fair Trade Deals that Protect American Jobs

·"Made in America" Tax Credits

·Expand Opportunity Zones

·Continue Deregulatory Agenda for Energy Independence

ERADICATE COVID-19

·Develop a Vaccine by The End Of 2020

·Return to Normal in 2021

·Make All Critical Medicines and Supplies for Healthcare Workers in The United States

·Refill Stockpiles and Prepare for Future Pandemics

END OUR RELIANCE ON CHINA

·Bring Back 1 Million Manufacturing Jobs from China

·Tax Credits for Companies that Bring Back Jobs from China

·Allow 100% Expensing Deductions for Essential Industries like Pharmaceuticals and Robotics who Bring Back their Manufacturing to the United States

·No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China

·Hold China Fully Accountable for Allowing the Virus to Spread around the World

HEALTHCARE

·Cut Prescription Drug Prices

·Put Patients and Doctors Back in Charge of our Healthcare System

·Lower Healthcare Insurance Premiums

·End Surprise Billing

·Cover All Pre-Existing Conditions

·Protect Social Security and Medicare

·Protect Our Veterans and Provide World-Class Healthcare and Services

EDUCATION

·Provide School Choice to Every Child in America

·Teach American Exceptionalism

DRAIN THE SWAMP

·Pass Congressional Term Limits

·End Bureaucratic Government Bullying of U.S. Citizens and Small Businesses

·Expose Washington’s Money Trail and Delegate Powers Back to People and States

·Drain the Globalist Swamp by Taking on International Organizations That Hurt American Citizens

DEFEND OUR POLICE

·Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers

·Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers

·Prosecute Drive-By Shootings as Acts of Domestic Terrorism

·Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice

·End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial

END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS

·Block Illegal Immigrants from Becoming Eligible for Taxpayer-Funded Welfare, Healthcare, and Free College Tuition

·Mandatory Deportation for Non-Citizen Gang Members

·Dismantle Human Trafficking Networks

·End Sanctuary Cities to Restore our Neighborhoods and Protect our Families

·Prohibit American Companies from Replacing United States Citizens with Lower-Cost Foreign Workers

·Require New Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially

INNOVATE FOR THE FUTURE

·Launch Space Force, Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars

· Build the World’s Greatest Infrastructure System

·Win the Race to 5G and Establish a National High-Speed Wireless Internet Network

·Continue to Lead the World in Access to the Cleanest Drinking Water and Cleanest Air

Partner with Other Nations to Clean Up our Planet’s Oceans

AMERICA FIRST FOREIGN POLICY

·Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home

·Get Allies to Pay their Fair Share

·Maintain and Expand America’s Unrivaled Military Strength

·Wipe Out Global Terrorists Who Threaten to Harm Americans

·Build a Great Cybersecurity Defense System and Missile Defense System

I like this list alot!! Granted, he cant do it all unless congress can come together on it. But the one thing here that i want to point out that NEEDS to happen is this one:

Pass Congressional Term Limits

Seriously would love to see it happen but i know the DNC and GOP old guard will never let it happen, they make too money doing nothing and milking our tax dollars. I am still very happy that its on this list either way.

Milk toast fence sitter Tim Pool is even hype about it. He finally admitted hes going to vote Trump this time around.

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No offense, but I found myself laughing at this. It is EXTREMELY vague, sometimes contradictory, and in many ways it shows how little he knows about what powers he even has as a president. This list may as well have been written by a child who for some reason is running for president.

Tim Pool is one of the worst streamers out there, his arguments are garbage. And I am not surprised that a simpleton like Tim Pool is impressed by this.

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@Maroxad: I agree it is vague, but i still like it. I would think most people would agree that most of whats here is good, even if it is vague. Its an outline if anything.

I like Tim, not for his arguments but for how he analysis articles by different outlets. Tim honestly kinda pisses me off with his fence sitting, but he is objective. I can at least give him credit for that.

Even Tim calls it out as vague and questions if alot of this stuff will ever be able to get through congress. But even while being vague, he likes it more than what we have seen from Biden *shrug*.

But i do really like that Trump is pushing for congressional term limits, no more 40+ year politicians wasting space with no ideas. This is something i've wanted long before Trump came into politics.

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@jeezers: It being vague is only one third of the issues I have with Trump's list. He also comes across as completley ignorant of what he can even do as a president. And it is also incoherrent in some cases. He wants to pull out the US military out of foreign countries, but he also wants to stomp out all terrorism world-wide? Can't have it both ways. He also wants to boost the military. And his campaign promise involves stopping COVID19 in the year 2020, when his second term would not even begin until 2021 *facedesk*.

I used to be in favor of Term Limits for congress. But research has shown that it really isnt a good idea.

It leads to increased political polarization, https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/706764
It leads to decreased skill of the politicians, https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/153244000600600402
It does not positively affect voter turnout, https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/153244000700700207

What exactly is the goal of Term Limits? Because even its supposed benefits dont really exist like those peddling it likes to claim it does.

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·Protect Social Security and Medicare

He JUST pledged to wipe out it's funding.

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@mattbbpl: he did not lol

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@Maroxad: I would say there are alot of people, of all different political leanings, that get sick and tired of seeing politicians sit in thier chairs for 40+ years and accomplish absolutely nothing. They are lazy and many times corrupt. That includes both Dems and Repubs. I'm for Term limits, we need more new blood, these old vampires gotta go. At least a 15-20 year limit, something, alot of these skeletons we got are worthless and do jack...im not alone in this thinking man.

Want an example? Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell.

They are garbage and should have retired 20+ years ago, things cant change for the better with these hacks.

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@jeezers said:

@mattbbpl: he did not lol

He did.

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@Maroxad said:

No offense, but I found myself laughing at this. It is EXTREMELY vague, sometimes contradictory, and in many ways it shows how little he knows about what powers he even has as a president. This list may as well have been written by a child who for some reason is running for president.

Tim Pool is one of the worst streamers out there, his arguments are garbage. And I am not surprised that a simpleton like Tim Pool is impressed by this.

it reminds me of people running for class president in grammar school.

1) no more homework!
2) pizza for lunch everyday!

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@jeezers said:

@Maroxad: I would say there are alot of people, of all different political leanings, that get sick and tired of seeing politicians sit in thier chairs for 40+ years and accomplish absolutely nothing. They are lazy and many times corrupt. That includes both Dems and Repubs. I'm for Term limits, we need more new blood, these old vampires gotta go. At least a 15-20 year limit, something, alot of these skeletons we got are worthless and do jack...im not alone in this thinking man.

Want an example? Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell.

They are garbage and should have retired 20+ years ago, things cant change for the better with these hacks.

I havent seen much evidence of term limits limiting corruption. Campaign spending, with or without term limits remain roughly the same. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/153244000700700102

You are correct that it is a pretty popular view to have though, but after looking through the evidence, data and studies, I am not sure it is the right path to take.

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@mattbbpl said:
@jeezers said:

@mattbbpl: he did not lol

He did.

Trump didn't pledge to defund Medicaid or SS, its a deferment on the payroll tax from September to December this year, to help people who got hit by covid keep more of their own money.

In Reality you should be saying "Trump wants to give Americans a tax cut until the end of the year due to covid"

But you come here saying, "Trump is pledging to eliminate Medicaid and SS"

You see how this works???

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#12  Edited By mattbbpl
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@jeezers said:
@mattbbpl said:
@jeezers said:

@mattbbpl: he did not lol

He did.

Trump didn't pledge to defund Medicaid or SS, its a deferment on the payroll tax from September to December this year, to help people who got hit by covid keep more of their own money.

In Reality you should be saying "Trump wants to give Americans a tax cut until the end of the year due to covid"

But you come here saying, "Trump is pledging to eliminate Medicaid and SS"

You see how this works???

Trump promised to make the payroll tax cut - which eliminated it entirely - permanent. By doing so he would remove all funding for the programs resulting in their bankruptcy and inability to pay any payments at all by 2023.

You can't just list contradictory end points that sound good without further thought. If you remove funding for something, you aren't protecting it. You can't say, "remove funding for social security" and "protect social security" in the same campaign, which is what Maroxad is complaining about.

If you just list feel-good, empty promises without any detail regarding how you intend to get there, you get a contradictory mess like we have here.

You see how this works??

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A list of vague platitudes that really underscore how little was actually accomplished in his first term.

Look, just like in 2016, he is saying some things that sound good in theory (I mean, who's going to argue with lowering perscription drug prices?). But he's already shown us he doesn't know how to make most of this happen.

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DEFEND OUR POLICE

·Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers

·Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers

·Prosecute Drive-By Shootings as Acts of Domestic Terrorism

·Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice

·End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial

Um, fully fund? I'm guessing this is the opposite of the idea of "defund" the police? Like the majority of the content, pretty vague. But okay.

Increase penalities for assaults... here, here.

Prosecute drive bys as acts of terrorism, um, are drive bys politically motivated? Gangs use fear of retaliation to control their areas, but they do not seek anything political. Although, seeing known gang members and probationers/parolees in protests makes me chuckle. It's a stretch though.

Bring violent extremists to justice... Here, here.

End zero bail and keep dangerous criminals locked up... Amen. The fact this is even questioned by some in California is shocking.

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This might be my favourite point there.

·Teach American Exceptionalism

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What a joke. This goes against what he actually does.

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#17  Edited By Drunk_PI
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I chuckled, especially since the Trump Administration has accomplished nothing.

Unless failure is an accomplishment. Even cultists have their limits.

lol

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@comp_atkins said:
@Maroxad said:

No offense, but I found myself laughing at this. It is EXTREMELY vague, sometimes contradictory, and in many ways it shows how little he knows about what powers he even has as a president. This list may as well have been written by a child who for some reason is running for president.

Tim Pool is one of the worst streamers out there, his arguments are garbage. And I am not surprised that a simpleton like Tim Pool is impressed by this.

it reminds me of people running for class president in grammar school.

1) no more homework!

2) pizza for lunch everyday!

Pretty much.

Truly a mad man not fit for office. Completely unrealistic, dishonest, and misleading.

Hopefully people don't buy into the bullshit.

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Give corporations fewer regulations so they can pollute at will ... leads to clean drinking water? Checks out

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#20  Edited By Zaryia
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Tim Pool is a grifter. You may as well link Candice Owens. But uhh.....that's all generic stuff everyone promises....

Jobs, Healthcare, Infastructure, Economy, Covid etc.

Jeezers, Trump already flopped very very badly on the economy, jobs, infastructure, covid, USPS, and healthcare all while ignoring climate change. Why should I give him a second chance?

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@zaryia said:

Tim Pool is a grifter. You may as well link Candice Owens. But uhh.....that's all generic stuff everyone promises....

Jobs, Healthcare, Infastructure, Economy, Covid etc.

Jeezers, Trump already flopped very very badly on the economy, jobs, infastructure, covid, USPS, and healthcare all while ignoring climate change. Why should I give him a second chance?

Let's remember that @jeezers was criticizing Biden's vocal synopsis of his platform for being light on details. When it was pointed out that he had reams of pages detailing his platform, he said they don't count because they're written.

Jeezers, where are Trump's details?

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#22  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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How is he bringing up drain the swamp? That's kind of a negative on his list, he's done nothing but magnified the problem. I'm surprised he wants to highlight this. Did you see all the idiot judges his administration appointed for life? These appointments make up 25% of circuit judges. Not to mention filling his own coffers and not divesting, the nepotism, he's part of the swamp.

"Block Illegal Immigrants from Becoming Eligible for Taxpayer-Funded Welfare, Healthcare, and Free College Tuition"

How is that a plan when it's already the way things are?

"Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home"

IOW stop supporting our allies and stop fostering and upholding democracy abroad, allowing another power to step in and become a world leader. Being viglant and protecting democracy and peace is a never ending job.

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I like how Trump releasing his platform pretty much ended up backfiring everywhere. Just look at the responses in this thread for your first anecdote.

I cant wait to see how the Democrats and the Lincoln Project will tear Trump apart over this.

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@mattbbpl said:

Let's remember that @jeezers was criticizing Biden's vocal synopsis of his platform for being light on details. When it was pointed out that he had reams of pages detailing his platform, he said they don't count because they're written.

Jeezers, where are Trump's details?

Someone should put Elizabeth Warren's plans on his desk and tell them it's his agenda. Lord knows he would never read far enough to know otherwise.

God I wish Warren got the nomination. Look through her plans. Her introductions to each idea is longer than most other candidates entire platform.

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@judaspete said:
@mattbbpl said:

Let's remember that @jeezers was criticizing Biden's vocal synopsis of his platform for being light on details. When it was pointed out that he had reams of pages detailing his platform, he said they don't count because they're written.

Jeezers, where are Trump's details?

Someone should put Elizabeth Warren's plans on his desk and tell them it's his agenda. Lord knows he would never read far enough to know otherwise.

God I wish Warren got the nomination. Look through her plans. Her introductions to each idea is longer than most other candidates entire platform.

Yeah, I like Warren. I think she'll serve quite well in the Senate though, hopefully rubbing some of her wonkiness off on others in the chamber and directly impacting legislation.

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@mattbbpl said:
@zaryia said:

Tim Pool is a grifter. You may as well link Candice Owens. But uhh.....that's all generic stuff everyone promises....

Jobs, Healthcare, Infastructure, Economy, Covid etc.

Jeezers, Trump already flopped very very badly on the economy, jobs, infastructure, covid, USPS, and healthcare all while ignoring climate change. Why should I give him a second chance?

Let's remember that @jeezers was criticizing Biden's vocal synopsis of his platform for being light on details. When it was pointed out that he had reams of pages detailing his platform, he said they don't count because they're written.

Jeezers, where are Trump's details?

He's super partisan. Policy and data barely even matters to him, it's just all about his "team".

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@drunk_pi said:

I chuckled, especially since the Trump Administration has accomplished nothing.

Unless failure is an accomplishment. Even cultists have their limits.

lol

Hey man he made us number 1. Number 1 in covid deaths. See.....he kept his promise.

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@horgen said:

This might be my favourite point there.

·Teach American Exceptionalism

What does that even mean?

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Simple, vague, and contradictory. A perfect platform for Pool and his subscribers.

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Who cares what he says his platform is? It is irrelevant. He could propose the gospel according to SUD123456 and it wouldn't matter.

The man is a pathological liar.

The man literally makes up or changes policy on the basis of what is in his Twitter feed that morning.

The man will chase any random idea whether it is good, bad, or irrelevant to the well being of your country as long as he perceives it to make him look good.

And if that idea meets resistance and he perceives it will make him look bad: it isn't what he meant, he didn't say that, the Democrats are lying, it's a conspiracy against him....or hey look at this new random idea.

You have a lunatic in charge. Some of you should step back and realize that regardless of what he says his policies are he really has none because he has no principles except one....it's good if it strokes his ego.

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#31  Edited By SumPro
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Trumps list should tell you everything. It would be the start to a perfect Country. You would think by now we would live in a perfect country by all the promises made by both parties but corruption, greed and evil is why we are not. Until we are truly a United States of America we will not achieve Presidents Trumps goals.

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Awesome!

It seems like a much more clear and concise plan to keeping America the greatest country in the World than anything the left has.

Trump undeniably kept his promises in his first term - he didn't drag America into any additional wars, started building the wall, and made America's economy as strong as ever.

I appreciate the emphasis on defending our police and military, continuing to promote America, and building for the future.

What is Biden's plan? With pie in the sky ideas like free college, free healthcare, and $15 minimum wage - the only thing he can promise is higher taxes. Oh, and according to Kamala, ending ebola.

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@Watch_My_6 said:

Awesome!

It seems like a much more clear and concise plan to keeping America the greatest country in the World than anything the left has.

Trump undeniably kept his promises in his first term - he didn't drag America into any additional wars, started building the wall, and made America's economy as strong as ever.

I appreciate the emphasis on defending our police and military, continuing to promote America, and building for the future.

What is Biden's plan? With pie in the sky ideas like free college, free healthcare, and $15 minimum wage - the only thing he can promise is higher taxes. Oh, and according to Kamala, ending ebola.

The economy is tanked. Hasn't really built a wall either. Defending the military? He's okay with Russian bounties on our troops.

You do know the trump tax cuts will expire for everyone but the really wealthy right?

Why do I get the feeling you are a plant?

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To the dishonest trumpers of the forum:

What do you think "american exceptionalism" alludes to?

What do you think "globalist swamp" alludes to?

Through how many mental hoops did you have to jump until "stop wars, bring troops home" and "expand military strength, wipe out global terrorists" made sense to you? I wonder if there's, like, a pointless war or something the US has been waging this century to 'defeat evil terrorists' while fucking over entire countries and innocent populations.

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i felt the whole talk was pandering for the vote.

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Bless

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@jeezers: You would vote for a man who created "Space Force"?

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I really hope the protest voters have a think about there voting decision this time.

4 more years of this chaos could be the end of America as we know it.

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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

24% of promises kept, 20% compromised and 49% broken. Are there people who take these promises seriously?

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#40 Maroxad  Online
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@Watch_My_6 Did he really keep his promises though? He broke 49% his promises, compromised another 20% and stalled 5%. Obama for comparison kept almost half of his promises, compromised 27% and broke 23%

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/?ruling=true

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@mattbbpl said:

Let's remember that @jeezers was criticizing Biden's vocal synopsis of his platform for being light on details. When it was pointed out that he had reams of pages detailing his platform, he said they don't count because they're written.

Jeezers, where are Trump's details?

Someone should put Elizabeth Warren's plans on his desk and tell them it's his agenda. Lord knows he would never read far enough to know otherwise.

God I wish Warren got the nomination. Look through her plans. Her introductions to each idea is longer than most other candidates entire platform.

What a comprehensive list :O Seemed like she had the whole thing planned out.

Now I can see why Bernie Sanders practically contacted her, begging her to run for presidency (only to run himself when she said no) in 2016.

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#41 horgen  Moderator
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@THUMPTABLE said:
@horgen said:

This might be my favourite point there.

·Teach American Exceptionalism

What does that even mean?

American exceptionalism is the theory that the history of the United States is inherently different from that of other nations.[2] In this view, American exceptionalism stems from its emergence from the American Revolution, thereby becoming what the political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset called "the first new nation"[3] and developing a uniquely American ideology, "Americanism", based on liberty, equality before the law, individual responsibility, republicanism, representative democracy, and laissez-faire economics. This ideology itself is often referred to as "American exceptionalism."[4] Second is the idea that America has a unique mission to transform the world. As President Abraham Lincoln stated in the Gettysburg address (1863), Americans have a duty to ensure, "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Third is the sense that America's history and its mission give it a superiority over other nations.

According to Wikipedia.

Note I have no issues with being proud of your country, but this is taking it a little further.

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#42  Edited By Zaryia
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@netracing said:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

24% of promises kept, 20% compromised and 49% broken. Are there people who take these promises seriously?

@Watch_My_6 said:

Awesome!

Trump undeniably kept his promises in his first term

Hmm...which post should I believe?

Do Trumpers here understand why they are considered fakeboy or satire accounts a lot of the time?

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#43 Vaasman
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A better thread title might be: pathological liar releases stream of meaningless guff to try and pretend campaign to avoid prison has legitimate value.

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#44 HoolaHoopMan
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At what point does the ruling party and group become the establishment? Trump and co., along with the GOP, have held the reigns for 4 years (longer if you count Congress). Let's face it, Trump IS the establishment now.

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#45 horgen  Moderator
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@zaryia said:
@netracing said:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

24% of promises kept, 20% compromised and 49% broken. Are there people who take these promises seriously?

@Watch_My_6 said:

Awesome!

Trump undeniably kept his promises in his first term

Hmm...which post should I believe?

Do Trumpers here understand why they are considered fakeboy or satire accounts a lot of the time?

Alternative facts. Just deal with it.

“You are a slow learner, Winston."

"How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."

"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”

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#46  Edited By blaznwiipspman1  Online
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mostly sounds like scams, still waiting on the 20ft high 6ft thick concrete wall stretching from florida to california.

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#47  Edited By jeezers
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@sealionact: hey dont sleep on the space force man, I'm stoked about it, just wait, before you know it we will be smoking weed from Mars.

The possibilities are endless.

TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸

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#48 LJS9502_basic  Online
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@jeezers said:

@sealionact: hey dont sleep on the space force man, I'm stoked about it, just wait, before you know it we will be smoking weed from Mars.

The possibilities are endless.

TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸

Yeah we can throw more money at the military but screw the sick people amirite.

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#49 THUMPTABLE
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@horgen said:
@THUMPTABLE said:
@horgen said:

This might be my favourite point there.

·Teach American Exceptionalism

What does that even mean?

American exceptionalism is the theory that the history of the United States is inherently different from that of other nations.[2] In this view, American exceptionalism stems from its emergence from the American Revolution, thereby becoming what the political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset called "the first new nation"[3] and developing a uniquely American ideology, "Americanism", based on liberty, equality before the law, individual responsibility, republicanism, representative democracy, and laissez-faire economics. This ideology itself is often referred to as "American exceptionalism."[4] Second is the idea that America has a unique mission to transform the world. As President Abraham Lincoln stated in the Gettysburg address (1863), Americans have a duty to ensure, "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Third is the sense that America's history and its mission give it a superiority over other nations.

According to Wikipedia.

Note I have no issues with being proud of your country, but this is taking it a little further.

I must admit, they are a bit special...

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#50 warmblur
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So I'm suppose to believe a pathological liar now?