Trump orders national guard to Mexican border.

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#51 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
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This doesn't have to do with compassion. The OP referred them as "invaders" as if they were a military force set to invade our lands, which is why he deserves to be mocked for his stupidity.

The caravan is literally just a bunch of starving men, women, and children who want to get out of Honduras. That's not me being compassionate, that's reality of their situation. They're not invaders.

If they're coming into a country by force, without permission, that is kind of the definition of invader.

and again the first question that comes to my mind is the same question I asked when I was a kid during the 80s about Russians.

WHY? Why are they invading.

and on our other conversation where this is leading is this:

some think its easier to have a war then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

It's not a war if you stop people from coming in. You're blaming somebody's desire to take something on the people that have it, just because they have it.

That's like saying the jews should have changed their lifestyle, because it was too tempting for the nazi's to take it.

really? I was not aware of the fine line between invaders that need a military to stop them from invading and it technically not being a ware because you are successful in stopping them.

but ok fair enough whatever you want to call it I am less concerned with semantics

You're not arguing within reality. When you get questioned, you dodge out.

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#52 Posted by Maroxad (14915 posts) -

This makes a lot more sense than the damn wall.

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#53 Posted by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

If they're coming into a country by force, without permission, that is kind of the definition of invader.

and again the first question that comes to my mind is the same question I asked when I was a kid during the 80s about Russians.

WHY? Why are they invading.

and on our other conversation where this is leading is this:

some think its easier to have a war then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

It's not a war if you stop people from coming in. You're blaming somebody's desire to take something on the people that have it, just because they have it.

That's like saying the jews should have changed their lifestyle, because it was too tempting for the nazi's to take it.

really? I was not aware of the fine line between invaders that need a military to stop them from invading and it technically not being a ware because you are successful in stopping them.

but ok fair enough whatever you want to call it I am less concerned with semantics

You're not arguing within reality. When you get questioned, you dodge out.

no I am serious, take what I said and replace the word 'war' with a different label that accuracy describes what it is and my point still stands the same.

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#54 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

and again the first question that comes to my mind is the same question I asked when I was a kid during the 80s about Russians.

WHY? Why are they invading.

and on our other conversation where this is leading is this:

some think its easier to have a war then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

It's not a war if you stop people from coming in. You're blaming somebody's desire to take something on the people that have it, just because they have it.

That's like saying the jews should have changed their lifestyle, because it was too tempting for the nazi's to take it.

really? I was not aware of the fine line between invaders that need a military to stop them from invading and it technically not being a ware because you are successful in stopping them.

but ok fair enough whatever you want to call it I am less concerned with semantics

You're not arguing within reality. When you get questioned, you dodge out.

no I am serious, take what I said and replace the word 'war' with a different label that accuracy describes what it is and my point still stands the same.

You were talking about war, stop back peddling.

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#55 Edited by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

really? I was not aware of the fine line between invaders that need a military to stop them from invading and it technically not being a ware because you are successful in stopping them.

but ok fair enough whatever you want to call it I am less concerned with semantics

You're not arguing within reality. When you get questioned, you dodge out.

no I am serious, take what I said and replace the word 'war' with a different label that accuracy describes what it is and my point still stands the same.

You were talking about war, stop back peddling.

let me help a bit

some think its easier to have a [what word is appropriate here?] then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

whatever you want to call it, its likely going to not change my point 'miltiary exercise'? same point 'military situation'? same point 'situation'? same point 'altercation'? same point

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#56 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

really? I was not aware of the fine line between invaders that need a military to stop them from invading and it technically not being a ware because you are successful in stopping them.

but ok fair enough whatever you want to call it I am less concerned with semantics

You're not arguing within reality. When you get questioned, you dodge out.

no I am serious, take what I said and replace the word 'war' with a different label that accuracy describes what it is and my point still stands the same.

You were talking about war, stop back peddling.

let me help a bit

some think its easier to have a [what word is appropriate here?] then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

whatever you want to call it, its likely going to not change my point 'miltiary exercise'? same point 'military situation'? same point 'situation'? same point 'altercation'? same point

What the hell are you talking about?

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#57 Edited by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

no I am serious, take what I said and replace the word 'war' with a different label that accuracy describes what it is and my point still stands the same.

You were talking about war, stop back peddling.

let me help a bit

some think its easier to have a [what word is appropriate here?] then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

whatever you want to call it, its likely going to not change my point 'miltiary exercise'? same point 'military situation'? same point 'situation'? same point 'altercation'? same point

What the hell are you talking about?

when our country has wars there is often debates over what to call it 'oh its not a war its an 'engagement'' or whatever.

the point is not in the label, the point is in the illustration of force regardless of what you call it.

so here let me revise what I said.

'some think its easier to have a strong show of military force then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.'

is that better?

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#58 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

no I am serious, take what I said and replace the word 'war' with a different label that accuracy describes what it is and my point still stands the same.

You were talking about war, stop back peddling.

let me help a bit

some think its easier to have a [what word is appropriate here?] then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

whatever you want to call it, its likely going to not change my point 'miltiary exercise'? same point 'military situation'? same point 'situation'? same point 'altercation'? same point

What the hell are you talking about?

when our country has wars there is often debates over what to call it 'oh its not a war its an 'engagement'' or whatever.

the point is not in the label, the point is in the illustration of force regardless of what you call it.

so here let me revise what I said.

'some think its easier to have a strong show of military force then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.'

is that better?

This is the dumbest conversation I've been in, and you've seen my threads.

Lets replace other words while we're at it. That way it's not a debate or conversation and anything can mean anything.

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#59 Posted by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

You were talking about war, stop back peddling.

let me help a bit

some think its easier to have a [what word is appropriate here?] then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

whatever you want to call it, its likely going to not change my point 'miltiary exercise'? same point 'military situation'? same point 'situation'? same point 'altercation'? same point

What the hell are you talking about?

when our country has wars there is often debates over what to call it 'oh its not a war its an 'engagement'' or whatever.

the point is not in the label, the point is in the illustration of force regardless of what you call it.

so here let me revise what I said.

'some think its easier to have a strong show of military force then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.'

is that better?

This is the dumbest conversation I've been in, and you've seen my threads.

Lets replace other words while we're at it. That way it's not a debate or conversation and anything can mean anything.

then I guess we are done.

fair enough, better then usual disagreements lately though.

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#60 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

let me help a bit

some think its easier to have a [what word is appropriate here?] then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.

whatever you want to call it, its likely going to not change my point 'miltiary exercise'? same point 'military situation'? same point 'situation'? same point 'altercation'? same point

What the hell are you talking about?

when our country has wars there is often debates over what to call it 'oh its not a war its an 'engagement'' or whatever.

the point is not in the label, the point is in the illustration of force regardless of what you call it.

so here let me revise what I said.

'some think its easier to have a strong show of military force then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.'

is that better?

This is the dumbest conversation I've been in, and you've seen my threads.

Lets replace other words while we're at it. That way it's not a debate or conversation and anything can mean anything.

then I guess we are done.

fair enough, better then usual disagreements lately though.

We were done when you took a conversation, changed it's meaning, and said words don't mean anything.

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#61 Posted by airraidjet (834 posts) -

Wall + roaming A-10s + National Guard to shore up Boarder Patrol on the ground.

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#62 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (9681 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

remove to motivation to come here, problem solved

?

if an immigrant does not want to come here, then they will not come here

remove the motivation to come here.

not sure I can explain it any more basic

You can't remove the desire to come here.

I get what you're saying, but I'm confused on what you're actually proposing.

here are the top reasons people say immigrants come here

1. to sell drugs

2. to take advantage our welfare

3. to work

remove the loop holes in welfare, have strong punishment against employers who hire illegals, make the process of proving you are legal for employment more clear, either legalize drugs here or remove the desire to want to buy them thru various social programs

Thus people will not come here.

easier than a wall

Why do we not want these immigrants to come here? Without them, we would have a fairly significant labor shortage, especially in the agriculture sector. Apparently republicans are in favor of less regulation, unless that lack of regulation might end up benefiting poor Hispanic people.

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#63 Posted by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

What the hell are you talking about?

when our country has wars there is often debates over what to call it 'oh its not a war its an 'engagement'' or whatever.

the point is not in the label, the point is in the illustration of force regardless of what you call it.

so here let me revise what I said.

'some think its easier to have a strong show of military force then it is to tighen up security around social security cards.'

is that better?

This is the dumbest conversation I've been in, and you've seen my threads.

Lets replace other words while we're at it. That way it's not a debate or conversation and anything can mean anything.

then I guess we are done.

fair enough, better then usual disagreements lately though.

We were done when you took a conversation, changed it's meaning, and said words don't mean anything.

your right, my mistake.

I reallly misspoke and should not have put it that way, I apologize

what I really mean to say is that some think its easier to have a strong show of military force then it is to tighten up security around social security cards.

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#64 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

?

if an immigrant does not want to come here, then they will not come here

remove the motivation to come here.

not sure I can explain it any more basic

You can't remove the desire to come here.

I get what you're saying, but I'm confused on what you're actually proposing.

here are the top reasons people say immigrants come here

1. to sell drugs

2. to take advantage our welfare

3. to work

remove the loop holes in welfare, have strong punishment against employers who hire illegals, make the process of proving you are legal for employment more clear, either legalize drugs here or remove the desire to want to buy them thru various social programs

Thus people will not come here.

easier than a wall

Why do we not want these immigrants to come here? Without them, we would have a fairly significant labor shortage, especially in the agriculture sector. Apparently republicans are in favor of less regulation, unless that lack of regulation might end up benefiting poor Hispanic people.

Nobody has a problem with immigrants. We have a problem with illegal immigration.

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#65 Posted by DrLostRib (4217 posts) -

@airraidjet said:

Wall + roaming A-10s + National Guard to shore up Boarder Patrol on the ground.

why would we burden ourselves with the cost and maintenance of all of those things. And what's the point of having roaming warplanes?

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#66 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (9681 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

if an immigrant does not want to come here, then they will not come here

remove the motivation to come here.

not sure I can explain it any more basic

You can't remove the desire to come here.

I get what you're saying, but I'm confused on what you're actually proposing.

here are the top reasons people say immigrants come here

1. to sell drugs

2. to take advantage our welfare

3. to work

remove the loop holes in welfare, have strong punishment against employers who hire illegals, make the process of proving you are legal for employment more clear, either legalize drugs here or remove the desire to want to buy them thru various social programs

Thus people will not come here.

easier than a wall

Why do we not want these immigrants to come here? Without them, we would have a fairly significant labor shortage, especially in the agriculture sector. Apparently republicans are in favor of less regulation, unless that lack of regulation might end up benefiting poor Hispanic people.

Nobody has a problem with immigrants. We have a problem with illegal immigration.

Unfortunately, we don't admit enough immigrants legally each year to meet our labor demands.

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#67 Posted by Solaryellow (4378 posts) -

@drunk_pi said:

This doesn't have to do with compassion. The OP referred them as "invaders" as if they were a military force set to invade our lands, which is why he deserves to be mocked for his stupidity.

The caravan is literally just a bunch of starving men, women, and children who want to get out of Honduras. That's not me being compassionate, that's reality of their situation. They're not invaders.

Is there a reason they can not lay a foundation in Mexico?

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#68 Posted by Horgen (118378 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

Why do we not want these immigrants to come here? Without them, we would have a fairly significant labor shortage, especially in the agriculture sector. Apparently republicans are in favor of less regulation, unless that lack of regulation might end up benefiting poor Hispanic people.

Agriculture gets more attention than it deserves.. Ok second highest according to this.

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#69 Posted by Horgen (118378 posts) -

@n64dd said:

You can't remove the desire to come here.

I get what you're saying, but I'm confused on what you're actually proposing.

Sorry to butt in so late on this.

To work somewhere. Don't you have to provide bank details to your employer for them to be able to pay you? A bank account you can't get without having a social security number??

Could also connect any kind of benefits to only be given to those who got a social security number.. Aren't you guys doing this already?

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#70 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (9681 posts) -

@horgen said:
@n64dd said:

You can't remove the desire to come here.

I get what you're saying, but I'm confused on what you're actually proposing.

Sorry to butt in so late on this.

To work somewhere. Don't you have to provide bank details to your employer for them to be able to pay you? A bank account you can't get without having a social security number??

Could also connect any kind of benefits to only be given to those who got a social security number.. Aren't you guys doing this already?

Your employer could just give you a check. If they know you are illegal, they might just pay you cash.

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#71 Posted by Horgen (118378 posts) -

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Your employer could just give you a check. If they know you are illegal, they might just pay you cash.

Ah. To be honest, I haven't seen a check as long as I have lived. My country stopped using them decades ago. At least widely used. As for being paid cash. I don't know if it is illegal, but good luck passing a credit check. Also if you wish to deposit the money yourself to your account, you will at least garner the interest of the banks own whitewashing unit and quite possible the police as well. Put it short: Cash isn't king anymore here.

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#72 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (9681 posts) -

@horgen said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

Your employer could just give you a check. If they know you are illegal, they might just pay you cash.

Ah. To be honest, I haven't seen a check as long as I have lived. My country stopped using them decades ago. At least widely used. As for being paid cash. I don't know if it is illegal, but good luck passing a credit check. Also if you wish to deposit the money yourself to your account, you will at least garner the interest of the banks own whitewashing unit and quite possible the police as well. Put it short: Cash isn't king anymore here.

It's not ideal, but if you are undocumented, you have to make the most of the options available to you. Cash would be the best by far because if you receive a paycheck, you would be taxed with no way of getting a refund and no way of ever benefiting from the social security/medicare you would be charged. You would also need to actually have a bank account (can be difficult to come by as an illegal) to either deposit or cash your paycheck without being raped by fees. You would probably need to find an employer who is fully aware that you are working illegally for them to actually agree to pay you under the table with cash, though. I think most of the people who get paid cash probably work odd seasonal jobs. I'm not sure how well it would work long-term.

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#73 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

You can't remove the desire to come here.

I get what you're saying, but I'm confused on what you're actually proposing.

here are the top reasons people say immigrants come here

1. to sell drugs

2. to take advantage our welfare

3. to work

remove the loop holes in welfare, have strong punishment against employers who hire illegals, make the process of proving you are legal for employment more clear, either legalize drugs here or remove the desire to want to buy them thru various social programs

Thus people will not come here.

easier than a wall

Why do we not want these immigrants to come here? Without them, we would have a fairly significant labor shortage, especially in the agriculture sector. Apparently republicans are in favor of less regulation, unless that lack of regulation might end up benefiting poor Hispanic people.

Nobody has a problem with immigrants. We have a problem with illegal immigration.

Unfortunately, we don't admit enough immigrants legally each year to meet our labor demands.

i'm with you, but there are health issues as well.

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#75 Posted by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@tryit said:

here are the top reasons people say immigrants come here

1. to sell drugs

2. to take advantage our welfare

3. to work

remove the loop holes in welfare, have strong punishment against employers who hire illegals, make the process of proving you are legal for employment more clear, either legalize drugs here or remove the desire to want to buy them thru various social programs

Thus people will not come here.

easier than a wall

Why do we not want these immigrants to come here? Without them, we would have a fairly significant labor shortage, especially in the agriculture sector. Apparently republicans are in favor of less regulation, unless that lack of regulation might end up benefiting poor Hispanic people.

Nobody has a problem with immigrants. We have a problem with illegal immigration.

Unfortunately, we don't admit enough immigrants legally each year to meet our labor demands.

i'm with you, but there are health issues as well.

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

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#76 Posted by Drunk_PI (2711 posts) -

@Solaryellow said:
@drunk_pi said:

This doesn't have to do with compassion. The OP referred them as "invaders" as if they were a military force set to invade our lands, which is why he deserves to be mocked for his stupidity.

The caravan is literally just a bunch of starving men, women, and children who want to get out of Honduras. That's not me being compassionate, that's reality of their situation. They're not invaders.

Is there a reason they can not lay a foundation in Mexico?

They already have. Some will continue northbound. Central Americans have always attempted to flee violence from the region and Mexico has usually halted their migration north.

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#77 Edited by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:

Nobody has a problem with immigrants. We have a problem with illegal immigration.

Unfortunately, we don't admit enough immigrants legally each year to meet our labor demands.

i'm with you, but there are health issues as well.

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

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#78 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165010 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:

Nobody has a problem with immigrants. We have a problem with illegal immigration.

Unfortunately, we don't admit enough immigrants legally each year to meet our labor demands.

i'm with you, but there are health issues as well.

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

Zika comes from mosquitoes and has hit some of the states.

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#79 Edited by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

Unfortunately, we don't admit enough immigrants legally each year to meet our labor demands.

i'm with you, but there are health issues as well.

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

that is not what I am asking.

I am not asking if the claim is valid or not, I am asking where did you hear about it lately.

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#80 Posted by Horgen (118378 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

It's not ideal, but if you are undocumented, you have to make the most of the options available to you. Cash would be the best by far because if you receive a paycheck, you would be taxed with no way of getting a refund and no way of ever benefiting from the social security/medicare you would be charged. You would also need to actually have a bank account (can be difficult to come by as an illegal) to either deposit or cash your paycheck without being raped by fees. You would probably need to find an employer who is fully aware that you are working illegally for them to actually agree to pay you under the table with cash, though. I think most of the people who get paid cash probably work odd seasonal jobs. I'm not sure how well it would work long-term.

Illegal here and you can't get a bank account. As for cash... Not the safest method for either party really.

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#81 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165010 posts) -

@horgen said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

It's not ideal, but if you are undocumented, you have to make the most of the options available to you. Cash would be the best by far because if you receive a paycheck, you would be taxed with no way of getting a refund and no way of ever benefiting from the social security/medicare you would be charged. You would also need to actually have a bank account (can be difficult to come by as an illegal) to either deposit or cash your paycheck without being raped by fees. You would probably need to find an employer who is fully aware that you are working illegally for them to actually agree to pay you under the table with cash, though. I think most of the people who get paid cash probably work odd seasonal jobs. I'm not sure how well it would work long-term.

Illegal here and you can't get a bank account. As for cash... Not the safest method for either party really.

Lots of employers pay employees under the table including citizens.

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#82 Edited by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

i'm with you, but there are health issues as well.

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

Zika comes from mosquitoes and has hit some of the states.

Yes sir. Look at the outbreak map in Mexico though.

@tryit A week ago at Henry Ford hospitals in Detroit from people working there, treating people. Tuberculosis is coming back through Central America. They don't have vaccines for a lot of stuff down there, hence why you need a lot of shots and are not supposed to drink the water when you're in Mexico.

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#83 Edited by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

Zika comes from mosquitoes and has hit some of the states.

Yes sir. Look at the outbreak map in Mexico though.

again..

what inspired you to look at the outbreak maps in mexico to have that knowledge.

people dont just wake up one morning randomly and say 'gee I wonder if immigrants are coming here with illnesses'

so where did you hear about this? why havent we heard this talking point until lately?

ah nevermind, after doing some research I found my answer...it came from Trump. now where did he get it from I dont know yet but working on it

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#84 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

Zika comes from mosquitoes and has hit some of the states.

Yes sir. Look at the outbreak map in Mexico though.

again..

what inspired you to look at the outbreak maps in mexico to have that knowledge.

people dont just wake up one morning randomly and say 'gee I wonder if immigrants are coming here with illnesses'

so where did you hear about this? why havent we heard this talking point until lately?

I travel internationally a lot for work. My company which is one of the larger car companies was told it was not safe to send people to Mexico for a month. I have to keep track of CDC to know if I can travel to a site or not.

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#85 Posted by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

Zika comes from mosquitoes and has hit some of the states.

Yes sir. Look at the outbreak map in Mexico though.

again..

what inspired you to look at the outbreak maps in mexico to have that knowledge.

people dont just wake up one morning randomly and say 'gee I wonder if immigrants are coming here with illnesses'

so where did you hear about this? why havent we heard this talking point until lately?

I travel internationally a lot for work. My company which is one of the larger car companies was told it was not safe to send people to Mexico for a month. I have to keep track of CDC to know if I can travel to a site or not.

so this is something you have known for a good amount time now.

right?

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#86 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Zika comes from mosquitoes and has hit some of the states.

Yes sir. Look at the outbreak map in Mexico though.

again..

what inspired you to look at the outbreak maps in mexico to have that knowledge.

people dont just wake up one morning randomly and say 'gee I wonder if immigrants are coming here with illnesses'

so where did you hear about this? why havent we heard this talking point until lately?

I travel internationally a lot for work. My company which is one of the larger car companies was told it was not safe to send people to Mexico for a month. I have to keep track of CDC to know if I can travel to a site or not.

so this is something you have known for a good amount time now.

right?

Yup.

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#87 Posted by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

Yes sir. Look at the outbreak map in Mexico though.

again..

what inspired you to look at the outbreak maps in mexico to have that knowledge.

people dont just wake up one morning randomly and say 'gee I wonder if immigrants are coming here with illnesses'

so where did you hear about this? why havent we heard this talking point until lately?

I travel internationally a lot for work. My company which is one of the larger car companies was told it was not safe to send people to Mexico for a month. I have to keep track of CDC to know if I can travel to a site or not.

so this is something you have known for a good amount time now.

right?

Yup.

so why are you just bringing it up now?

the debate of immigrants has been around for years. why are we having this conversation about disease just now?

I havent been able to find a good answer on the internet, it appears its been a subject for several years but for some reason I have only heard about it now, from you guys

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#88 Posted by raugutcon (5451 posts) -

@Gaming-Planet: where did I say that Mexicans were only good for that ? You got to work on those reading comprehension skills pal, read again.

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#89 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

again..

what inspired you to look at the outbreak maps in mexico to have that knowledge.

people dont just wake up one morning randomly and say 'gee I wonder if immigrants are coming here with illnesses'

so where did you hear about this? why havent we heard this talking point until lately?

I travel internationally a lot for work. My company which is one of the larger car companies was told it was not safe to send people to Mexico for a month. I have to keep track of CDC to know if I can travel to a site or not.

so this is something you have known for a good amount time now.

right?

Yup.

so why are you just bringing it up now?

the debate of immigrants has been around for years. why are we having this conversation about disease just now?

I havent been able to find a good answer on the internet, it appears its been a subject for several years but for some reason I have only heard about it now, from you guys

I have before.

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#90 Posted by TryIt (12082 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

I travel internationally a lot for work. My company which is one of the larger car companies was told it was not safe to send people to Mexico for a month. I have to keep track of CDC to know if I can travel to a site or not.

so this is something you have known for a good amount time now.

right?

Yup.

so why are you just bringing it up now?

the debate of immigrants has been around for years. why are we having this conversation about disease just now?

I havent been able to find a good answer on the internet, it appears its been a subject for several years but for some reason I have only heard about it now, from you guys

I have before.

ok fair enough, and my research backs up that it has been a thing for awhile.

just never hit my radar until yesterday

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#91 Posted by DrLostRib (4217 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:

i'm with you, but there are health issues as well.

when did that new meme start?

the 'we have to keep them out because of illnesses' meme?

I havent heard of that one until today

Go on the CDC site and read about all the shots you need to get that they don't have down there. Read about Zika and how widespread it is down there, and the effects it can have on pregnant women. I have friends that are doctors and nurses in Detroit that have to deal with this shit.

Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's a meme.

Zika comes from mosquitoes and has hit some of the states.

Yes sir. Look at the outbreak map in Mexico though.

@tryit A week ago at Henry Ford hospitals in Detroit from people working there, treating people. Tuberculosis is coming back through Central America. They don't have vaccines for a lot of stuff down there, hence why you need a lot of shots and are not supposed to drink the water when you're in Mexico.

They do have vaccines and immunization policies for TB in south and central america. The US actually does not vaccinate for TB

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#92 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (9681 posts) -

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

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#93 Posted by Jacanuk (16496 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

Nah, we need a wall to keep out those illegals who do not give a shit about law and order.

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#94 Posted by DrLostRib (4217 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

Nah, we need a wall to keep out those illegals who do not give a shit about law and order.

better hope they don't bring a rope

“Once they get up there,” he said, “there will be no way to get down. Well, maybe a rope"

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#95 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (9681 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

Nah, we need a wall to keep out those illegals who do not give a shit about law and order.

They don't seem to be causing any problems, really.

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#96 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

You people don't think whatsoever.

@tryit It's a large issue that nobody really thinks about.

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#97 Posted by Jacanuk (16496 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:
@Jacanuk said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

Nah, we need a wall to keep out those illegals who do not give a shit about law and order.

They don't seem to be causing any problems, really.

That is a matter of opinions.

But they are breaking the law by simply being here and that is enough.

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#98 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165010 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@Jacanuk said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

Nah, we need a wall to keep out those illegals who do not give a shit about law and order.

They don't seem to be causing any problems, really.

That is a matter of opinions.

But they are breaking the law by simply being here and that is enough.

Americans break laws all the time too. And I'm not talking criminals. Watch how people drive.

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#99 Posted by N64DD (10755 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@Jacanuk said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

We need a wall to keep the Mexican mosquitoes out, apparently.

Nah, we need a wall to keep out those illegals who do not give a shit about law and order.

They don't seem to be causing any problems, really.

That is a matter of opinions.

But they are breaking the law by simply being here and that is enough.

Americans break laws all the time too. And I'm not talking criminals. Watch how people drive.

They are not breaking a law by just being here. I know there are some that are not legal, aren't here illegally. I'm talking in general.

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#100 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165010 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:

That is a matter of opinions.

But they are breaking the law by simply being here and that is enough.

Americans break laws all the time too. And I'm not talking criminals. Watch how people drive.

They are not breaking a law by just being here. I know there are some that are not legal, aren't here illegally. I'm talking in general.

Breaking the law is breaking the law. You either follow it or you don't. There is no gray area but nice deflection try. At least the effort was there even if the logic was not.