Trump answers Netanyahu bombshell on Iran: ‘Not an acceptable situation’

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/30/trump-answers-netanyahu-bombshell-on-iran-not-acceptable-situation.html

I don't know who else is reporting on this but it's worth a read. I never trusted Iran to fulfill their agreement, and knew Obama gave them a shit load of money and looked like a fool.

President Trump called the Iran nuclear deal a “horrible agreement for the United States” in response to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's bombshell allegations about Tehran's covert activity – but stopped short of saying whether he'd abandon the deal ahead of a looming deadline.

The president addressed the claims during a Rose Garden press conference Monday afternoon, moments after Netanyahu held a dramatic presentation revealing intelligence he says shows Iran is lying about its nuclear weapons program.

“That is just not an acceptable situation,” Trump said.

Trump said Netanyahu’s claims show Iran is “not sitting back idly."

Netanyahu on nuclear deal: Iran lied, big time

"They're setting off missiles which they say are for television purposes," Trump said. He added: "I don't think so.”

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders responded, “The United States is aware of the information just released by Israel and continues to examine it carefully. This information provides new and compelling details about Iran’s efforts to develop missile-deliverable nuclear weapons. These facts are consistent with what the United States has long known: Iran has a robust, clandestine nuclear weapons program that it has tried and failed to hide from the world and from its own people. The Iranian regime has shown it will use destructive weapons against its neighbors and others. Iran must never have nuclear weapons.”

Trump has repeatedly expressed a desire to exit the Iran deal, which was signed during the Obama administration. A crucial deadline for re-certifying the deal is on the horizon.

Netanyahu clearly intended for Trump to see his presentation, as he noted that Trump would soon make a key decision on the Iran deal.

“I’m sure he’ll do the right thing,” Netanyahu said.

On Monday, Trump suggested he could seek to negotiate a new agreement, something he discussed during French President Emmanuel Macron’s visit to Washington last week.

“So we'll see what happens,” Trump said, when asked about the announcement. “I'm not telling you what I'm doing. [A lot] of people think they know. And on or before the 12th, we'll make a decision.”

The president made the comments during a joint press conference with visiting Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari.

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#2 mandzilla  Moderator
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Since when does Netanyahu have any credibility, or Trump for that matter.

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#3 tjandmia
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Both of these clowns are idiots. Every indication tells us that Iran is following through on its promises.

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@tjandmia said:

Both of these clowns are idiots. Every indication tells us that Iran is following through on its promises.

If you have evidence of that it would be all kinds of neat if you gave it to folks.

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#5  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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The IAEA has said almost ten times that Iran is complying with the deal. Netanyahu is a corrupt warmonger with no credibility.

Breaking off one nuclear deal while trying to negotiate another is bonkers. No one is going to trust the US after it keeps going back on its promises and deals.

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Trump is a bombastic buffoon obsessed with ratings, and Netanyahu is a manipulative, lying hawk. Not a good combination to be playing at world police.

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@joebones5000 said:
@kittennose said:
@tjandmia said:

Both of these clowns are idiots. Every indication tells us that Iran is following through on its promises.

If you have evidence of that it would be all kinds of neat if you gave it to folks.

The IAEA, the UN. Clearly, you just aren't paying attention.

Got some links to the evidence?

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A couple of walking bags of human feces spewing feces everywhere. No reason anyone should care what either of them says, except for the fact that they've both managed to con their ways to the top of two nuclear-armed governments.

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I loved the presentation, with the PowerPoint and the new empty folders. Maybe truth, but it definitely shady af.

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#11 Maroxad
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Yeah... no.

I don't trust either of these scumbags. And I have no evidence convincing me that what they are presenting is the case.

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#12  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Netanyahu is just your typical colonist.

The whole point of the Iran deal is to regulate Iran's nuclear energy. Remove it and then what, what diplomacy do you have left on table? More sanctions and bombs?

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@kittennose said:

Got some links to the evidence?

Read under covert activity. Or latest report from IAEA, read under section C2: Activities related to enrichment and fuel.

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@horgen said:
@kittennose said:

Got some links to the evidence?

Read under covert activity. Or latest report from IAEA, read under section C2: Activities related to enrichment and fuel.

Thanks for doing the work for that other poster!

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@kittennose: yes, we all have links to the evidence. ieae.org

Maybe if you weren't so purposefully ignorant, you would have already known this as it is common knowledge.

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@tjandmia said:

@kittennose: yes, we all have links to the evidence. ieae.org

Maybe if you weren't so purposefully ignorant, you would have already known this as it is common knowledge.

Asking for evidence is always a good idea. If you consider it offensive it is you that has the issue. Have fun insulting people over nothing!

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@kittennose said:
@horgen said:
@kittennose said:

Got some links to the evidence?

Read under covert activity. Or latest report from IAEA, read under section C2: Activities related to enrichment and fuel.

Thanks for doing the work for that other poster!

to be fair you could have also looked it up

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@tryit said:

to be fair you could have also looked it up

Not taking the bait.

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@kittennose said:
@tryit said:

to be fair you could have also looked it up

Not taking the bait.

I see

@kittennose said:

Thanks for doing the work for that other poster!

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In December 2015, IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano presented the Final Assessment on past and present outstanding issues regarding Iran’s nuclear programme to the IAEA Board of Governors.

In the report, the Agency assessed that, before the end of 2003, an organizational structure was in place in Iran suitable for the coordination of a range of activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device. Although some activities took place after 2003, they were not part of a coordinated effort. The Agency’s overall assessment was that a range of activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device were conducted in Iran prior to the end of 2003 as a coordinated effort, and some activities took place after 2003. The Agency also assessed that these activities did not advance beyond feasibility and scientific studies, and the acquisition of certain relevant technical competences and capabilities. The same report stated that the Agency had no credible indications of activities in Iran relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device after 2009. Based on the Director General’s report, the Board of Governors declared that its consideration of this issue was closed.

In line with standard IAEA practice, the IAEA evaluates all safeguards-relevant information available to it. However, it is not the practice of the IAEA to publicly discuss issues related to any such information.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/statement-on-iran-by-the-iaea-spokesperson

OP, Bibi, and Trump made to look like morons yet again.

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maybe in a few more decades they'll be right.

https://www.salon.com/2010/12/05/israeli_predictions_iranian_nukes/

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@joebones5000 said:
@kittennose said:
@tjandmia said:

@kittennose: yes, we all have links to the evidence. ieae.org

Maybe if you weren't so purposefully ignorant, you would have already known this as it is common knowledge.

Asking for evidence is always a good idea. If you consider it offensive it is you that has the issue. Have fun insulting people over nothing!

No one is offended and no one has insulted you. You were ignorant of common knowledge. That's your fault.

Such a doof

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@joebones5000 said:
@kittennose said:

Such a doof

Says the snowflake. You can't make this stuff up, folks...

Snowflake? You must be hopped up on goofballs.

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@joebones5000 said:
@kittennose said:

Snowflake? You must be hopped up on goofballs.

Snowflake.

Okay silly person.

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@joebones5000 said:

Alright, snowflake. You have been schooled and are no longer ignorant of such common knowledge. You and everyone else around you is better for it. You are welcome!

You really are a goof.

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#30  Edited By vl4d_l3nin
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@Gaming-Planet said:

Netanyahu is just your typical colonist.

The whole point of the Iran deal is to regulate Iran's nuclear energy. Remove it and then what, what diplomacy do you have left on table? More sanctions and bombs?

Supporting revolutionary groups in combination with sanctions.

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#31  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@vl4d_l3nin: hahahaha

What could possibly go wrong with supporting regime change in Iran? Iran isn’t Iraq or Libya, they are a major Middle East power. The Iran Nuclear Deal is the only thing stopping them from getting a nuclear weapon.

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#32  Edited By vl4d_l3nin
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@perfect_blue: That's absurdly pessimistic. Egypt, Jordan, Israel, and Saudi Arabia have an informal alliance of common interests to prevent that from happening. Iran's role in the coalition with Russia is pretty minimal, and Russia has been distancing themselves militarily from Iran since the sanctions in 2010. The only real ally Iran has had in decades is Syria. We should we support regimes that cannot get along with anyone?

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#33 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@vl4d_l3nin said:

@perfect_blue: That's absurdly pessimistic. Egypt, Jordan, Israel, and Saudi Arabia have an informal alliance of common interests to prevent that from happening. Iran's role in the coalition with Russia is pretty minimal, and Russia has been distancing themselves militarily from Iran since the sanctions in 2010. The only real ally Iran has had in decades is Syria. We should we support regimes that cannot get along with anyone?

It's not pessimistic, it's true. The very existence of the Iran Deal tells you those alliances aren't enough.

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@joebones5000 said:
@kittennose said:
@joebones5000 said:

Alright, snowflake. You have been schooled and are no longer ignorant of such common knowledge. You and everyone else around you is better for it. You are welcome!

You really are a goof.

Alright, snowflake. You just keep on replying to make yourself feel better.

Oh you are one of those folks who enjoys being the 'last person standing.' Okay, feel free to be all silly and call me a snowflake again. I will let you have your little victory.

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@perfect_blue said:
@vl4d_l3nin said:

@perfect_blue: That's absurdly pessimistic. Egypt, Jordan, Israel, and Saudi Arabia have an informal alliance of common interests to prevent that from happening. Iran's role in the coalition with Russia is pretty minimal, and Russia has been distancing themselves militarily from Iran since the sanctions in 2010. The only real ally Iran has had in decades is Syria. We should we support regimes that cannot get along with anyone?

It's not pessimistic, it's true. The very existence of the Iran Deal tells you those alliances aren't enough.

That makes no sense. Saudi Arabia's interests have only been relevant well after the Iran steal. It wasn't until the reforms made by their new Crown Prince that they showed any real interest. Hell, just a couple days ago the guy told Palestinians to negotiate with Trump and Netenyahu, or shut up and stop complaining. This is obviously very different time than it was just a few years ago

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@vl4d_l3nin: what? Iran and Saudi Arabia have been enemies for quite a long time. You know, the whole Shiite vs Sunni thing? It was in Saudi Arabia’s interests a long time ago. What is correct is MBS wanting closer ties with Israel to combat Iran, yes.

In any case, none of this is an argument for dismantling the deal so I’m not really sure what point you are even trying to make.

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Not sure what Netanyahu was trying to accomplish other than to make himself look like a moron (again). I mean how could he expect to say nothing new and claim it as significant when all sorts of groups already possess the exact information that he is regurgitating? He should have just made a scary YouTube video with blacked out faces and eerie music...would have been more effective. Plenty of geniuses on this board could have given him better advice on how to YouTube troll.

I also find it ironic that the head of a state that had its own clandestine nuclear program and has never come clean with its own situation is so obsessed with another state doing the same. The Iranians lied in the past. How shocking! The hypocrisy makes me laugh.

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https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article/evm9k7/heres-a-guide-to-all-the-netanyahu-corruption-scandals

here is one of the MANY things wrong with Benjamin Netanyahu

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#41  Edited By TryIt
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@perfect_blue said:

The IAEA has said almost ten times that Iran is complying with the deal. Netanyahu is a corrupt warmonger with no credibility.

Breaking off one nuclear deal while trying to negotiate another is bonkers. No one is going to trust the US after it keeps going back on its promises and deals.

reminds me of the weapon inspectors in Iraq constantly saying

'umm guys...there is not WMDs in Iraq'

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@tryit said:
@perfect_blue said:

The IAEA has said almost ten times that Iran is complying with the deal. Netanyahu is a corrupt warmonger with no credibility.

Breaking off one nuclear deal while trying to negotiate another is bonkers. No one is going to trust the US after it keeps going back on its promises and deals.

reminds me of the weapon inspectors in Iraq constantly saying

'umm guys...there is not WMDs in Iraq'

"Yes there are"

-United States

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This is Iraq all over again.

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@tryit said:
@perfect_blue said:

The IAEA has said almost ten times that Iran is complying with the deal. Netanyahu is a corrupt warmonger with no credibility.

Breaking off one nuclear deal while trying to negotiate another is bonkers. No one is going to trust the US after it keeps going back on its promises and deals.

reminds me of the weapon inspectors in Iraq constantly saying

'umm guys...there is not WMDs in Iraq'

"Yes there are"

-United States

I'm happy that we can look back on the Bush era and laugh. Also cry. And not learn anything from it

The 'we miss Bush' craze I am proud to say I am not a member of.

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@tryit said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@tryit said:
@perfect_blue said:

The IAEA has said almost ten times that Iran is complying with the deal. Netanyahu is a corrupt warmonger with no credibility.

Breaking off one nuclear deal while trying to negotiate another is bonkers. No one is going to trust the US after it keeps going back on its promises and deals.

reminds me of the weapon inspectors in Iraq constantly saying

'umm guys...there is not WMDs in Iraq'

"Yes there are"

-United States

I'm happy that we can look back on the Bush era and laugh. Also cry. And not learn anything from it

The 'we miss Bush' craze I am proud to say I am not a member of.

i'm sure there are thousands of dead americans who can say the same thing