Trump admin "there is nothing wrong about working with Russia"

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#1 Posted by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

Here we are. Come full circle. Less than three days after the Mueller report has been released, the Trump admin has gone from we didn't work with Russia, to it's ok to work with Russia.

It literally took three days to change the narrative and gaslight the American public.

Amazing.

There is no truth. Only trump.

Trump has risen.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/giuliani-fires-back-at-romney-on-cnn-theres-nothing-wrong-with-taking-information-from-russians/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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#2 Posted by Zaryia (9067 posts) -

While it didn't rise to the level of criminal conspiracy, a lot of the collusion or attempted collusion noted in the report is down right disgusting.

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#3 Posted by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@zaryia: Trump never said he didn't work with Russia. They always worked with Russia.

There is nothing wrong with working with Russia

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#4 Posted by uninspiredcup (33754 posts) -

What a bad man.

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#5 Posted by Serraph105 (33863 posts) -
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#6 Posted by Serraph105 (33863 posts) -

Russia took Trump's advice less than 24 hours after Trump said this on national tv according to the Mueller report.

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#7 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (7207 posts) -

Agreed, nothing wrong with working with Russia. Trump is right about that. The Democrats are just scamming, so are the centrist warmongers.

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#8 Edited by npiet1 (2329 posts) -

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

Agreed, nothing wrong with working with Russia. Trump is right about that. The Democrats are just scamming, so are the centrist warmongers.

This, The USA and Russia have done some great things together like the ISS, or do people not relies this?

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#9 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166643 posts) -

@npiet1 said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

Agreed, nothing wrong with working with Russia. Trump is right about that. The Democrats are just scamming, so are the centrist warmongers.

This, The USA and Russia have done some great things together like the ISS, or do people not relies this?

Disgusting how you can condone Russian interference in elections with the president's consent. Disgusting.

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#10 Posted by Sevenizz (3914 posts) -

@Nuck81: You didn’t get what he meant. I think you’re still in denial that Trump is guilty of Russian collusion when there simply is none. Look up the Steel Dossier. It was literally an entire fabrication by the Democrats to oust a sitting president. Problem is that you actually need something to have happen in order to impeach. Democrats have never figured this one out.

Russia is still a superpower so you still have to do business with them.

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#11 Posted by npiet1 (2329 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic: there's no proof that that happened and that's not what I ment. There is no issue with Russia and the USA working together. It should be encouraged. Is the ISS bad or wrong?

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#12 Posted by nintendoboy16 (36351 posts) -

That'd be true if it was a defector of Putin.

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#13 Edited by Zaryia (9067 posts) -
@npiet1 said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

Agreed, nothing wrong with working with Russia. Trump is right about that. The Democrats are just scamming, so are the centrist warmongers.

This, The USA and Russia have done some great things together like the ISS, or do people not relies this?

Lmao what is this nonsense.

They aren't talking about working with Russia for some type of diplomacy. Rudy is talking about receiving campaign aid by a hostile foreign power. The report shows dirty behavior and it's damning.

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#14 Edited by Zaryia (9067 posts) -
@Sevenizz said:

@Nuck81: You didn’t get what he meant. I think you’re still in denial that Trump is guilty of Russian collusion when there simply is none. Look up the Steel Dossier. It was literally an entire fabrication by the Democrats to oust a sitting president. Problem is that you actually need something to have happen in order to impeach. Democrats have never figured this one out.

Russia is still a superpower so you still have to do business with them.

No one here or on this Rudy reporting said he's guilty of criminal conspiracy to collude.

People are now just noting the politically damaging remarks and actions he made on collusion, as documented in the 400+ pages. He really wanted to collude and they did collude (albeit not enough for it to rise to a crime). Rudy's latest remarks further display their willingness to receive aid as was shown in the report.

It doesn't have to be illegal to be harmful.

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#15 Posted by Treflis (13645 posts) -

When it comes to international issues that requires diplomatic cooperation among a vast number of nations, then no there's nothing wrong with it.

When it comes to trying to accept help or information to affect one's election, then I would say it's wrong irregardless of which nation offers it.

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#16 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (10797 posts) -

@npiet1 said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

Agreed, nothing wrong with working with Russia. Trump is right about that. The Democrats are just scamming, so are the centrist warmongers.

This, The USA and Russia have done some great things together like the ISS, or do people not relies this?

The quote isn't about 'working together', it's 'taking information' from Russia. The context of the quote is surrounding obtaining information to damage political opponents, not collaborative project efforts between nations.

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#17 Edited by npiet1 (2329 posts) -

@zaryia:@HoolaHoopMan: Yeah I quoted the wrong person :/

@zaryia If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?

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#18 Posted by warmblur (2553 posts) -

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#19 Posted by mattbbpl (17250 posts) -

@npiet1: "If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?"

Because Republicans have abandoned all ethics and morals.

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#20 Posted by Jacanuk (18616 posts) -
@npiet1 said:

@zaryia:@HoolaHoopMan: Yeah I quoted the wrong person :/

@zaryia If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?

The report is not that damaging, the problem is people on this board on the far-left and Democrats have spent so much time convincing themselves that Trump is a Russian spy that nothing, not even a complete "no collusion" from Mueller can convince them otherwise.

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#21 Posted by Zaryia (9067 posts) -
@Jacanuk said:
@npiet1 said:

@zaryia:@HoolaHoopMan: Yeah I quoted the wrong person :/

@zaryia If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?

The report is not that damaging,

Trump, and even some Republicans, disagree with you.

He's been fuming about it all week.

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#22 Posted by npiet1 (2329 posts) -

@mattbbpl said:

@npiet1: "If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?"

Because Republicans have abandoned all ethics and morals.

Yeah that's the reason.... lol

@Jacanuk said:
@npiet1 said:

@zaryia:@HoolaHoopMan: Yeah I quoted the wrong person :/

@zaryia If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?

The report is not that damaging, the problem is people on this board on the far-left and Democrats have spent so much time convincing themselves that Trump is a Russian spy that nothing, not even a complete "no collusion" from Mueller can convince them otherwise.

Yeah that's what I thought. They been after trump for 4 years and still nothing.

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#23 Posted by Jacanuk (18616 posts) -

@zaryia:

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#24 Edited by npiet1 (2329 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:
@npiet1 said:

@zaryia:@HoolaHoopMan: Yeah I quoted the wrong person :/

@zaryia If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?

The report is not that damaging,

Trump, and even some Republicans, disagree with you.

He's been fuming about it all week.

Has he? https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trump-claims-victory-after-mueller-report-says-media-owes-him-an-apology/news-story/a959bbbcf61321820ecfef517935f538

Even vox a very left site chooses its words carefully to suggest but confirms no conclusion: https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18485602/mueller-report-findings-obstruction-russia-collusion

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#25 Edited by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: What would you rather us do? I mean of all the nations to work with wouldn't it be great to get along with arguably the second or third most powerful nation in the world?

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#26 Posted by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

Just Remember:

Benghazi: 950 days, 0 indictments, 0 charges

Mueller: 674 days, 37 indictments, 199 charges With 14 Investigations spawned and still ongoing. Found 11 instances of likely obstruction.

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#27 Edited by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: I can appreciate the deflection with you being intentionally obtuse.

You know exactly the context this is referring too.

But hey man, work with what you got, even if you don't have much.

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#28 Edited by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: Its not a deflection. We have meddled in their elections in the past are you that ignorant to think otherwise? You act like this is the first time this has ever happened. And at the end of the day what did they do? Leak news about a candidate that was actually true. And because that truth was what caused her to lose the election your blaming the Russians? Lmao!

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#29 Edited by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: thank you for coming full circle and validating this thread.

Not much of a chess player I take it?

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#30 Edited by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: You haven't validated anything. You spend so much time throwing shit at the walls with Hope's something sticks and then act as if you're some tactical genius. Your crybabies nothing more.

I have always said from day 1 we should try to work with Russia. So if you can catch me in a contradiction then maybe you'll have something.

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#31 Posted by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: *you're.

And I love how you keep moving the goalposts. But like I said, when you have tiny hands, you work with what you have.

You know we are not talking about general international cooperation, but interference in a free election process.

I guess you'd be ok with democrats working with china to throw an election in exchange for political favors right?

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#32 Posted by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: Already fixed it before you responded.

They didn't interfere in a free election process. Did they hack voting booths? No they didn't. They exposed information, information that wasn't supposed to be public but happened to all be true. Ask yourself what's worse? That the DNC rigged the election? Or that you found out about it from the Russians? You're a real shoot the messenger type of guy I see.

Meanwhile you had left wing media constantly trying to influence an election but it was ok because these liberal elite billionaires live in the US?

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#33 Posted by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: there is literally a document that was released last week, that lays out every instance of how Russians and the Trump campaign influenced the election.

Rather than read that yourself, you choose to parrot talking points, move goalposts, and deflect.

You really need to get better at this

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#34 Edited by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: None of which was worthy of criminal charges. Continue to cry more some of us will just keep enjoying life.

In other words most people that care are enraged leftist.

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#35 Edited by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: In other words most people that care are enraged leftist.

Proof?

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#36 Posted by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: You're proof... everybody making threads is proof. The entire Democratic party is proof as they have moved on from this and are now trying to find something in his financial statements. They wanted this to prove something for impeachment... it didn't do that so now all they can do is bitch about it.

I find it hilarious! The meltdown on election night was epic but I honestly didn't think it would be constant everyday for the entire four years but it seems that's what its going to be. I don't even like the guy that much but I'm glad I voted for him and will gladly do it again if it makes the worse part of America so upset.

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#37 Edited by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero:

oh cool. So you just make up whatever shit you want?

Yeah. You see that a lot from the Trump nutsuckers here.

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#38 Posted by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: Not at all. I'm just not worried about leftwing fanatics who think the country is worse off and will never be happy untill we turn into a socialist shithole. So I'll do whatever it takes to keep people like you crying and miserable.

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#39 Edited by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: So I'll do whatever it takes to keep people like you crying and miserable.

Oof. Man, you're really bad at this.

So you don't really believe what you say, you just say what you think will get a rise out of people and keep them crying and miserable?

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#40 Edited by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: Ohh I believe what I say.

But it's not hard to keep people like you crying. All it takes is an opposing view point.

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#41 Posted by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: But it's not hard to keep people like you crying.

Keep practicing little man, you have a ways to go.

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#42 Posted by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: So edgy..

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#43 Posted by Nuck81 (7650 posts) -

@blackhairedhero: yeah, you see that response? That's what you're looking for.

That's when you know you've gotten to someone and made them salty.

You have to control the narrative and direction of the conversation.

All you do is react. Poorly.

Play more chess

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#44 Edited by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: I'm not the one that made the thread. How am I trying to control any narrative?

You've gone into Rambling.

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#45 Posted by Horgen (120645 posts) -

Stop it.

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#46 Edited by Zaryia (9067 posts) -
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@zaryia:

Yay, shitposting inaccurate memes.

The report was damaging. It objectively had negative info on Trump, to deny this is to deny reality.

Fox News's Chris Wallace: Parts of Mueller report 'damaging' and 'politically embarrassing' for Trump

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/439591-fox-news-chris-wallace-parts-of-mueller-report-damaging-and-politically

Mueller’s report paints a damning portrait of Trump’s presidency

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/muellers-report-paints-a-damning-portrait-of-trumps-presidency/2019/04/18/d7f52726-61f7-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f390cc44c44e

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#48 Edited by Zaryia (9067 posts) -
@npiet1 said:
@zaryia said:
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@npiet1 said:

@zaryia:@HoolaHoopMan: Yeah I quoted the wrong person :/

@zaryia If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?

The report is not that damaging,

Trump, and even some Republicans, disagree with you.

He's been fuming about it all week.

Has he?

Yes. Stop making this so easy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/439891-trump-continues-attacks-on-mueller-report-days-after-declaring

https://www.mcall.com/news/nation-world/mc-nws-trump-angry-at-aides-20190420-mdxx2vt2vvdybcakckpudww3um-story.html

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/19/trump-aides-mueller-report-1283128

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/22/politics/donald-trump-staff-mueller-report/index.html

He's denying portions of it, portions that make him look bad. He raged tweeted several times since Friday.

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@zaryia If the report is damming why doesn't anyone do anything about trump?

Politically damning =/= Illegal.

Also stop saying "if". It's a reality at the moment, read the report. A lot nasty shit in there.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/439591-fox-news-chris-wallace-parts-of-mueller-report-damaging-and-politically

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/muellers-report-paints-a-damning-portrait-of-trumps-presidency/2019/04/18/d7f52726-61f7-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f390cc44c44e

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#49 Edited by Zaryia (9067 posts) -

@blackhairedhero said:

@Nuck81: . I'm just not worried about leftwing fanatics who think the country is worse off and will never be happy untill we turn into a socialist shithole.

The countries they emulate policy from all have a higher qol and hdi than USA.

Also their policy polls higher than GOP ones, so you must hate most Americans.

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#50 Edited by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@zaryia: You mean Nordic countries that have a fraction of our population and are filled with people that have largely the same cultural values ?( for now).