Shooting at videogame tournament in Jacksonville FL. Multiple killed.

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#1 Mercenary848
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https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/madden-19-jacksonville-shooting/index.html

People from all over came to play Madden and this happens. Jesus, im sure there were a lot of kids there traumatized for the rest of their lives.

As gamers and politically minded posters what do you all think of this.

I was pretty numb to the last couple shootings(they keep happening), but as someone who frequents gaming events this was very jarring to me.

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#2  Edited By resevl4rlz
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Before anyone makes this political. The rumor is the shooter took part in the madden tournament and lost and got mad

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#3 Mercenary848
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@resevl4rlz said:

Before anyone makes this political. The rumor is the shooter took part in the madden tournament and lost and got mad

I can see that happening. I feel like most of these shooters just snap.

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So some loser rage quits with a gun? Jesus...

Inb4 media spins this as toxic masculinity or just down right blame video games.

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He lived in a state where you can literally buy a gun at a garage sale with no questions asked. I'm not surprised by this at all when every public street is a "guns allowed zone".

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@Gaming-Planet:

The gun lobby's excuse is so predictable...

"Guns don't kill people, video games kill people!"

...smh.

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Sad but familiar news, RIP to all of the victims of this.

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@resevl4rlz:

Just to play devils advocate: that doesn’t make it non-political.

The ease with which he had access to a firearm to go hand in hand with his short term rage at losing would potentially be the issue here.

But it’s just supposition. We’ll find out soon I’m sure.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

So some loser rage quits with a gun? Jesus...

Inb4 media spins this as toxic masculinity or just down right blame video games.

On a serious note, there is something wrong when you have a good amount of teens and kids who can't take a defeat, especially in a videogame.

Anywhoo, where was that good guy with a gun?

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#10  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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Sad that this has become the norm over there in the States... when will people wake up!

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@resevl4rlz said:

Before anyone makes this political. The rumor is the shooter took part in the madden tournament and lost and got mad

If true this guy is a Tier 1 pathetic loser.

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As always............shame. Gun culture needs to go but it won't.

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I'm going to guess that they'll scapegoat gaming for this, not the easily accessible firearms in Florida.

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floriduh

of course

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@drunk_pi said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

So some loser rage quits with a gun? Jesus...

Inb4 media spins this as toxic masculinity or just down right blame video games.

On a serious note, there is something wrong when you have a good amount of teens and kids who can't take a defeat, especially in a videogame.

Anywhoo, where was that good guy with a gun?

From my understanding, most private establishments don't allow guns.

They should have had metal detectors. We live in the US, we have guns, we have tech, we pull large crowds to conventions, yet no security to prevent that?

If the government can't solve it, private entities need to do their part.

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@foxhound_fox said:

I'm going to guess that they'll scapegoat gaming for this, not the easily accessible firearms in Florida.

I'm guessing you'll scapegoat the inanimate object, instead of the person that decided to kill people.

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#19  Edited By Maroxad
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@n64dd said:
@foxhound_fox said:

I'm going to guess that they'll scapegoat gaming for this, not the easily accessible firearms in Florida.

I'm guessing you'll scapegoat the inanimate object, instead of the person that decided to kill people.

The issue most people on the other side of the gun control debate have is that it is too easy for deranged people to buy guns. Not that you can buy guns. Hence why they support "Gun Control" rather than "Gun Ban".

You prevent mad people from getting guns for the same reason you prevent small children from having access to certain inanimate objects.

So no I dont think he is blaming the gun itself, he is blaming how easy it is to access them.

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@Maroxad said:
@n64dd said:
@foxhound_fox said:

I'm going to guess that they'll scapegoat gaming for this, not the easily accessible firearms in Florida.

I'm guessing you'll scapegoat the inanimate object, instead of the person that decided to kill people.

The issue most people on the other side of the gun control debate have is that it is too easy for deranged people to buy guns. Not that you can buy guns. Hence why they support "Gun Control" rather than "Gun Ban".

You prevent mad people from getting guns for the same reason you prevent small children from having access to certain inanimate objects.

Most want to ban guns honestly.

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#21  Edited By Maroxad
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@n64dd said:
@Maroxad said:
@n64dd said:
@foxhound_fox said:

I'm going to guess that they'll scapegoat gaming for this, not the easily accessible firearms in Florida.

I'm guessing you'll scapegoat the inanimate object, instead of the person that decided to kill people.

The issue most people on the other side of the gun control debate have is that it is too easy for deranged people to buy guns. Not that you can buy guns. Hence why they support "Gun Control" rather than "Gun Ban".

You prevent mad people from getting guns for the same reason you prevent small children from having access to certain inanimate objects.

Most want to ban guns honestly.

I havent seen any evidence of that, in fact, they are pretty much 50/50 on banning Assault Rifles.

There are people who want to ban all guns, but no evidence I find supports the notion that they are the majority. And based on subtle wording queues from the person you responded to, it seems he just wants to limit access the criminally insane have to them.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

So some loser rage quits with a gun? Jesus...

Inb4 media spins this as toxic masculinity or just down right blame video games.

Which the NRA and Trump himself have been doing, post Parkland.

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Terrible. My thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected.

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@n64dd: no one with any credibility, has ever said, "ban all guns"

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@n64dd said:
@foxhound_fox said:

I'm going to guess that they'll scapegoat gaming for this, not the easily accessible firearms in Florida.

I'm guessing you'll scapegoat the inanimate object, instead of the person that decided to kill people.

Ignoring that most people don't want to ban gun ownership, your same line of reasoning would be a counter to any arms.

Nukes? Hell, they don't kill people, only people kill people!

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@Mercenary848 said:
@resevl4rlz said:

Before anyone makes this political. The rumor is the shooter took part in the madden tournament and lost and got mad

I can see that happening. I feel like most of these shooters just snap.

They snap, yes, but not without cause....or, idunno, precedent?

The guy was admitted to psychiatric care twice before, and was still able to buy a gun. WTF?

He had a pretty bad home life, with his parents basically being complete opposites: mom submitted him to the psychiatric care, dad was like "Mom is not parenting, she is just letting shrinks do the work for her". Dad prob blames mom for the shootings, idunno what's true though.

He competed at many of these events, never shot anyone before. Something other than just losing set him off. You don't bring a gun because you think you might lose, you bring it because deep down you are planning to use it no matter what.

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#27  Edited By MirkoS77
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@drunk_pi said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

So some loser rage quits with a gun? Jesus...

Inb4 media spins this as toxic masculinity or just down right blame video games.

On a serious note, there is something wrong when you have a good amount of teens and kids who can't take a defeat, especially in a videogame.

That's not knowing how to take defeat, it's straight up off your rocker tier mental illness if you believe gunning down people who bested you in a game and then blowing your brains out is in any way justifiable or rational. If that's the reason, the guy was bonkers.

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Ouch