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Sen. Al Franken says he will be stepping down in the coming weeks.

"Let me be clear. I may be resigning my seat, but I am not giving up my voice," Franken said. "I will continue to stand up for the things I believe in as a citizen and as an activist. Minnesotans deserve a senator who can focus with all her energy on addressing the challenges they face every day."

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#2 LJS9502_basic
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Now let's see trump and moore do that............

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Franken doesn't have a choice nor does the Democratic party when calling for his resignation.

The big issue when it comes to the accusations is how proof isn't required for most people to believe it.

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#4  Edited By DrLostRib
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@LJS9502_basic said:

Now let's see trump and moore do that............

lol, good one

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Not really surprising given the mounting number of allegations against him. Seems pretty clear that the DNC is posturing to clean house of anyone with sexual allegations against them.

@Solaryellow said:

Franken doesn't have a choice nor does the Democratic party when calling for his resignation.

The big issue when it comes to the accusations is how proof isn't required for most people to believe it.

Well, at least Congress will be slightly less ineffective now.

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#6 LJS9502_basic
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@davillain- said:

Not really surprising given the mounting number of allegations against him. Seems pretty clear that the DNC is posturing to clean house of anyone with sexual allegations against them.

Ah a fan of the party that doesn't plan to clean house and promote sexual predators.

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#7 DaVillain  Moderator
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@LJS9502_basic: If the evidence is against you, you know who you are. It's pretty clear they're doing whatever they can to catch the wave of rising sexual accusations to prop themselves up on the moral higher ground.

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Very glad this has happened. The left needs to be morally consistent. It's probably more important to fall on the sword now more than ever if the voter is to see that there is a real choice in 2018 and 2020. "Go team"-ism is how the right has become completely morally bankrupt and I was truly afraid the left was going to follow suit.

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#9  Edited By N64DD
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Good!

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@davillain- said:

@LJS9502_basic: If the evidence is against you, you know who you are. It's pretty clear they're doing whatever they can to catch the wave of rising sexual accusations to prop themselves up on the moral higher ground.

And like I said the Republicans are not. They actively back sexual predators.

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This is all well good but I wonder what they would do if Franken’s seat wasn’t at risk or in the midst of a special election. This is the same party that still worships Bill Clinton.

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meanwhile, in the south....

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@perfect_blue said:

This is all well good but I wonder what they would do if Franken’s seat wasn’t at risk or in the midst of a special election. This is the same party that still worships Bill Clinton.

Surprisingly you bring up an interesting point that needs further addressing. After decades of women being treated like objects by certain idols of the party, why now is there concern? The Democrats have never been loud when it came to the condemnation of the Kennedy men, Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, etc.., Even Carlos Danger wasn't met with what I would consider appropriate.

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@Solaryellow said:
@perfect_blue said:

This is all well good but I wonder what they would do if Franken’s seat wasn’t at risk or in the midst of a special election. This is the same party that still worships Bill Clinton.

Surprisingly you bring up an interesting point that needs further addressing. After decades of women being treated like objects by certain idols of the party, why now is there concern? The Democrats have never been loud when it came to the condemnation of the Kennedy men, Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, etc.., Even Carlos Danger wasn't met with what I would consider appropriate.

Consensual relationships aren't sexual assaults. You have some strange choices there.

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This proves that the left isn't just as bad as the right like some people claim.

The right have no morals, they will back a paedophille for Christ's sake.

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#16  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Seems like a moral high ground strategy.

Afraid it might backfire if they pretend to have the moral high ground.

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@perfect_blue said:

This is all well good but I wonder what they would do if Franken’s seat wasn’t at risk or in the midst of a special election. This is the same party that still worships Bill Clinton.

You seem to be confusing two things. Clinton was a womanizer and adulterer. To my knowledge he never harassed or assaulted anyone. Ditto for JFK. If we clean house of all political men who have marital indiscretions and are known for philandering, we'd have an all woman government.

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#18 Jacanuk
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About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

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@sayyy-gaa said:
@perfect_blue said:

This is all well good but I wonder what they would do if Franken’s seat wasn’t at risk or in the midst of a special election. This is the same party that still worships Bill Clinton.

You seem to be confusing two things. Clinton was a womanizer and adulterer. To my knowledge he never harassed or assaulted anyone. Ditto for JFK. If we clean house of all political men who have marital indiscretions and are known for philandering, we'd have an all woman government.

You should Google the name "Juanita Broaddrick". Slick Willie was more than just a womanizer and adulterer.

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@sayyy-gaa said:

You seem to be confusing two things. Clinton was a womanizer and adulterer. To my knowledge he never harassed or assaulted anyone. Ditto for JFK. If we clean house of all political men who have marital indiscretions and are known for philandering, we'd have an all woman government.

Um, first off Bill Clinton is accused of very violent rape. Second the Monica Lewinsky scandal is like the nation's most famous case of sexual harassment. Unless "To your knowledge" means you didn't personally witness any sexual misconduct, you have to drink a serious amount of koolaid to type out a sentence like this. I think Clinton might be the world's most famous sexual harasser.

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@Jacanuk said:

About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

so the President should resign as well?

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@Jacanuk said:

About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

As is Moore and trump........but I don't see you calling for their resignation. Why is that? And from what I've heard........they are both worse offenders.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:

About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

As is Moore and trump........but I don't see you calling for their resignation. Why is that? And from what I've heard........they are both worse offenders.

The irony in Jacanuk’s post is truly stunning, but he is definitely too stupid to see it.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Solaryellow said:

Surprisingly you bring up an interesting point that needs further addressing. After decades of women being treated like objects by certain idols of the party, why now is there concern? The Democrats have never been loud when it came to the condemnation of the Kennedy men, Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, etc.., Even Carlos Danger wasn't met with what I would consider appropriate.

Consensual relationships aren't sexual assaults. You have some strange choices there.

The problems also include harassment, philandering, etc..,

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@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:

About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

so the President should resign as well?

Do you have any ironclad evidence as to the validity of the women who have "accused" Trump's claims.

No? well then you have your answer.

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@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:

About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

so the President should resign as well?

Do you have any ironclad evidence as to the validity of the women who have "accused" Trump's claims.

No? well then you have your answer.

I mean there's a tape of him talking about it. It's odd how you only require "ironclad evidence" for one side

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@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:

About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

so the President should resign as well?

Do you have any ironclad evidence as to the validity of the women who have "accused" Trump's claims.

No? well then you have your answer.

I mean there's a tape of him talking about it. It's odd how you only require "ironclad evidence" for one side

Hypocrite he is.....hypocrite he will remain.

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@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:

About time , it was long over due.

Franken is a predator and should not be in the senate.

so the President should resign as well?

Do you have any ironclad evidence as to the validity of the women who have "accused" Trump's claims.

No? well then you have your answer.

I mean there's a tape of him talking about it. It's odd how you only require "ironclad evidence" for one side

only for one side? ehmm ok sure mate.

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@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:

Do you have any ironclad evidence as to the validity of the women who have "accused" Trump's claims.

No? well then you have your answer.

I mean there's a tape of him talking about it. It's odd how you only require "ironclad evidence" for one side

only for one side? ehmm ok sure mate.

That's definitely how it seems based on your comments about Moore, Franken and Trump

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#30 Jacanuk
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@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:

Do you have any ironclad evidence as to the validity of the women who have "accused" Trump's claims.

No? well then you have your answer.

I mean there's a tape of him talking about it. It's odd how you only require "ironclad evidence" for one side

only for one side? ehmm ok sure mate.

That's definitely how it seems based on your comments about Moore, Franken and Trump

I have asked for actual evidence in all those cases, so not sure where you see the difference.

And out of those 3 , the only one who has confirmed it is Franken and have now taken the consequence.

As to Moore it´s interesting that one of them the women who claimed he attacked her has now admitted that she added the date and location in the yearbook under his supposedly written message. So this women added key evidence. Wonder what else she has "added".

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@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:

I mean there's a tape of him talking about it. It's odd how you only require "ironclad evidence" for one side

only for one side? ehmm ok sure mate.

That's definitely how it seems based on your comments about Moore, Franken and Trump

I have asked for actual evidence in all those cases, so not sure where you see the difference.

And out of those 3 , the only one who has confirmed it is Franken and have now taken the consequence.

As to Moore it´s interesting that one of them the women who claimed he attacked her has now admitted that she added the date and location in the yearbook under his supposedly written message. So this women added key evidence. Wonder what else she has "added".

It's more about what you accept as evidence of wrongdoing

But everyone's seen how you flip-fop depending if you agree with the POV or not

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#32 Jacanuk
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@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:

I mean there's a tape of him talking about it. It's odd how you only require "ironclad evidence" for one side

only for one side? ehmm ok sure mate.

That's definitely how it seems based on your comments about Moore, Franken and Trump

I have asked for actual evidence in all those cases, so not sure where you see the difference.

And out of those 3 , the only one who has confirmed it is Franken and have now taken the consequence.

As to Moore it´s interesting that one of them the women who claimed he attacked her has now admitted that she added the date and location in the yearbook under his supposedly written message. So this women added key evidence. Wonder what else she has "added".

It's more about what you accept as evidence of wrongdoing

But everyone's seen how you flip-fop depending if you agree with the POV or not

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

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@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drlostrib said:
@Jacanuk said:

only for one side? ehmm ok sure mate.

That's definitely how it seems based on your comments about Moore, Franken and Trump

I have asked for actual evidence in all those cases, so not sure where you see the difference.

And out of those 3 , the only one who has confirmed it is Franken and have now taken the consequence.

As to Moore it´s interesting that one of them the women who claimed he attacked her has now admitted that she added the date and location in the yearbook under his supposedly written message. So this women added key evidence. Wonder what else she has "added".

It's more about what you accept as evidence of wrongdoing

But everyone's seen how you flip-fop depending if you agree with the POV or not

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

so you just flop?

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@Jacanuk said:

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

Praising Franken's resignation but not wanting Moore or Trump to step down is the height of hypocricy.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

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@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

Praising Franken's resignation but not wanting Moore or Trump to step down is the height of hypocricy.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

Again please provide ironclad evidence of either of those guilt.

Franken admitted it himself.

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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

Praising Franken's resignation but not wanting Moore or Trump to step down is the height of hypocricy.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

Again please provide ironclad evidence of either of those guilt.

Franken admitted it himself.

No Franken isn't admitting guilt on those cases. And it's telling that you NEVER want to believe women. It's like you think men have the right to do what they want and it doesn't matter because women can't have credibility. Only a misogynist needs "proof". I hope you never know someone who was sexually assaulted. It's a terrible thing. And people like you make it worse.

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Honestly, the photograph used as the first point of evidence was laughable and I say laughable in terms of it supposedly being offensive to the point of apologizing. People seemed more outraged over a goofy picture compared with his supposed kissing of the woman in question.

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#38  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

Praising Franken's resignation but not wanting Moore or Trump to step down is the height of hypocricy.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

Again please provide ironclad evidence of either of those guilt.

Franken admitted it himself.

Trump is on video admitting it lol.

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#39 Jacanuk
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@perfect_blue said:
@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

Praising Franken's resignation but not wanting Moore or Trump to step down is the height of hypocricy.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

Again please provide ironclad evidence of either of those guilt.

Franken admitted it himself.

Trump is on video admitting it lol.

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

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@Jacanuk said:
@perfect_blue said:

Trump is on video admitting it lol.

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

You mean the debate wherein you totally ignore facts?

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@perfect_blue said:

Trump is on video admitting it lol.

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

You mean the debate wherein you totally ignore facts?

Again your opinion is not a fact.

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#42 LJS9502_basic
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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@perfect_blue said:

Trump is on video admitting it lol.

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

You mean the debate wherein you totally ignore facts?

Again your opinion is not a fact.

Opinions based on facts are factual opinions. Your's is not. Your's is partisan bull shit.

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#43 Jacanuk
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@perfect_blue said:

Trump is on video admitting it lol.

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

You mean the debate wherein you totally ignore facts?

Again your opinion is not a fact.

Opinions based on facts are factual opinions. Your's is not. Your's is partisan bull shit.

But you are not basing anything on facts.

You are assuming things which Trump never actually confirmed or said.

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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

You mean the debate wherein you totally ignore facts?

Again your opinion is not a fact.

Opinions based on facts are factual opinions. Your's is not. Your's is partisan bull shit.

But you are not basing anything on facts.

You are assuming things which Trump never actually confirmed or said.

He said it. The fact that you choose to ignore it speaks volumes about yourself.

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Well y'all have fun with that brick wall

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@drlostrib said:

Well y'all have fun with that brick wall

Unfortunately he's everything that's wrong with this country.

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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

You are talking utter nonsense.

Opposite you i don´t flip any where.

Praising Franken's resignation but not wanting Moore or Trump to step down is the height of hypocricy.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

Again please provide ironclad evidence of either of those guilt.

Franken admitted it himself.

WRONG.

Not that I completely believe him or think it makes it fine, but Franken never admitted to the wrong doing. Even during the final Senate speech he DISMISSED allegations. The accusers are mad about that. Please do research in the future before losing yet another debate against me.

Basically, when it comes to a (D) allegations are fine. When it comes to a (R) you want "iron clad proof", even though the allegations against Moore are seen as credible with very high sourcing. And then we have Trump, who has more allegations than both Moore and Franken combined - with a video tape of him saying he does what those women accused him of specifically doing. But that is fine, because of the (R) after his name.

You're defending an alleged child molester and/or predator, with over 30 sources and 8 allegations of this behavior, because of his party affiliation.

Basically, this is you:

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13994613/ted-cruz-roy-moore-al-franken/

Summary,

FOX NEWS HOST TO @tedcruz: You cool working with alleged child molester Roy Moore if he's elected?

CRUZ: Sure, no problem, that's up to the voters.

FOX NEWS HOST: And what about alleged groper Al Franken?

CRUZ: Now that's a very serious problem. I'm extremely concerned.

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@Jacanuk said:
@perfect_blue said:

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

I recall you losing that debate badly. As usual.

You're happy Franken is gone due to 5 allegations. But you defend men with 8-19 allegations, and corroborating reports. Because they have a (R) after their name. This is literally the reason. Full stop.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

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#49 Jacanuk
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@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:
@perfect_blue said:

Not really but we have had that debate before. So just refer back to that.

I recall you losing that debate badly. As usual.

You're happy Franken is gone due to 5 allegations. But you defend men with 8-19 allegations, and corroborating reports. Because they have a (R) after their name. This is literally the reason. Full stop.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

You keep spewing out a lot of BS.

Franken apologised so not sure why you claim he did not admit it.

And again as to Trump and Moore, we have Trump who some claims admitted it on a tape where two guys were bragging to each other, nothing else. And we have a Moore where the most serious charge now has a major dent, when the women admittet that she had altered key evidence.

But i know for you as a leftist that is hard to understand, so don´t worry we will see what happens on Tuesday and in 2020.

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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:

I recall you losing that debate badly. As usual.

You're happy Franken is gone due to 5 allegations. But you defend men with 8-19 allegations, and corroborating reports. Because they have a (R) after their name. This is literally the reason. Full stop.

Sexual Molestation over Country.

You keep spewing out a lot of BS.

Franken apologised so not sure why you claim he did not admit it.

And again as to Trump and Moore, we have Trump who some claims admitted it on a tape where two guys were bragging to each other, nothing else. And we have a Moore where the most serious charge now has a major dent, when the women admittet that she had altered key evidence.

But i know for you as a leftist that is hard to understand, so don´t worry we will see what happens on Tuesday and in 2020.

He apologized for the picture/appearance. Period. You are one of the most dishonest users I've met here.