Right-wing journalist Lauren Southern denied entry to UK, over criticism of Islam

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Canadian right-wing journalist and activist Lauren Southern was barred from entering the United Kingdom on Monday, purportedly over a poster she distributed about Islam in February -- making her the latest international right-wing figure to be denied entry to the U.K. after criticizing the religion.

Here is one of the flyers she handed out which caused the controversy (Done as a social experiment).

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@piisexactly4 said:

Canadian right-wing journalist and activist Lauren Southern was barred from entering the United Kingdom on Monday, purportedly over a poster she distributed about Islam in February -- making her the latest international right-wing figure to be denied entry to the U.K. after criticizing the religion.

Here is one of the flyers she handed out which caused the controversy (Done as a social experiment).

If there's one thing I don't understand about some progressives, it's the admiration they have for Islam.

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@Johnny-n-Roger: What I understand even less is the fact that parts of England and Wales are in their most violent period in over a decade, and law enforcement resources continue to be cut.

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Cool beans.

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Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

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Lauren Southern is an idiot

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@piisexactly4 said:

Canadian right-wing journalist and activist Lauren Southern was barred from entering the United Kingdom on Monday, purportedly over a poster she distributed about Islam in February -- making her the latest international right-wing figure to be denied entry to the U.K. after criticizing the religion.

Here is one of the flyers she handed out which caused the controversy (Done as a social experiment).

Hmm, good for her.

Not sure if anyone cares except a few at Fox News.

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People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

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Also lol at calling her a journalist and activist. She's an idiot who posts hate filled rants on youtube.

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Aww what a shame. Too bad, so sad.

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@toast_burner said:

People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

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@piisexactly4 said:
@toast_burner said:

People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

He said "hatred towards western culture". What a joke. He's a believer in hate speech.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

There are close to thirty million Muslims living in Western countries, but yeah, completely incompatible with western culture.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

There are close to thirty million Muslims living in Western countries, but yeah, completely incompatible with western culture.

@piisexactly4 said:

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So is Christianity.

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@theone86 said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

There are close to thirty million Muslims living in Western countries, but yeah, completely incompatible with western culture.

That's still a lot of radical beliefs.

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Oh, so this isn't an onion piece?

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@Gaming-Planet said:
@theone86 said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

There are close to thirty million Muslims living in Western countries, but yeah, completely incompatible with western culture.

That's still a lot of radical beliefs.

Really? Because they seem to be getting along just fine.

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@theone86 said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

There are close to thirty million Muslims living in Western countries, but yeah, completely incompatible with western culture.

@piisexactly4 said:

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So is Christianity.

Whataboutism

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#20  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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@piisexactly4 said:
@theone86 said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

There are close to thirty million Muslims living in Western countries, but yeah, completely incompatible with western culture.

@piisexactly4 said:

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So is Christianity.

Whataboutism

Are you opposed to Christianity as well then though?

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@piisexactly4 said:
@theone86 said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

Even Islamic countries feel threatened by western values.

Western values just don't align with Islamic culture. At all.

There are close to thirty million Muslims living in Western countries, but yeah, completely incompatible with western culture.

@piisexactly4 said:

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So is Christianity.

Whataboutism

It's absolutely not whataboutism. I'm trying to show that you're not, in fact, motivated by principles of respect for women and homosexuals but rather by an irrational hatred of Islam based on the fact that you single out Islam for scorn while ignoring the misogyny and homophobia in other religions like Christianity and Judaism.

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@Johnny-n-Roger: so if a Muslim was applying for a visa to come to the UK solely to preach about how horrible Britian is and how people should hate christians, do you think their visa should be accepted?

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I mean according to politifact, if we take the entire Muslim population throughout the world, 18% of them are radical meaning they want the death of western civilization- the reason this is so alarming is because this encompass roughly 200 million people. Other people have argued that 18% is far too low and that the number is realistically closer to 25%, but either way it isn't good.

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@vl4d_l3nin said:

@Johnny-n-Roger: What I understand even less is the fact that parts of England and Wales are in their most violent period in over a decade, and law enforcement resources continue to be cut.

lol..

that would require one to listen and be honest about the subject matter so I doubt you will ever get your answer..just sayin

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She tried stopping a ship to help refugees on make-shift rafts... She's scum.

As for the picture... I don't know. There have been pictures like that but with the word "God" instead. With that being said though, considering it's from her, it's probably done to incite rather than actually be inclusive.

@piisexactly4 said:
@toast_burner said:

People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So... you hate Muslims?

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She tried stopping a ship to help refugees on make-shift rafts... She's scum.

As for the picture... I don't know. There have been pictures like that but with the word "God" instead. With that being said though, considering it's from her, it's probably done to incite rather than actually be inclusive.

@piisexactly4 said:
@toast_burner said:

People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So... you hate Muslims?

I think he's saying he hates the religion. There are many people who dislike christianity because they feel it is antigay and oppressive to some groups. Same line of thought. I think he means he hates the ideology.

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@drunk_pi said:

She tried stopping a ship to help refugees on make-shift rafts... She's scum.

As for the picture... I don't know. There have been pictures like that but with the word "God" instead. With that being said though, considering it's from her, it's probably done to incite rather than actually be inclusive.

@piisexactly4 said:
@toast_burner said:

People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So... you hate Muslims?

"A ship to help refugees". Another way to word that is "A human trafficking vessel".

"you hate muslims"? He said he hates Islam. Atheists say they hate religions all the time. Cry more.

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@Johnny-n-Roger said:

"A ship to help refugees". Another way to word that is "A human trafficking vessel".

The boat Southern and the others identified does not bring refugees or migrants directly from Africa. The Aquarius is operated by a group called SOS Mediterranée with support from Doctors Without Borders, and is a search and rescue boat.

Refugees and migrants leaving war-torn Libya are often packed onto small, barely seaworthy vessels by people smugglers. The smugglers often abandon the boats, without fuel, in international waters.

The Aquarius and other rescue organizations and various navies and coast guards pick up survivors, but thousands have died in the past several years attempting to make the crossing.

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"you hate muslims"? He said he hates Islam. Atheists say they hate religions all the time. Cry more.

People who say they hate Islam, tend to show that hatred towards Muslims. As for atheists saying they hate religion, not really sure about that... They usually don't believe in religion. You do have individual atheists say they "hate" a particular religion, but from past experiences, whenever someone says they hate Islam, they do tend to hate Muslims as well, even when they claim to be "progressive" on certain issues.

Why is this a big deal though? Considering the rise of anti-Muslim groups, it kinda is, especially when those very people are committing attacks on innocent human beings.

No need to get offended, but it's usually the case for your type.

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#30  Edited By Johnny-n-Roger
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@drunk_pi said:
@Johnny-n-Roger said:

The boat Southern and the others identified does not bring refugees or migrants directly from Africa. The Aquarius is operated by a group called SOS Mediterranée with support from Doctors Without Borders, and is a search and rescue boat.

Refugees and migrants leaving war-torn Libya are often packed onto small, barely seaworthy vessels by people smugglers. The smugglers often abandon the boats, without fuel, in international waters.

The Aquarius and other rescue organizations and various navies and coast guards pick up survivors, but thousands have died in the past several years attempting to make the crossing.

"A ship to help refugees". Another way to word that is "A human trafficking vessel".

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"you hate muslims"? He said he hates Islam. Atheists say they hate religions all the time. Cry more.

People who say they hate Islam, tend to show that hatred towards Muslims. As for atheists saying they hate religion, not really sure about that... They usually don't believe in religion. You do have individual atheists say they "hate" a particular religion, but from past experiences, whenever someone says they hate Islam, they do tend to hate Muslims as well, even when they claim to be "progressive" on certain issues.

Why is this a big deal though? Considering the rise of anti-Muslim groups, it kinda is, especially when those very people are committing attacks on innocent human beings.

No need to get offended, but it's usually the case for your type.

Refugees and migrants leaving war-torn Libya are often packed onto small, barely seaworthy vessels by people smugglers. The smugglers often abandon the boats, without fuel, in international waters.

Next time read before you post to make sure you're not supporting your opponents argument. And then "no need to get offended" after you were triggered because someone said they hated a religion. Your mental gymnastics aren't substitute for rational thought. What a gem we have here.

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@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@drunk_pi said:
@Johnny-n-Roger said:

The boat Southern and the others identified does not bring refugees or migrants directly from Africa. The Aquarius is operated by a group called SOS Mediterranée with support from Doctors Without Borders, and is a search and rescue boat.

Refugees and migrants leaving war-torn Libya are often packed onto small, barely seaworthy vessels by people smugglers. The smugglers often abandon the boats, without fuel, in international waters.

The Aquarius and other rescue organizations and various navies and coast guards pick up survivors, but thousands have died in the past several years attempting to make the crossing.

"A ship to help refugees". Another way to word that is "A human trafficking vessel".

LINK

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"you hate muslims"? He said he hates Islam. Atheists say they hate religions all the time. Cry more.

People who say they hate Islam, tend to show that hatred towards Muslims. As for atheists saying they hate religion, not really sure about that... They usually don't believe in religion. You do have individual atheists say they "hate" a particular religion, but from past experiences, whenever someone says they hate Islam, they do tend to hate Muslims as well, even when they claim to be "progressive" on certain issues.

Why is this a big deal though? Considering the rise of anti-Muslim groups, it kinda is, especially when those very people are committing attacks on innocent human beings.

No need to get offended, but it's usually the case for your type.

Refugees and migrants leaving war-torn Libya are often packed onto small, barely seaworthy vessels by people smugglers. The smugglers often abandon the boats, without fuel, in international waters.

Next time read before you post to make sure you're not supporting your opponents argument. And then "no need to get offended" after you were triggered because someone said they hated a religion. Your mental gymnastics aren't substitute for rational thought. What a gem we have here.

This is your statement:

"A ship to help refugees". Another way to word that is "A human trafficking vessel".

in response to my statement:

"She tried stopping a ship to help refugees on make-shift rafts... She's scum."

Now, the ship that is helping refugees from those make-shift rafts is the search and rescue boat. However, in your previous statement, you referred it as a "human trafficking vessel..."

Are you okay? Because you're clearly in the wrong.

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@drunk_pi said:

She tried stopping a ship to help refugees on make-shift rafts... She's scum.

As for the picture... I don't know. There have been pictures like that but with the word "God" instead. With that being said though, considering it's from her, it's probably done to incite rather than actually be inclusive.

@piisexactly4 said:
@toast_burner said:

People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So... you hate Muslims?

The religion, not the people.

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The ban appears justified, they literally put human lives at risk:

https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/defend-europe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/28/europes-far-right-pirates-of-the-mediterranean-are-targeting-refugee-rescue-missions/?utm_term=.563809828057

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/lauren-southern-detained-italian-coast-guard-attempting-block-migrant-boats/

That is down right dangerous.

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@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@drunk_pi said:

She tried stopping a ship to help refugees on make-shift rafts... She's scum.

As for the picture... I don't know. There have been pictures like that but with the word "God" instead. With that being said though, considering it's from her, it's probably done to incite rather than actually be inclusive.

@piisexactly4 said:
@toast_burner said:

People who have as strong a hatred towards western culture as her, propably shouldn't be accepted into those countries to spread their hate.

What's wrong with hating Islam? It's anti-woman and gay.

As somebody who believes in gay rights, I'm opposed to it.

So... you hate Muslims?

"A ship to help refugees". Another way to word that is "A human trafficking vessel".

"you hate muslims"? He said he hates Islam. Atheists say they hate religions all the time. Cry more.

They were rescue boats.

You're reaching.

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#36  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Well that's OK, seeing as how people with a DUI can't go to Canada. I mean, really Canada?

WTF she is a blonde babe. Somebody wants to be the next Tomi, I guess.