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#51  Edited By Vaasman
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@JimB said:
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Why are you trying to pass lie after lie? Yes Bill Clinton was given this same treatment, the only difference being much of the investigation was handled by special council, but that also happened confidentially, and behind closed doors. And you're right, there is a big difference between investigation and normal investigations, which is why these are private hearings. And no evidence? Multiple corroborating testimonies and admission on TV and presentation of a memo demonstrate otherwise.

Stop trolling, you're only digging yourself a deeper grave.

The full house voted to conduct an impeachment inquiry. Clinton's attorney was permitted to be at every hearing and cross examine witness . The Democrats were permitted to call witness and cross examine and committee member voted on various matters. Bill Clinton's impeachment were the result of being found guilty of eleven charges of obstruction and lying by a special prosecutor. It was then referred to the congress for action. None of the Clinton inquires were conducted behind closed doors with no participation of Democrats. Before you accuse me of lying you better do some homework.

Solid job on wikipedia grabbing out of context info, but you forgot that the special council for Clinton included confidential testimonies and evidence which is exactly what I told you. His House didn't need to investigate testimony privately. Thanks to the Starr Report, their hearings were allowed to be public because information was already gathered. Notice how almost every hearing post Mueller Report was made public? Same thing. And again, as stated, House is granted the power to run the impeachment in broad terms in the constitution, so all of this is based on thin, desperate talking points to try and avoid the testimonies and evidence being provided.

And it's Republicans who voted that the minority should have less power in inquiry. That's your side's fault farmbot.

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#53 LJS9502_basic
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If this is so damning why is the hearing behind closed doors. I tell you why because what is being reported in the news media is not what is actually happening. This is the kind of hearing that happens in Soviet Russia. No transparency which the Democrats and media were clamoring for concerning the Mueller report.

Because it's an investigation dude. It's amazing to me that so-called patriots are allowing a president to highjack the country. Sad. Pathetic. Disheartening.

Do the right thing for the country.

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#54 LJS9502_basic
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@JimB said:
@Vaasman said:

Why are you trying to pass lie after lie? Yes Bill Clinton was given this same treatment, the only difference being much of the investigation was handled by special council, but that also happened confidentially, and behind closed doors. And you're right, there is a big difference between investigation and normal investigations, which is why these are private hearings. And no evidence? Multiple corroborating testimonies and admission on TV and presentation of a memo demonstrate otherwise.

Stop trolling, you're only digging yourself a deeper grave.

The full house voted to conduct an impeachment inquiry. Clinton's attorney was permitted to be at every hearing and cross examine witness . The Democrats were permitted to call witness and cross examine and committee member voted on various matters. Bill Clinton's impeachment were the result of being found guilty of eleven charges of obstruction and lying by a special prosecutor. It was then referred to the congress for action. None of the Clinton inquires were conducted behind closed doors with no participation of Democrats. Before you accuse me of lying you better do some homework.

And if the Senate has an impeachment the same applies. This is an investigation. Period.

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#55  Edited By Zaryia
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Some of those 25 bozos broke SCIF rules, hope they get their security clearance revoked. Possibly federal law violation.

What a clown show.

GOP lawmaker shares audio of phone call he made from highly classified SCIF room

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467168-gop-lawmaker-shares-audio-of-phone-call-he-made-from-highly-classified-scif

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@zaryia: Lock 'em up

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#57  Edited By HoolaHoopMan
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@mattbbpl said:
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I'm wondering what more people need to see.

Do you think there's anything that would convince them?

What about actual evidence and not people´s feelings.

I present Exhibit A

Like clockwork.

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#58 JimB
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@JimB said:

If this is so damning why is the hearing behind closed doors. I tell you why because what is being reported in the news media is not what is actually happening. This is the kind of hearing that happens in Soviet Russia. No transparency which the Democrats and media were clamoring for concerning the Mueller report.

Because it's an investigation dude. It's amazing to me that so-called patriots are allowing a president to highjack the country. Sad. Pathetic. Disheartening.

Do the right thing for the country.

In Soviet Russia it might be an investigation not in the United States and especially the US Congress. The country is being hijacked by the Democrats. Beside the damage that is being done to the Office of the President because they never got over the 2016 election loss.

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#59 JimB
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@JimB said:
@Vaasman said:

Why are you trying to pass lie after lie? Yes Bill Clinton was given this same treatment, the only difference being much of the investigation was handled by special council, but that also happened confidentially, and behind closed doors. And you're right, there is a big difference between investigation and normal investigations, which is why these are private hearings. And no evidence? Multiple corroborating testimonies and admission on TV and presentation of a memo demonstrate otherwise.

Stop trolling, you're only digging yourself a deeper grave.

The full house voted to conduct an impeachment inquiry. Clinton's attorney was permitted to be at every hearing and cross examine witness . The Democrats were permitted to call witness and cross examine and committee member voted on various matters. Bill Clinton's impeachment were the result of being found guilty of eleven charges of obstruction and lying by a special prosecutor. It was then referred to the congress for action. None of the Clinton inquires were conducted behind closed doors with no participation of Democrats. Before you accuse me of lying you better do some homework.

And if the Senate has an impeachment the same applies. This is an investigation. Period.

An investigation with put due process where members of congress are not permitted to attend or read the transcripts and Adam Schiff leaks cherry picked sentences to the media.

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#60  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@JimB said:

In Soviet Russia it might be an investigation not in the United States and especially the US Congress. The country is being hijacked by the Democrats. Beside the damage that is being done to the Office of the President because they never got over the 2016 election loss.

That's just BS fox talk. No one is upset over the election. The problem is everything that has happened since he was sworn in. And if you weren't invested in trump and could step back and see the problems he's creating both domestically and abroad you would not be a fan either. But allowing criminal behavior and unconstitutional acts because he has an R next to his name makes you unpatriotic. The country is what matters. Not some personality.

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#61 JimB
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@JimB said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@JimB said:
@Vaasman said:

Why are you trying to pass lie after lie? Yes Bill Clinton was given this same treatment, the only difference being much of the investigation was handled by special council, but that also happened confidentially, and behind closed doors. And you're right, there is a big difference between investigation and normal investigations, which is why these are private hearings. And no evidence? Multiple corroborating testimonies and admission on TV and presentation of a memo demonstrate otherwise.

Stop trolling, you're only digging yourself a deeper grave.

The full house voted to conduct an impeachment inquiry. Clinton's attorney was permitted to be at every hearing and cross examine witness . The Democrats were permitted to call witness and cross examine and committee member voted on various matters. Bill Clinton's impeachment were the result of being found guilty of eleven charges of obstruction and lying by a special prosecutor. It was then referred to the congress for action. None of the Clinton inquires were conducted behind closed doors with no participation of Democrats. Before you accuse me of lying you better do some homework.

And if the Senate has an impeachment the same applies. This is an investigation. Period.

An investigation with out due process where members of congress are not permitted to attend or read the transcripts and Adam Schiff leaks cherry picked sentences to the media.

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#62 LJS9502_basic
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@JimB said:
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An investigation with out due process where members of congress are not permitted to attend or read the transcripts and Adam Schiff leaks cherry picked sentences to the media.

Members of Congress are actually allowed to attend and question. There are roughly 48 Republicans involved in the investigation. Prior investigations were in fact done in private. Watergate, Clinton, Benghazi...…...they don't move public until there is an actual impeachment hearing. This is an investigation to see if one is warranted.

It would behoove you to find some sources that are right biased. You might learn facts.