Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

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#1 Edited by Zaryia (9000 posts) -

Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected

A new poll finds that a strong majority of voters believes that President Trump does not deserve a second term in office.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found that only 37 percent of voters believe Trump should be reelected, while 60 percent said they think it’s time to have someone new in the White House.

That’s the highest percentage of voters saying they’re eager for change since Monmouth first began asking the question in November. The numbers come weeks ahead of Trump's expected official launch for his 2020 reelection campaign.

Trump’s approval rating is at 40 percent positive and 52 percent negative. That’s at the low end of his approval ratings for the past 12 months, during which time his positive rating has been from 40 to 44 percent and his negative rating has ranged from 46 to 54 percent.

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

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#2 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@zaryia said:

Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected

A new poll finds that a strong majority of voters believes that President Trump does not deserve a second term in office.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found that only 37 percent of voters believe Trump should be reelected, while 60 percent said they think it’s time to have someone new in the White House.

That’s the highest percentage of voters saying they’re eager for change since Monmouth first began asking the question in November. The numbers come weeks ahead of Trump's expected official launch for his 2020 reelection campaign.

Trump’s approval rating is at 40 percent positive and 52 percent negative. That’s at the low end of his approval ratings for the past 12 months, during which time his positive rating has been from 40 to 44 percent and his negative rating has ranged from 46 to 54 percent.

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

Don't worry, Trump has a 90 percent chance of not being elected according to polls last election. Hillary is president isn't she? :X

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#3 Edited by Zaryia (9000 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected

A new poll finds that a strong majority of voters believes that President Trump does not deserve a second term in office.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found that only 37 percent of voters believe Trump should be reelected, while 60 percent said they think it’s time to have someone new in the White House.

That’s the highest percentage of voters saying they’re eager for change since Monmouth first began asking the question in November. The numbers come weeks ahead of Trump's expected official launch for his 2020 reelection campaign.

Trump’s approval rating is at 40 percent positive and 52 percent negative. That’s at the low end of his approval ratings for the past 12 months, during which time his positive rating has been from 40 to 44 percent and his negative rating has ranged from 46 to 54 percent.

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

Don't worry, Trump has a 90 percent chance of not being elected according to polls last election. Hillary is president isn't she? :X

1. The polls were right for Public Opinion.

2. This thread is about Public Opinion, mostly. Which is why I mention PV in my OP.

It's highly unlikely this poll is incorrect, (within margin). Most Americans do not want Trump to win and most Americans do not approve of his Job Performance. Those are just facts.

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#4 Posted by mattbbpl (17208 posts) -

Yeah, but they'll vote for him again or stay home because of emails or something.

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#5 Posted by Nuck81 (7642 posts) -

@n64dd: Clinton had more votes. That's what the polls said would happen.

You can keep having a meltdown though

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#6 Posted by mattbbpl (17208 posts) -

“Trump’s inexperience and volatile behavior mean he’s gotten nothing done,” Democratic pollster John Anzalone told me. “And what little he has gotten done has been for the rich and corporations, so he has become a charlatan to the middle class.”

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#7 Edited by R4gn4r0k (31203 posts) -

@zaryia said:

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

But if you win, who cares if you win the popular vote or not?

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#8 Posted by Nuck81 (7642 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k: not Republicans. They've only won one popular vote since 1988

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#9 Posted by Vaasman (13721 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:
@zaryia said:

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

But if you win, who cares if you win the popular vote or not?

Considering several states are working out a system to bypass electoral college by giving their votes to the popular vote, I would say there's a possiblity that we should all care.

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#10 Posted by Nuck81 (7642 posts) -

@Vaasman: I think they are thinking of splitting electoral votes into districts within each state.

So whoever wins that district within a state, gets that areas allotment of electoral votes.

This will really help with states like Ohio and Florida.

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#11 Posted by Zaryia (9000 posts) -
@R4gn4r0k said:
@zaryia said:

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

But if you win, who cares if you win the popular vote or not?

True, but the poll is on public sentiment.

Most don't want Trump as president.

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#12 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@Nuck81 said:

@R4gn4r0k: not Republicans. They've only won one popular vote since 1988

You would think people would catch on how the system works then?

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#13 Edited by warmblur (2528 posts) -

@mattbbpl said:

Yeah, but they'll vote for him again or stay home because of emails or something.

Don't forget Benghazi!! Benghazi!! Benghazi!!

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#14 Posted by R4gn4r0k (31203 posts) -

@Vaasman said:

Considering several states are working out a system to bypass electoral college by giving their votes to the popular vote, I would say there's a possiblity that we should all care.

When Trump won over Hilary, one of the first things he said is that next time the popularity vote would decide.

So what happened?

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#15 Posted by joebones5000 (2346 posts) -

Trump supporters don't believe polls, unless they're good polls for Trump. Fake news.

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#16 Posted by joebones5000 (2346 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected

A new poll finds that a strong majority of voters believes that President Trump does not deserve a second term in office.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found that only 37 percent of voters believe Trump should be reelected, while 60 percent said they think it’s time to have someone new in the White House.

That’s the highest percentage of voters saying they’re eager for change since Monmouth first began asking the question in November. The numbers come weeks ahead of Trump's expected official launch for his 2020 reelection campaign.

Trump’s approval rating is at 40 percent positive and 52 percent negative. That’s at the low end of his approval ratings for the past 12 months, during which time his positive rating has been from 40 to 44 percent and his negative rating has ranged from 46 to 54 percent.

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

Don't worry, Trump has a 90 percent chance of not being elected according to polls last election. Hillary is president isn't she? :X

She's certainly the most powerful woman in the world. Trump and his supporters can't stop talking about her.

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#17 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@joebones5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected

A new poll finds that a strong majority of voters believes that President Trump does not deserve a second term in office.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found that only 37 percent of voters believe Trump should be reelected, while 60 percent said they think it’s time to have someone new in the White House.

That’s the highest percentage of voters saying they’re eager for change since Monmouth first began asking the question in November. The numbers come weeks ahead of Trump's expected official launch for his 2020 reelection campaign.

Trump’s approval rating is at 40 percent positive and 52 percent negative. That’s at the low end of his approval ratings for the past 12 months, during which time his positive rating has been from 40 to 44 percent and his negative rating has ranged from 46 to 54 percent.

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

Don't worry, Trump has a 90 percent chance of not being elected according to polls last election. Hillary is president isn't she? :X

She's certainly the most powerful woman in the world. Trump and his supporters can't stop talking about her.

It's relevant to the conversation. Go figure out the difference between agnostic and atheism, troll.

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#18 Posted by Jacanuk (18606 posts) -

@zaryia: Why do you keep making the same posts over and over and over and over and over again?

But let´s be clear about his approval rating

RCP Average5/1 - 5/21--42.553.7
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#19 Posted by Zaryia (9000 posts) -
@n64dd said:
@joebones5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected

A new poll finds that a strong majority of voters believes that President Trump does not deserve a second term in office.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found that only 37 percent of voters believe Trump should be reelected, while 60 percent said they think it’s time to have someone new in the White House.

That’s the highest percentage of voters saying they’re eager for change since Monmouth first began asking the question in November. The numbers come weeks ahead of Trump's expected official launch for his 2020 reelection campaign.

Trump’s approval rating is at 40 percent positive and 52 percent negative. That’s at the low end of his approval ratings for the past 12 months, during which time his positive rating has been from 40 to 44 percent and his negative rating has ranged from 46 to 54 percent.

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

Don't worry, Trump has a 90 percent chance of not being elected according to polls last election. Hillary is president isn't she? :X

She's certainly the most powerful woman in the world. Trump and his supporters can't stop talking about her.

It's relevant to the conversation. Go figure out the difference between agnostic and atheism, troll.

Most Americans do not want Trump reelected at the moment.

Why are you so upset by this fact?

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#20 Edited by Zaryia (9000 posts) -
@Jacanuk said:

@zaryia: Why do you keep making the same posts over and over and over and over and over again?


This is a new poll. 05/22/19 11:00 AM EDT. How can it be the same post over and over? You sound triggered.

@Jacanuk said:

But let´s be clear about his approval rating

RCP Average5/1 - 5/21--42.553.7

What's your point, I said most Americans do not approve of his job performance. This post proves me correct...

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#21 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:
@joebones5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Poll: 60 percent say Trump should not be reelected

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected

A new poll finds that a strong majority of voters believes that President Trump does not deserve a second term in office.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found that only 37 percent of voters believe Trump should be reelected, while 60 percent said they think it’s time to have someone new in the White House.

That’s the highest percentage of voters saying they’re eager for change since Monmouth first began asking the question in November. The numbers come weeks ahead of Trump's expected official launch for his 2020 reelection campaign.

Trump’s approval rating is at 40 percent positive and 52 percent negative. That’s at the low end of his approval ratings for the past 12 months, during which time his positive rating has been from 40 to 44 percent and his negative rating has ranged from 46 to 54 percent.

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

Don't worry, Trump has a 90 percent chance of not being elected according to polls last election. Hillary is president isn't she? :X

She's certainly the most powerful woman in the world. Trump and his supporters can't stop talking about her.

It's relevant to the conversation. Go figure out the difference between agnostic and atheism, troll.

Most Americans do not want Trump reelected at the moment.

Why are you so upset by this fact?

Most Americans do, that's why he's president.

Have you had every single person give their thoughts, or some small sample size that you believe to be accurate in a very unpredicable and ever changing landscape?

You have an educated opinion, nothing more.

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#22 Edited by Zaryia (9000 posts) -

@n64dd said:

Most Americans do, that's why he's president.

1. Most Americans did not want Trump as President. This is a fact and it was shown on the Election night and many polls. You seem extremely confused right now.

2. Most Americans do not want Trump reelected as of 5/22/2019. This is a fact.

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#23 Edited by Jacanuk (18606 posts) -
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:

@zaryia: Why do you keep making the same posts over and over and over and over and over again?

This is a new poll. 05/22/19 11:00 AM EDT. How can it be the same post over and over? You sound triggered.

@Jacanuk said:

But let´s be clear about his approval rating

RCP Average5/1 - 5/21--42.553.7

What's your point, I said most Americans do not approve of his job performance. This post proves me correct...

This might be a new poll and you may want to spin in a certain direction with a fancy new title but the content is no more different any other poll thread you have made.

Also considering the majority on this forum, I have no idea why you keep making them, do you really need to keep confirming what most are already feeling?

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#24 Posted by joebones5000 (2346 posts) -
@n64dd said:

It's relevant to the conversation. Go figure out the difference between agnostic and atheism, troll.

I already know it. Agnostics are atheist. Keep crying about Hillary. haha

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#25 Posted by Vaasman (13721 posts) -

@joebones5000 said:
@n64dd said:

It's relevant to the conversation. Go figure out the difference between agnostic and atheism, troll.

I already know it. Agnostics are atheist.* Keep crying about Hillary. haha

*Citation needed.

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#26 Edited by ad1x2 (7563 posts) -

@Vaasman said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@zaryia said:

Interesting. It will likely change but it closely resembles approval polls. Trump has a lot of ground to cover. Also even if he does win it will it is extremely likely he will probably lose the popular vote again. His policies and far right ideas just aren't popular, so he has to rely on Obama's economy trend which has been going as expected for the last 2 years..

But if you win, who cares if you win the popular vote or not?

Considering several states are working out a system to bypass electoral college by giving their votes to the popular vote, I would say there's a possiblity that we should all care.

The only states trying to move to that system are blue states that he lost in 2016 anyway. It's not going to make much of a difference in 2020 unless he wins the popular vote but loses the electoral college, which in that case they may conviently decline to honor the agreement to hand their EC votes to Trump so he doesn't get a second term.

But then again, a few states are trying to remove his name from the ballet altogether unless he releases his tax returns, which will probably get thrown out in court since the Constitution clearly lays out the requirements to be eligible for the presidency and releasing your taxes isn't one of them.

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#27 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166597 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Most Americans do not want Trump reelected at the moment.

Why are you so upset by this fact?

Most Americans do, that's why he's president.

Have you had every single person give their thoughts, or some small sample size that you believe to be accurate in a very unpredicable and ever changing landscape?

You have an educated opinion, nothing more.

You can't say most Americans when he didn't get the popular vote dude. Logic 101.

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#28 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Most Americans do not want Trump reelected at the moment.

Why are you so upset by this fact?

Most Americans do, that's why he's president.

Have you had every single person give their thoughts, or some small sample size that you believe to be accurate in a very unpredicable and ever changing landscape?

You have an educated opinion, nothing more.

You can't say most Americans when he didn't get the popular vote dude. Logic 101.

Most of the country didn't even vote. Impossible to determine DUDE.

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#29 Posted by SUD123456 (5312 posts) -

@Vaasman said:
@joebones5000 said:
@n64dd said:

It's relevant to the conversation. Go figure out the difference between agnostic and atheism, troll.

I already know it. Agnostics are atheist.* Keep crying about Hillary. haha

*Citation needed.

https://www.atheistalliance.org/about-atheism/what-is-atheism/

Many people are confused as to what theism is vs atheism. And then doubly confused about agnosticism vs gnosticism. On the latter the most common issue is people thinking that agnostic is some sort of middle ground between theism and atheism....which is not correct. One axis is belief vs non-belief. The other axis is around certainty/knowledge: what you claim to know.

Most religious people both believe in God and claim to know that God exists. But you can believe in God while not claiming with certainty that you know God exists. Aka both a believer and agnostic.

Many atheists are also agnostics: they do not believe in God but they do not claim to know with certainty that God does not exist. And then there are the atheists that are not agnostic: They don't believe in God and they claim to know that God does not exists.

The upshot is that neither of the two posters is correct, nor was anyone correct in the other thread (at least the last time I read it)

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#30 Posted by Nuck81 (7642 posts) -

@n64dd: wow dude, you are having a serious meltdown.

No need to get so emotional. Just take a break and calm down.

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#31 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166597 posts) -

@SUD123456:You guys need to move that topic to OT.

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#32 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166597 posts) -

@n64dd: No we have the actual popular vote as a base. Here's a tissue for the sniffles.

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#33 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@Nuck81 said:

@n64dd: wow dude, you are having a serious meltdown.

No need to get so emotional. Just take a break and calm down.

Leave Britney Alone!

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#34 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:

@n64dd: No we have the actual popular vote as a base. Here's a tissue for the sniffles.

Popular vote doesn't count.

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#35 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166597 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@n64dd: No we have the actual popular vote as a base. Here's a tissue for the sniffles.

Popular vote doesn't count.

It most certainly does in context with your statement about most Americans. The EC is not the voice of the population at large. You were wrong.

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#36 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@n64dd: No we have the actual popular vote as a base. Here's a tissue for the sniffles.

Popular vote doesn't count.

It most certainly does in context with your statement about most Americans. The EC is not the voice of the population at large. You were wrong.

MY whole thing was that a majority of the population didn't vote. It's impossible to tell from the last election or a small a poll now that's biased if a majority doesn't want him.

I know you voted for hillary and you're still mad that she didn't come out to thank all her supporters. At least you didn't vote for bernie.

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#37 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166597 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

It most certainly does in context with your statement about most Americans. The EC is not the voice of the population at large. You were wrong.

MY whole thing was that a majority of the population didn't vote. It's impossible to tell from the last election or a small a poll now that's biased if a majority doesn't want him.

I know you voted for hillary and you're still mad that she didn't come out to thank all her supporters. At least you didn't vote for bernie.

See this is why I find trumpers to be lacking. Win or lose it happens almost every 8 years. It's childish to equate criticism of a poor president with anger over losing. No one cares about the election, it's the direction of the country and who is representing it that's the problem. Frankly if your only goal in politics is to "win" no matter the consequences for the country you should stay away from the polls. And if you were taken in by trump you should have enough evidence by now that he was and is a mistake.

Nonetheless the popular vote is a good indicator of whether a president is the voice of the country. For every vote for trump that stayed home, if any actually did, you have several against him. Look up both parties. Also independents would not all vote for him either. And some of his party undoubtedly. By numbers there are roughly 12 million more registered democrats than republicans. So I think the popular vote is accurate.

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#38 Posted by Jacanuk (18606 posts) -
@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

It most certainly does in context with your statement about most Americans. The EC is not the voice of the population at large. You were wrong.

MY whole thing was that a majority of the population didn't vote. It's impossible to tell from the last election or a small a poll now that's biased if a majority doesn't want him.

I know you voted for hillary and you're still mad that she didn't come out to thank all her supporters. At least you didn't vote for bernie.

See this is why I find trumpers to be lacking. Win or lose it happens almost every 8 years. It's childish to equate criticism of a poor president with anger over losing. No one cares about the election, it's the direction of the country and who is representing it that's the problem. Frankly if your only goal in politics is to "win" no matter the consequences for the country you should stay away from the polls. And if you were taken in by trump you should have enough evidence by now that he was and is a mistake.

Nonetheless the popular vote is a good indicator of whether a president is the voice of the country. For every vote for trump that stayed home, if any actually did, you have several against him. Look up both parties. Also independents would not all vote for him either. And some of his party undoubtedly. By numbers there are roughly 12 million more registered democrats than republicans. So I think the popular vote is accurate.

You keep coming with the same absolute failed argument "bad president"

Well, the economy is booming, the average American is doing better today than he did 2 years ago so while Trump did inherit a presidency during a great economic time, He has managed to keep the progress despite the doomsday scenarios you guys on the left came up with.

Also no the popular vote is not a good indication if the President is the president especially not considering the T.D.S which people on the left have, nothing Trump could do outside of resigning would ever be good because that would shatter a made up reality the left made up because they still have not yet gotten over Hillary's loss.

And just wait when Biden is presidential candidate it will get even worse because he is not a "progressive" and the ultra-far-left Sanders supporters will have a serious mental meltdown.

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#39 Edited by LJS9502_basic (166597 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

See this is why I find trumpers to be lacking. Win or lose it happens almost every 8 years. It's childish to equate criticism of a poor president with anger over losing. No one cares about the election, it's the direction of the country and who is representing it that's the problem. Frankly if your only goal in politics is to "win" no matter the consequences for the country you should stay away from the polls. And if you were taken in by trump you should have enough evidence by now that he was and is a mistake.

Nonetheless the popular vote is a good indicator of whether a president is the voice of the country. For every vote for trump that stayed home, if any actually did, you have several against him. Look up both parties. Also independents would not all vote for him either. And some of his party undoubtedly. By numbers there are roughly 12 million more registered democrats than republicans. So I think the popular vote is accurate.

You keep coming with the same absolute failed argument "bad president"

Well, the economy is booming, the average American is doing better today than he did 2 years ago so while Trump did inherit a presidency during a great economic time, He has managed to keep the progress despite the doomsday scenarios you guys on the left came up with.

Also no the popular vote is not a good indication if the President is the president especially not considering the T.D.S which people on the left have, nothing Trump could do outside of resigning would ever be good because that would shatter a made up reality the left made up because they still have not yet gotten over Hillary's loss.

And just wait when Biden is presidential candidate it will get even worse because he is not a "progressive" and the ultra-far-left Sanders supporters will have a serious mental meltdown.

Doing better? Farmers needed a bail out. His administration is constantly having court cases. His campaign/admin has criminal convictions and constant turn over. We're no longer the country to lead the world and allies are no longer backing us up. Global economic activity is slowing down and the trade is expected to make that much worse. In effect what's happening is what happened at the start of the last recession. There is growing government debt. US consumer debt is increasing. Interest rates are uncertain. And of the course the two I already mentioned. The political environment vis a vis the world and the global economic activity.

None of this has to do with the personal decisions of the last election nor the made up name TDS so trump voters would actually have to pay attention the facts and see their king is a sham.

But continue using TDS as your excuse. Shows me how little you understand reality.

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#40 Posted by Blackhairedhero (3233 posts) -

@Nuck81: Did you just accuse someone of having a meltdown? Bahahaha that's ironic.

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#41 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

See this is why I find trumpers to be lacking. Win or lose it happens almost every 8 years. It's childish to equate criticism of a poor president with anger over losing. No one cares about the election, it's the direction of the country and who is representing it that's the problem. Frankly if your only goal in politics is to "win" no matter the consequences for the country you should stay away from the polls. And if you were taken in by trump you should have enough evidence by now that he was and is a mistake.

Nonetheless the popular vote is a good indicator of whether a president is the voice of the country. For every vote for trump that stayed home, if any actually did, you have several against him. Look up both parties. Also independents would not all vote for him either. And some of his party undoubtedly. By numbers there are roughly 12 million more registered democrats than republicans. So I think the popular vote is accurate.

You keep coming with the same absolute failed argument "bad president"

Well, the economy is booming, the average American is doing better today than he did 2 years ago so while Trump did inherit a presidency during a great economic time, He has managed to keep the progress despite the doomsday scenarios you guys on the left came up with.

Also no the popular vote is not a good indication if the President is the president especially not considering the T.D.S which people on the left have, nothing Trump could do outside of resigning would ever be good because that would shatter a made up reality the left made up because they still have not yet gotten over Hillary's loss.

And just wait when Biden is presidential candidate it will get even worse because he is not a "progressive" and the ultra-far-left Sanders supporters will have a serious mental meltdown.

Doing better? Farmers needed a bail out. His administration is constantly having court cases. His campaign/admin has criminal convictions and constant turn over. We're no longer the country to lead the world and allies are no longer backing us up. Global economic activity is slowing down and the trade is expected to make that much worse. In effect what's happening is what happened at the start of the last recession. There is growing government debt. US consumer debt is increasing. Interest rates are uncertain. And of the course the two I already mentioned. The political environment vis a vis the world and the global economic activity.

None of this has to do with the personal decisions of the last election nor the made up name TDS so trump voters would actually have to pay attention the facts and see their king is a sham.

But continue using TDS as your excuse. Shows me how little you understand reality.

Can you point to a time where all these weren't true?

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#42 Posted by Jacanuk (18606 posts) -
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

See this is why I find trumpers to be lacking. Win or lose it happens almost every 8 years. It's childish to equate criticism of a poor president with anger over losing. No one cares about the election, it's the direction of the country and who is representing it that's the problem. Frankly if your only goal in politics is to "win" no matter the consequences for the country you should stay away from the polls. And if you were taken in by trump you should have enough evidence by now that he was and is a mistake.

Nonetheless the popular vote is a good indicator of whether a president is the voice of the country. For every vote for trump that stayed home, if any actually did, you have several against him. Look up both parties. Also independents would not all vote for him either. And some of his party undoubtedly. By numbers there are roughly 12 million more registered democrats than republicans. So I think the popular vote is accurate.

You keep coming with the same absolute failed argument "bad president"

Well, the economy is booming, the average American is doing better today than he did 2 years ago so while Trump did inherit a presidency during a great economic time, He has managed to keep the progress despite the doomsday scenarios you guys on the left came up with.

Also no the popular vote is not a good indication if the President is the president especially not considering the T.D.S which people on the left have, nothing Trump could do outside of resigning would ever be good because that would shatter a made up reality the left made up because they still have not yet gotten over Hillary's loss.

And just wait when Biden is presidential candidate it will get even worse because he is not a "progressive" and the ultra-far-left Sanders supporters will have a serious mental meltdown.

Doing better? Farmers needed a bail out. His administration is constantly having court cases. His campaign/admin has criminal convictions and constant turn over. We're no longer the country to lead the world and allies are no longer backing us up. Global economic activity is slowing down and the trade is expected to make that much worse. In effect what's happening is what happened at the start of the last recession. There is growing government debt. US consumer debt is increasing. Interest rates are uncertain. And of the course the two I already mentioned. The political environment vis a vis the world and the global economic activity.

None of this has to do with the personal decisions of the last election nor the made up name TDS so trump voters would actually have to pay attention the facts and see their king is a sham.

But continue using TDS as your excuse. Shows me how little you understand reality.

Yes, the average American is doing better, and thanks for proving my point with the T.D.S.

As to the court cases well again thanks for proving my point, as I said the left has still not gotten over their loss so Trump´s administration could not fart without someone claiming it was a gas attack and demanding court action, it´s a huge misuse of the legal system and we have judges who are scared of being seen as on Trump´s side so they wash their hands and just rule in favour of the perceived right side and leave the mess for the higher courts.

Farmers? I did not say anything about people who own their own business, I specifically said Average Americans and if you talk about soy farmers, well the fight with China is long overdue and we need to deal with this massive unfair trade market with China who long enough has taken advantage of the democratic b....less presidents.

But don´t worry i have not nor would i ever expect you to agree with anything , so let´s agree to disagree and move on.

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#43 Edited by Zaryia (9000 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:

Most Americans do not want Trump reelected at the moment.

Why are you so upset by this fact?

Most Americans do, that's why he's president.

Have you had every single person give their thoughts, or some small sample size that you believe to be accurate in a very unpredicable and ever changing landscape?

You have an educated opinion, nothing more.

You can't say most Americans when he didn't get the popular vote dude. Logic 101.

Most of the country didn't even vote. Impossible to determine DUDE.

60 million sample size = good.

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#44 Edited by Baconstrip78 (1380 posts) -

He’s going to get steamrolled by whoever the Dems run.

I have a $1k outstanding wager to anyone in my life that Trump will not serve another 4 years as President and even my most staunch Trump supporting coworkers, family, and friends will not take the bet.

That House flip was a referendum on Trump, and anyone that voted in the midterms at any sizable district were probably met by long lines like I was full of Millenials that came out to vote straight blue ticket.

It’s going to be a massacre.

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#45 Posted by N64DD (11923 posts) -

@Baconstrip78: ill take a bet with you. If you lose, you’re done with gamespot.

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#46 Posted by watercrack445 (1660 posts) -

@Baconstrip78 said:

He’s going to get steamrolled by whoever the Dems run.

I have a $1k outstanding wager to anyone in my life that Trump will not serve another 4 years as President and even my most staunch Trump supporting coworkers, family, and friends will not take the bet.

That House flip was a referendum on Trump, and anyone that voted in the midterms at any sizable district were probably met by long lines like I was full of Millenials that came out to vote straight blue ticket.

It’s going to be a massacre.

This time the whole Congress is going to turn blue.

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#47 Posted by Jacanuk (18606 posts) -
@zaryia said:

60 million sample size = good.

Not really considering that is around 25% of the actual possible voters

So saying something like "Over half the country does not want Trump as President" is factual wrong. Same goes for saying half the country wants Trump as President.

And only 55% voted in 2016, which means that almost half of the possible voters did not even bother going down to the polls and registered their vote.

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#48 Edited by Zaryia (9000 posts) -
@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:

60 million sample size = good.

Not really considering that is around 25% of the actual possible voters

So saying something like "Over half the country does not want Trump as President" is factual wrong. Same goes for saying half the country wants Trump as President.

And only 55% voted in 2016, which means that almost half of the possible voters did not even bother going down to the polls and registered their vote.

Lol what, 25% of an entire demographic is an extremely good sample size lol. Regular polls use a few thousand, sometimes 1-2 thousand. 60 million out of 327 million is off the charts, and will give you a very accurate picture. This is statistics 101.

https://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/references/sample-size-surveys

I can say with confidence based off of the statistical data (mass polling) a majority of this country does not want to reelect Trump (as of today, that can change) and that most of them do not approve of Trump (again, as of today). I can and will state this as a fact. Clearly this can all change as public opinion changes.

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#49 Posted by phbz (4503 posts) -

Oh god please DO reelect him!!!

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#50 Edited by jeezers (3016 posts) -

I dont take these polls too seriously. 42-46% Approval rating is actually pretty good and pretty much at what obama was at the end of his first.

Think about it, right now you have a packed democratic field, there's like 14 democrats running.

There are going to be people that dont approve because they have a certain canidate they are rooting for. There are dem boomers that dont want a bernie or yang.

There are dem progressives that dont want a Biden or Elizabeth Warren.

Its trump vs a packed field right now, just wait untill the DNC puts out thier preferred canidate. Then youll see a clearer picture, I think trump will win big and alot of you people are going to be shocked.... Again