Poll #4: Who is going to win the 2020 Democratic primary?

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Poll Poll #4: Who is going to win the 2020 Democratic primary? (44 votes)

Michael Bennet 0%
Joe Biden 18%
Michael Bloomberg 5%
Pete Buttigieg 9%
Tulsi Gabbard 2%
Amy Klobuchar 5%
Deval Patrick 0%
Bernie Sanders 55%
Tom Steyer 0%
Elizabeth Warren 2%
Andrew Yang 5%

The question is simple: Who do you think will win the 2020 Democratic presidential primary?

Not who do you want to win it, but who will win. But of course, you are more than welcome to share your preferred candidate.

The poll will be ran from time to time to see how our predictions change. The poll will stay open for about 9 days or so.

The results from the 3rd poll were:

  • Joe Biden: 29%
  • Elizabeth Warren: 26%
  • Bernie Sanders: 24%
  • Andrew Yang: 9%
  • Michael Bloomberg: 6%
  • Pete Buttigieg: 6%
  • Everyone else: 0%
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#1 Horgen  Moderator
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I think Joe Biden will win, hoping for Warren or Sanders though.

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@horgen: Surprisingly Sanders is now reportedly the most likely with something like 2:5 odds.

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#3  Edited By SOedipus
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I think Sanders will win. I'm hoping for Yang to win but I don't have that much faith. Make America Think Harder. He's the least identity-politics and Trump obsessed.

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Im really starting to realize DNC is a sham. Any person even with limited internet access can tell Bernie has a LOT more support than all the others combined. Stupid DNC with their stupid delegates. Why should we care about delegates more than votes?

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#5  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@nishanth12 said:

Im really starting to realize DNC is a sham. Any person even with limited internet access can tell Bernie has a LOT more support than all the others combined. Stupid DNC with their stupid delegates. Why should we care about delegates more than votes?

Elections are held for a reason. Also different demographics have different interests.

On topic I think it's way too early to say..…….

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@nishanth12 said:

Im really starting to realize DNC is a sham. Any person even with limited internet access can tell Bernie has a LOT more support than all the others combined. Stupid DNC with their stupid delegates. Why should we care about delegates more than votes?

many of us figured that out in 2016

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@nishanth12 said:

Im really starting to realize DNC is a sham. Any person even with limited internet access can tell Bernie has a LOT more support than all the others combined. Stupid DNC with their stupid delegates. Why should we care about delegates more than votes?

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How can you call this a sham? This proof of democracy in action. God bless America.

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#8 hrt_rulz01
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Probably Biden... which would be a huge mistake because I think only Bernie or maybe Warren has a chance of beating Trump.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Probably Biden... which would be a huge mistake because I think only Bernie or maybe Warren has a chance of beating Trump.

Bernie does not have a chance to beat trump. He appeals to a demographic that is not shared by the majority even in the Democratic party let along Independents and disaffected Republicans.

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It's awesome seeing people who clutch their pearls when it comes to the Republicans, perfectly fine with the DNC trying to screw over Sanders, because "Sanders can't win".

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I'd rather have Warren or Sanders. I agree with most of their positions but the reality is that the House and the Senate need to be solid democratic majorities, and that the democratic party and liberals need to be on the forefront of the issues they're fighting for rather than cowering against GOP nutjobs. Additionally, Democrats and liberals as a whole need to stop bickering among each other and work together and vote.

I'm not going to suggest that Biden will win after the Iowa poll and that I feel it's too early to determine.

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@leftrightdivide said:

It's awesome seeing people who clutch their pearls when it comes to the Republicans, perfectly fine with the DNC trying to screw over Sanders, because "Sanders can't win".

Sanders isn't being screwed over. Stop looking for conspiracies everywhere.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@leftrightdivide said:

It's awesome seeing people who clutch their pearls when it comes to the Republicans, perfectly fine with the DNC trying to screw over Sanders, because "Sanders can't win".

Sanders isn't being screwed over. Stop looking for conspiracies everywhere.

Stop closing your eyes to the DNC's corruption.

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#14  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@leftrightdivide said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@leftrightdivide said:

It's awesome seeing people who clutch their pearls when it comes to the Republicans, perfectly fine with the DNC trying to screw over Sanders, because "Sanders can't win".

Sanders isn't being screwed over. Stop looking for conspiracies everywhere.

Stop closing your eyes to the DNC's corruption.

That isn't proof. I require proof.

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I think it will be a weird year for democrats like 2016 was for republicans, and we will end up with Sanders. That's my gut feeling anyways.

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lol https://babylonbee.com/news/frontrunner-joe-biden-drops-out-of-race-after-being-hit-with-blue-shell?fbclid=IwAR2rh2_BIrfnsCmdg-Swm-39pzhiJk_DlDAJCvGtrNDWF7jLaGoNZhDuk30

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#17  Edited By Serraph105
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@LJS9502_basic: "Sanders isn't being screwed over. Stop looking for conspiracies everywhere."

I don't want to sound like I'm shouting "conspiracy", but Bernie did get the majority of votes in Iowa, and yet he did not get the majority of delegates, though it was very close.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/iowa_democratic_caucus_results.html

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@Serraph105: The problem with the Iowa caucus is that they get votes for second choice as well and I think Pete had a lot of second choices.

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@SOedipus: Yang has done surprisingly well for coming out of nowhere. He won't win, but I don't think this is the last we will see of him.

Anyway, my top pick is still Warren, but I have little doubt Sanders would make her Treasury Secretary. She's probably more suited for that role.

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#20  Edited By LeftRightDivide
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@LJS9502_basic said:

That isn't proof. I require proof.

https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1225167351617712128/photo/1

https://twitter.com/blysx/status/1225199595241607169/photo/1

They had to go back and correct the results because they were different than those that were reported.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/dnc-taking-over-accounting-results-in-iowa-after-botched-caucus-report/

The DNC used the app failure to take over the Iowa Caucus accounting. They were the ones who decided to trickle the numbers out, while Buttgieg (whose campaign had links to the app creator) claimed victory.

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/04/iowa-caucus-app-shadow-acronym/

“ACRONYM is an investor in several for-profit companies across the progressive media and technology sectors,” Tharp said. “One of those independent, for-profit companies is Shadow, Inc, which also has other private investors.”

David Plouffe, a former campaign manager to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential bid who joined Acronym’s board, also distanced himself from the company during an MSNBC panel last night. “I have no knowledge of Shadow,” said Plouffe. “It was news to me.”

But previous statements and internal Acronym documents suggest that the two companies, which share office space in Denver, Colorado, are deeply intertwined.

Last year, McGowan, a co-founder of Acronym, wrote on Twitterthat she was “so excited to announce @anotheracronym has acquired Groundbase,” a firm that included “their incredible team led by [Gerard Niemira] + are launching Shadow, a new tech company to build smarter infrastructure for campaigns.” McGowan also noted that “With Shadow, we’re building a new model incentivized by adoption over growth.” The acquisition was announced in mid-January of last year.

In an interview on a related podcast last month, McGowan described Niemira as “the CEO of Shadow, which is the technology company that Acronym is the sole investor in now.”

What’s more, internal documents from Acronym show a close relationship with Shadow. An internal organizational chart shows digital strategy firm Lockwood Strategy, FWIW Media, and Shadow as part of a unified structure, with Acronym staff involved in the trio’s operations.

Shadow was launched by former staffers to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign, including Niemira, Krista Davis, Ahna Rao, and James Hickey, according to professional biographies listed on LinkedIn. Shadow did not respond to a request for comment.

Tara McGowan has publicly backed Buttgieg.

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I want Buttigieg to win, and honestly I think he could if the DNC let him, but I think it will come down to Sanders and Warren.

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#22  Edited By Shmiity
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I am going to see The Strokes and Bernie Sanders Monday in NH and i'm f*cking pumped. Lets go

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#23 TomaLevine
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No way Bernie wins but if he does... he has my vote. That said I will vote straight repub ticket aside from him to block his policies.

He is a like able face for America and his foreign policy of getting out of countries that want us out will be grand

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#24  Edited By Master_Live
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Yang is out.

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#25 Mighty-Lu-Bu
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The left media has never been too fond of Bernie Sanders and for good reason- he's nothing more than a commie. I think he's going to get snubbed again and I am predicting that Biden will announce the end of his presidential run by the end of the week. Elizabeth Warren did pretty bad too and she is starting to fall off as well- expect her to make an announcement soon. That leaves the Democrats with Buttigieg and Klobuchar with the latter being the only Democratic candidate to disavow socialism- I respect Amy Klobuchar and she is probably the most moderate Democratic candidate.

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#26  Edited By Master_Live
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After 10 days and 33 votes the results are:

  • Bernie Sanders: 55%
  • Joe Biden: 18%
  • Pete Buttigieg: 9%
  • Amy Klobuchar: 6%
  • Michael Bloomberg: 3%
  • Tulsi Gabbard: 3%
  • Elizabeth Warren: 3%
  • Andrew Yang: 3%
  • Everyone else: 0%

Thank you to all of you that participated!

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No one. Bloomberg will take the nomination in a contested convention.

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#29 Horgen  Moderator
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@leicam6 said:

No one. Bloomberg will take the nomination in a contested convention.

So an actual rich guy instead of a fake one? :P

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Well, if Sanders had a delegates/votes plurality and Bloomberg were to be chosen that would guarantee Trump's reelection.

But the fun, the absolute fun of watching the party tear itself apart wouldn't be like anything before it. Can you imagine it?

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@Master_Live said:

Well, if Sanders had a delegates/votes plurality and Bloomberg were to be chosen that would guarantee Trump's reelection.

But the fun, the absolute fun of watching the party tear itself apart wouldn't be like anything before it. Can you imagine it?

Sanders actually is an Independent not a Democrat. Also the Republicans have already torn themselves apart.

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@leicam6 said:

No one. Bloomberg will take the nomination in a contested convention.

No-one would dare to take away a certain win if the winner is Sanders, Biden or Warren.

Also, Bloomberg, i am almost 100% certain does not want to be president, he just does not want Trump to win again and that is the only reason he is running.

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#33  Edited By Master_Live
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It doesn't matter if Sanders is a Martian, if he has a plurality and isn't chosen 1968 is going to look like a picnic.

Sanders' people would not only either not vote, vote 3rd party or even vote Trump, but they would actively campaign openly or behind the scenes against the Democratic nominee.

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#34  Edited By Serraph105
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Serraph105: The problem with the Iowa caucus is that they get votes for second choice as well and I think Pete had a lot of second choices.

Just for record keeping purposes I would like to make note that, just like Iowa, Sanders won in New Hampshire by several thousand votes there as well, but tied with Buttigieg for delegates. So, two popular vote wins yet one second place finish, and one tie so far.

And Sanders is currently in 2nd place nationally in delegates.

It's still early, but to me that math doesn't add up.

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@Jacanuk: You’re underestimating how much the Democratic establishment and third way centrists despise Bernie. They’d sooner destroy the entire party than have him as a nominee and dismantle the plutocracy that is the US.

Bloomberg absolutely wants to be president. He doesn’t need to be personally running himself to “stop Bernie”.

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@leicam6 said:

@Jacanuk: You’re underestimating how much the Democratic establishment and third way centrists despise Bernie. They’d sooner destroy the entire party than have him as a nominee and dismantle the plutocracy that is the US.

Bloomberg absolutely wants to be president. He doesn’t need to be personally running himself to “stop Bernie”.

Maybe underestimating it , but if Bernie wins a clear victory in the normal election, it would be politcal suicide and almost 100% guarantee Trump´s re-election if they did that

As to Bloomberg, hmm you may be right but i don´t think it´s just about stopping Bernie, it´s also about the e-peen contest Trump and Bloomberg has.

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@Jacanuk: Oh, well, if he wins a clear majority then it won’t happen. A plurality, though, anything could happen. I wouldn’t put it past the Democrats to do something like that.

Bloomberg has the cash and has been buying up influence and endorsements by the boatload in the past few months and weeks. And this has coincided with his draft rise in the polls. He seems to definitely be in it to win it and has to be only emboldened now by Biden’s abysmal performance. He’s worth 60 billion and is literally buying the nomination.

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@leicam6 said:

@Jacanuk: Oh, well, if he wins a clear majority then it won’t happen. A plurality, though, anything could happen. I wouldn’t put it past the Democrats to do something like that.

Bloomberg has the cash and has been buying up influence and endorsements by the boatload in the past few months and weeks. And this has coincided with his draft rise in the polls. He seems to definitely be in it to win it and has to be only emboldened now by Biden’s abysmal performance. He’s worth 60 billion and is literally buying the nomination.

I have thought about it and even if it´s not a clear cut victory, if he has the popular vote or gets close in delegates and it ends up being supers which are deciding this, it will backfire terribly if they don´t turn to Bernie.

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@leicam6 said:

@Jacanuk: Oh, well, if he wins a clear majority then it won’t happen. A plurality, though, anything could happen. I wouldn’t put it past the Democrats to do something like that.

Bloomberg has the cash and has been buying up influence and endorsements by the boatload in the past few months and weeks. And this has coincided with his draft rise in the polls. He seems to definitely be in it to win it and has to be only emboldened now by Biden’s abysmal performance. He’s worth 60 billion and is literally buying the nomination.

Well yeah he's in to win it...…..who would say otherwise?

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@LJS9502_basic: Jacanuk asserted earlier that he is 100% certain Bloomberg is there only to stop Bernie and to not actually become President.

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@Jacanuk: It will definitely backfire. The Democratic Party is a disaster lol.

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@leicam6 said:

@LJS9502_basic: Jacanuk asserted earlier that he is 100% certain Bloomberg is there only to stop Bernie and to not actually become President.

That's just foolish.

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@leicam6 said:

@Jacanuk: It will definitely backfire. The Democratic Party is a disaster lol.

The problem is some of the candidates need to drop out to stop splitting the votes.

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@LJS9502_basic: Jacanuk asserted earlier that he is 100% certain Bloomberg is there only to stop Bernie and to not actually become President.

Ehmmm no i never said anything about Bloomberg and Bernie, i said Trump.

I said he was there because of the e-peen contest with Trump and he wants to be the one to beat Trump.

And the reasoning for being there does not mean he does not want to win, but if the president had been Clinton or Pence, you think he would have even considered running.

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@Jacanuk said:
@leicam6 said:

@LJS9502_basic: Jacanuk asserted earlier that he is 100% certain Bloomberg is there only to stop Bernie and to not actually become President.

Ehmmm no i never said anything about Bloomberg and Bernie, i said Trump.

I said he was there because of the e-peen contest with Trump and he wants to be the one to beat Trump.

And the reasoning for being there does not mean he does not want to win, but if the president had been Clinton or Pence, you think he would have even considered running.

He doesn't consider them threats to the country. Duh.

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#46 AlexKidd5000
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All signs point to Bernie winning the nomination.

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@AlexKidd5000 said:

All signs point to Bernie winning the nomination.

Bernie nearly lost his own state to Pete, winning by less than 4,000 votes.

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#48 Jacanuk
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@AlexKidd5000 said:

All signs point to Bernie winning the nomination.

Considering how many delegates and "elections" that are left, no it does not point to that.

It will, however, all depend on super Tuesday March 3rd.

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#49  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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I'd pick Sanders over trump or any other DNC candidate for only one reason and that he's probably the candidate who is most serious about climate change. Bernie's plan to rack up the debt by giving everyone free health care and education isn't something I can agree with. Personally I'd prefer a person who would let the free market decide the economy. Less interference by the government, less patents, copyright trademarks and other government scams designed to keep their rich donors rich. Get rid of these scam commie policies and the market will very quickly correct itself. Education and healthcare will also become a lot more affordable.

I am interested to see what Bernie can do though. He's far more legitimate than any other candidate. I might not agree with him but I can say that he's a stand up guy with solid moral compass.

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#50 watercrack445  Online
Member since 2017 • 2394 Posts

Hillary Clinton wants to become the VP to Bloomberg. lol

Hillary Clinton is so desperate that she would like to become a VP. Oh yeah, She is most likely going to run for candidacy for 2024.

She is so hungry for power.