Mueller's Report to be released Thursday, April 18th.

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#1 Posted by michaelmikado (309 posts) -

The Justice Department expects to release on Thursday a redacted version of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report on President Trump, his associates and Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, setting the stage for further battles in Congress over the politically explosive inquiry.

Kerri Kupec, a spokeswoman for the department, said Monday that officials plan to issue the report to Congress and the public on Thursday morning.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-reports-release-is-expected-thursday-justice-dept-says/2019/04/15/dd44eb02-5f91-11e9-9412-daf3d2e67c6d_story.html?utm_term=.15009ed7780e

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#2 Posted by warmblur (2168 posts) -

Edition.

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#3 Posted by joebones5000 (2117 posts) -

Barr's bastardization of it will be released, I'm sure.

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#4 Posted by michaelmikado (309 posts) -

@joebones5000:

Barr will do his job, he’s not about to throw away 30+ years of experience and ties to people like Mueller and Rosenstein over something like this. He knows exactly what he’s doing and every single word, period, and comment in his summary was placed there for a reason. If Barr was going through all the effort to cover things up permanently why would he specifically state in his summary that the findings did not exonerate anyone? He was able to write anything and specifically placed that phrase in his first summary for a reason.

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@michaelmikado said:

@joebones5000:

Barr will do his job, he’s not about to throw away 30+ years of experience and ties to people like Mueller and Rosenstein over something like this. He knows exactly what he’s doing and every single word, period, and comment in his summary was placed there for a reason. If Barr was going through all the effort to cover things up permanently why would he specifically state in his summary that the findings did not exonerate anyone? He was able to write anything and specifically placed that phrase in his first summary for a reason.

Please. He has a history of misleading congress. He's done it before.

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#7 Posted by michaelmikado (309 posts) -

@joebones5000 said:
@michaelmikado said:

@joebones5000:

Barr will do his job, he’s not about to throw away 30+ years of experience and ties to people like Mueller and Rosenstein over something like this. He knows exactly what he’s doing and every single word, period, and comment in his summary was placed there for a reason. If Barr was going through all the effort to cover things up permanently why would he specifically state in his summary that the findings did not exonerate anyone? He was able to write anything and specifically placed that phrase in his first summary for a reason.

Please. He has a history of misleading congress. He's done it before.

When?

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#8 Posted by joebones5000 (2117 posts) -

@michaelmikado said:
@joebones5000 said:
@michaelmikado said:

@joebones5000:

Barr will do his job, he’s not about to throw away 30+ years of experience and ties to people like Mueller and Rosenstein over something like this. He knows exactly what he’s doing and every single word, period, and comment in his summary was placed there for a reason. If Barr was going through all the effort to cover things up permanently why would he specifically state in his summary that the findings did not exonerate anyone? He was able to write anything and specifically placed that phrase in his first summary for a reason.

Please. He has a history of misleading congress. He's done it before.

When?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/15/1850434/-This-isn-t-the-first-time-William-Barr-tried-to-fool-Congress-and-the-nation-with-a-summary

He likes "summaries".

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#9 Posted by michaelmikado (309 posts) -

@joebones5000:

Yes here’s what actually happened:

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/30-years-ago-william-barr-misled-the-public-about-the-contents-of-a-legal-memo/

Obviously he omitted information to create a narrative for the summary but none of that information was excluded from the full report.

The summaries are used as political tools, the reports have the level of due legal diligence attached. The idea that somehow Barr is going to skit around releasing the report is unfounded when he plead to deliver a copy of a 2 year investigation in a matter of weeks, not months or years.

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#10 Posted by joebones5000 (2117 posts) -

@michaelmikado said:

@joebones5000:

Yes here’s what actually happened:

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/30-years-ago-william-barr-misled-the-public-about-the-contents-of-a-legal-memo/

Obviously he omitted information to create a narrative for the summary but none of that information was excluded from the full report.

The summaries are used as political tools, the reports have the level of due legal diligence attached. The idea that somehow Barr is going to skit around releasing the report is unfounded when he plead to deliver a copy of a 2 year investigation in a matter of weeks, not months or years.

Hopefully the courts will agree that the intel committee needs the full, unredacted report. No one should trust barr and his redacted report and summary.

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#11 Posted by SaltSlasher (1006 posts) -

I don't need the full report, but those who will judge Trump should be given all information.

The sad thing, even if people find terrible things he's done, none of his ignorant supporters will change their minds, I mean look how big of a bastard he's been and people still cheer his name.

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#12 Edited by warmblur (2168 posts) -

Reading the sharpie edition of Mueller's report will go something like this.

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#13 Posted by Nuck81 (7440 posts) -

Dummy Donald is having a typical Twitter meltdown this morning.

He sure is trying to deflect from a document that totally exonerated him.

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#14 Edited by Chutebox (44495 posts) -

Special counsel agreed to the redactions...people.will still cry

Dude on our right scares me

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#16 Posted by N64DD (11687 posts) -

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

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#17 Posted by MosquitoBaby (77 posts) -

@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

Liar. You seriously read the 200+ pages? Jesus, Trump supporters and their lies.

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#18 Posted by michaelmikado (309 posts) -

@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

Please detail specifics of the nothing. Who and why and what special counsel events specifically lead to which conclusions.

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#19 Posted by N64DD (11687 posts) -

@michaelmikado said:
@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

Please detail specifics of the nothing. Who and why and what special counsel events specifically lead to which conclusions.

How do you describe a void?

It's not that hard to read guys.

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#20 Posted by michaelmikado (309 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@michaelmikado said:
@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

Please detail specifics of the nothing. Who and why and what special counsel events specifically lead to which conclusions.

How do you describe a void?

It's not that hard to read guys.

You're right and the gaping void and emptiness of some people's minds is as transparent as their posts...

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#21 Posted by N64DD (11687 posts) -

@michaelmikado said:
@n64dd said:
@michaelmikado said:
@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

Please detail specifics of the nothing. Who and why and what special counsel events specifically lead to which conclusions.

How do you describe a void?

It's not that hard to read guys.

You're right and the gaping void and emptiness of some people's minds is as transparent as their posts...

That's a wonderful thought you have somebody's alt account. Tell me more.

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@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

I've read only about 100 pages, and it appears to keep getting worse.

It's actually pretty damning.

“How could you let this happen, Jeff?” Trump said to his then-attorney general, Jeff Sessions, when Sessions gave him the Mueller news, according to notes taken by Sessions’ former chief of staff Jody Hunt. Sessions told investigators that Trump told him “you were supposed to protect me,” or words to that effect. “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me,” Trump told Sessions.

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” the report states. “These incidents were often carried out through on-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside official channels.”

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment,” the special counsel wrote. “Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

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#23 Posted by N64DD (11687 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

I've read only about 100 pages, and it appears to keep getting worse.

It's actually pretty damning.

“How could you let this happen, Jeff?” Trump said to his then-attorney general, Jeff Sessions, when Sessions gave him the Mueller news, according to notes taken by Sessions’ former chief of staff Jody Hunt. Sessions told investigators that Trump told him “you were supposed to protect me,” or words to that effect. “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me,” Trump told Sessions.

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” the report states. “These incidents were often carried out through on-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside official channels.”

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment,” the special counsel wrote. “Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Sessions has been proven to lie about everything. Invalid.

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#24 Posted by Zaryia (8268 posts) -
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

I've read only about 100 pages, and it appears to keep getting worse.

It's actually pretty damning.

“How could you let this happen, Jeff?” Trump said to his then-attorney general, Jeff Sessions, when Sessions gave him the Mueller news, according to notes taken by Sessions’ former chief of staff Jody Hunt. Sessions told investigators that Trump told him “you were supposed to protect me,” or words to that effect. “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me,” Trump told Sessions.

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” the report states. “These incidents were often carried out through on-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside official channels.”

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment,” the special counsel wrote. “Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Sessions has been proven to lie about everything. Invalid.

I'm merely quoting the report.

Please refrain from speculation.

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#25 Posted by N64DD (11687 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:

I read the whole thing. Big nothingburger

I've read only about 100 pages, and it appears to keep getting worse.

It's actually pretty damning.

“How could you let this happen, Jeff?” Trump said to his then-attorney general, Jeff Sessions, when Sessions gave him the Mueller news, according to notes taken by Sessions’ former chief of staff Jody Hunt. Sessions told investigators that Trump told him “you were supposed to protect me,” or words to that effect. “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me,” Trump told Sessions.

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” the report states. “These incidents were often carried out through on-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside official channels.”

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment,” the special counsel wrote. “Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Sessions has been proven to lie about everything. Invalid.

I'm merely quoting the report.

Please refrain from speculation.

It's well documented that Sessions has lied under oath.

So that is meaningless to me.

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#26 Posted by Zaryia (8268 posts) -
@n64dd said:

It's well documented that...

Please stop getting mad at excerpts from the damning Mueller Report.

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#27 Posted by N64DD (11687 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:

It's well documented that...

Please stop getting mad at excerpts from the damning Mueller Report.

Stating the obvious isn't anger. I understand that Trump is free of charge here. I'm not the one that interjects your politics everywhere on the boards and gets shut down.

It's ok you voted for Hillary and lost, She wasn't with you.

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#28 Edited by Zaryia (8268 posts) -

@n64dd said:
@zaryia said:
@n64dd said:

It's well documented that...

Please stop getting mad at excerpts from the damning Mueller Report.

I'm not the one that interjects your politics

Then stop getting mad at quotes from the damning report. So anyways back to the topic,

V1 Page 8. In his summary of events post 2016, Mueller says Trump engaged in efforts to curtail his investigation

President Trump reacted negatively to the Special Counsel's appointment. He told advisors that it was the end of his presidency, sought to have Attorney General Jefferson (Jeff) Sessions unrecuse from the Russia investigation and to have the Special Counsel removed, and engaged in efforts to curtail the Special Counsel's investigation and prevent the disclosure of evidence to it, including through public and private contacts with potential witnesses.

On July 27 2016, Unit 26165 targeted email accounts connected to candidate Clinton's personal office . Earlier that day, candidate Trump made public statements that included the following: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."183 The "30,000 emails" were apparently a reference to emails described in media accounts as having been stored on a personal server that candidate Clinton had used while serving as Secretary of State. Within approximately five hours of Trump's statement, GRU officers targeted for the first time Clinton's personal office... It is unclear how the GRU was able to identify these email accounts, which were not public.

  • Trump's aides refused his orders: Mueller’s report paints a vivid picture of Trump’s aides repeatedly ignoring or brushing aside his dictates — both in the interest of guarding the President from his own worst instincts and of protecting themselves from further legal implications.
  • Mueller declined to prosecute some close to Trump: The special counsel declined to prosecute “several” people on a range of charges, including Donald Trump Jr. and then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
  • Mueller looked into the tapes: The special counsel examined whether President Trump learned during the presidential campaign of the rumored existence of compromising tapes made of him years earlier when he visited Moscow.
  • About Trump's written answers: Mueller considered Trump’s written responses “inadequate” and sought an interview with Trump — but ultimately decided not to issue a subpoena for the interview.
  • This is who financed an effort to get Clinton's emails: Security contractor Erik Prince, who is the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, helped finance an effort to obtain Hillary Clinton's deleted emails in 2016.
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#29 Posted by sonicare (56652 posts) -

Kaboom. So, did he collude with Russia? Sounds like he was apt to obstruct justice, but his aides wouldn't follow through.

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#30 Posted by Jacanuk (18282 posts) -
@sonicare said:

Kaboom. So, did he collude with Russia? Sounds like he was apt to obstruct justice, but his aides wouldn't follow through.

No, Trump did not collude with anyone.

But the far-left will spin it as he did even though even the leftist CNN has no collision as well.

MSNBC on the other hand though is all over this with "TRUMP COLLUDED breaking news."