Migrant Caravan Grows as it Continues Push Toward the United States.

Master_Live · 2018-10-21 08:49:35

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/migrant-caravan-grows-as-it-continues-push-toward-the-united-states.htmlMexican efforts to stop the caravan of migrants from Central America at the border with Guatemala failed and their number keeps growing. As of Sunday, the numbers of migrants taking part in the caravan had swelled to anywhere from 5,000 people, according to the Associated Press to 7,000, according to the Los Angeles Times. Most of those taking part in the caravan that has turned into a rallying cry for President Donald Trump ahead of the midterm elections are from Honduras.The size of the caravan “was a startling development,” notes BuzzFeed, pointing out that it didn’t seem to have more than 4,000 people last week. The Associated Press also notes it wasn’t quite clear “where the additional travelers came from” but it did point out that “people have been joining and leaving the caravan daily, some moving at their own pace and strung out in a series of columns.”Trump’s threat of closing the border on the caravan is not deterring the migrants, most of whom say they are escaping economic and humanitarian hardship in their home countries. An effort by the Mexican police Friday to prevent the migrants from crossing the border failed spectacularly and while Mexican authorities are keeping close watch on the thousands of migrants they are not preventing them from making their way north.As of Sunday it seemed only a small fraction of the migrants were planning to apply for asylum in Mexico with the vast majority saying they plan to try their luck crossing into the United States. Although Mexico had previously said that anyone who didn’t apply for asylum would be deported, that plan seems to have been abandoned in part likely due to the sheer size of the caravan.Trump continued his attack on the caravan Sunday, writing on Twitter that “full efforts are being made to stop the onslaught of illegal aliens.” The president warned that anyone who doesn’t apply for asylum in Mexico first will be turned away. Making clear that the caravan had turned into a key campaign issue, Trump said that the caravans were a “disgrace to the Democrat Party.” On Friday, Trump had said that some members of the caravan were “hardened criminals.” When a reporter asked what evidence he had of that, Trump dismissed the question as ridiculous: “Oh, please. Please. Don’t be a baby, OK?”What is the plan, to arrive the day before the midterms? Trump isn't known for his delicate touch, this is a situation that might need to be deftly handled. Could turnout to be a disaster.

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#201 LJS9502_basic

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@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

So you don't want the Feds which have the money to actually address the immigration issue...........you'd rather just demonize the immigrants...........which are poor people trying to provide for their family. Spoken like a true conservative. Screw the poor...........support the wealthy.

Until you remove the safety net.....ie the employment.......you cannot and will not stop illegal immigration. So it appears you support it

Of course, I want the Feds to have the money to round up illegals and I also want them to have much broader actions against states that act as sanctuary cities.

But you cannot argue your way past state rights and it´s the job of the state to punish those companies who hire the illegals and as you correctly see, help the illegals stay in the country.

You're advocating for the federal government to attack states? Wow. You're not an American patriot.

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#202 Jacanuk

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

Until you remove the safety net.....ie the employment.......you cannot and will not stop illegal immigration. So it appears you support it

Of course, I want the Feds to have the money to round up illegals and I also want them to have much broader actions against states that act as sanctuary cities.

But you cannot argue your way past state rights and it´s the job of the state to punish those companies who hire the illegals and as you correctly see, help the illegals stay in the country.

You're advocating for the federal government to attack states? Wow. You're not an American patriot.

Attack? are you drunk.

I am advocating for withdrawal of Federal funding for states that help illegals stay in the country.

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#203 360mli

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#204 LJS9502_basic

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@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

You're advocating for the federal government to attack states? Wow. You're not an American patriot.

Attack? are you drunk.

I am advocating for withdrawal of Federal funding for states that help illegals stay in the country.

A fiscal attack leaving citizens who pay taxes..........federal taxes.........with a net loss. If we're withholding funds they shouldn't have to pay tax.

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#205 Jacanuk

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

You're advocating for the federal government to attack states? Wow. You're not an American patriot.

Attack? are you drunk.

I am advocating for withdrawal of Federal funding for states that help illegals stay in the country.

A fiscal attack leaving citizens who pay taxes..........federal taxes.........with a net loss. If we're withholding funds they shouldn't have to pay tax.

And? citizens vote so if they vote in people who don´t have their best interest at heart then that is their problem.

And of course they should pay federal tax, It´s still the United States of America.

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#206 LJS9502_basic

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@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

You're advocating for the federal government to attack states? Wow. You're not an American patriot.

Attack? are you drunk.

I am advocating for withdrawal of Federal funding for states that help illegals stay in the country.

A fiscal attack leaving citizens who pay taxes..........federal taxes.........with a net loss. If we're withholding funds they shouldn't have to pay tax.

And? citizens vote so if they vote in people who don´t have their best interest at heart then that is their problem.

And of course they should pay federal tax, It´s still the United States of America.

And if the EC selects the less popular candidate then we CANNOT say the people voted for him.

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#207 Jacanuk

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And if the EC selects the less popular candidate then we CANNOT say the people voted for him.

Go take a cookie and stop whining.

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#208 LJS9502_basic

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@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

And if the EC selects the less popular candidate then we CANNOT say the people voted for him.

Go take a cookie and stop whining.

So you admit your statement was in fact wrong. Minority votes can win an election.

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#209 Jacanuk

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

And if the EC selects the less popular candidate then we CANNOT say the people voted for him.

Go take a cookie and stop whining.

So you admit your statement was in fact wrong. Minority votes can win an election.

LOL funny and again with the lies.

But please stop crying so much, it can´t be good for your eyes.

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#210 Edited By Kali-B1rd

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@bigfootpart2 said:

@ivangrozny said:

I see no problem here. The cost to solve this problem will be the cost of 7000 plane tickets to send them back. I think the US can afford that. The worse costs would be taking them in, then you will have to pay 7000 welfare checks for who knows how long. In the end, the leftist solution will be the most expensive. Trump's 7000 plane tickets will be the cheapest

So you are saying brown people don't work for a living and all end up on welfare. Nice. Because that's not horrendously racist or anything.

It's this kinda half-arsed rationalisation of legit concerns that causes people to be so devided... everything is racist.

I mean, yea sure buddy, its all about their skin! /s

It has nothing to do with:

1) plenty of internal unemployment to deal with already

2) language and cultural barriers cause issues.

3) You assume even 10-20% of these people will be offered jobs over better adjusted/integrated people in countries that are desperately looking for work.

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#211 narlymech

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As long as they bring tacos they contribute alot to society, so I don't mind the immigrants.

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#212 Edited By deactivated-6068afec1b77d

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@narlymech: yes, but what kind of tacos do you...:P ;)

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#213 TryIt

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@JimB said:

@tryit said:

@JimB said:

@tryit said:

@JimB said:

No halo, the fact that I have to prove I am a citizen because people choose to enter this country illegally ranks the same s all the hoops you have to go through to fly on a commercial airline because some people who overstayed on their flew airplanes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. Of course you oppose any reform to tighten up entry into the country.

dude you would have to proove it even if people came here only legally.

its not realistic to expect all people with zero exception and 100% pure accuracy will all be law abiding people walking around in this country with zero reason to proove their claims.

are you completely mad?

Apparently you don't get it. The citizens of the US are the one being asked to change their way of living because of non Americans. We have given up privacy for security, we are forced to prove who we are, we have become suspicious of everything. We can't even secure our borders. We have given up a lot in the name of security and we still don't have security and our freedom is being sacrificed in the process.

sorry but nobody under any condition gets to walk around with the assumption that they do not have to prove a claim they make

that is absurd.

nobody can just say 'I have Indian blood (like E Warren said) and just have people take it on faith'. Anymore then you are allowed to just state income on a IRS form and just have people take it on faith that its accurate, no you have to proove this stuff

Unless you are an illegal alien.

yes I know you have some snowflake utopian view of the world in which this country is some massive safe space where nobody has to proove any claim they make at all because everyone is trustworthy.

time to grow up me thinks

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