Jeffrey Epstein dead of apparent suicide hours after released documents name several political figures

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Poll: Jeffrey Epstein dead of apparent suicide hours after released documents name several political figures (53 votes)

Nothing to see here, he killed himself. 28%
The Clintons had him killed. 23%
Trump had him killed. 9%
Some other powerful figure not named above had him killed. 32%
He’s not dead, he’s in witness protection. 8%
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#1  Edited By ad1x2
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Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced millionaire who was facing federal sex trafficking charges, died by suicide early Saturday in his Lower Manhattan prison cell, law enforcement sources and the Bureau of Prisons confirmed to ABC News.

Epstein hanged himself, the sources said.

He was found unresponsive in his cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center around 6:30 a.m., the Bureau of Prisons said. He transported in cardiac arrest to New York Downtown Hospital at 6:39 a.m., according to sources.

Epstein, 66, was set to stand trial next year for allegedly sexually abusing dozens of minor girls in New York and Florida.

His death came less than three weeks after he was found unresponsive in his cell at the federal prison in Lower Manhattan, with marks on his neck that appeared to be self-inflicted, sources told ABC News. He was placed on suicide watch following the July 23 incident, but was not on suicide watch at this time of his death.

Epstein was arrested in July of this year for alleged sex trafficking of minor girls at his Upper East Side mansion and his home in Palm Beach, Florida. Some of the charges date back to the early 2000s.

Right now, the Clintons are trending on Twitter again, with their #clintonbodycount hashtag being high on the list.

While not nearly as numerous, #trumpbodycount is going up as well. People are arguing that Trump had something to hide too and he could have ordered the DOJ to do it. Of course, those people could just want to keep the Clintons out of the spotlight while looking for another way to get Trump out of office.

Do you think Epstein was just some rich guy that decided he would rather die than spend the rest of his life in jail, or do you think he was murdered under the orders of some person that had a chance of being implicated and it was set up to look like a suicide?

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#2 Nuck81
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Honestly, it's probably a little of all of the above.

From the looks of it, there were people far more powerful than Trump or the Clinton's about to be exposed.

But you also have to understand that a man like epstien, who was used to a certain lifestyle. The idea of spending the rest of his life in prison was probably a lot to handle.

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#3 Horgen  Moderator
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I'm guessing suicide.

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#4 Horgen  Moderator
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Another news article about it

New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D) led public calls Saturday demanding answers after disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his Manhattan jail cell due to an apparent suicide.

“We need answers. Lots of them,” Ocasio-Cortez, a member of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, tweeted.

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#5 tocool340
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Didn't he attempt suicide not so long ago? I figured if he failed once, they would put him in a padded room so he won't get another chance to try it...

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#6  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Hmm... yeah. "SUICIDE" and wasn't watched enough after he had just attempted suicide.

Somebody aided in his suicide. That's just how big, rich criminals operate.

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#7 Xabiss
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Seriously you could of spent less then 500 bucks and had a camera on this man 24 hours a day. This was a super high profile case with a lot of higher up people being part of this. He should of been watched more then any normal person prisoner. No matter what political affiliation you are people need to go down for what went on.

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#8 JimB
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Commented on another thread he would not make it to trial.

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#9 foxhound_fox
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"Suicide"

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#10 vl4d_l3nin
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@Xabiss said:

Seriously you could of spent less then 500 bucks and had a camera on this man 24 hours a day. This was a super high profile case with a lot of higher up people being part of this. He should of been watched more then any normal person prisoner. No matter what political affiliation you are people need to go down for what went on.

24 hour surveillance is the norm for suicide watch.

There is definitely foul play here.

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#11 Nuck81
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Lol at the people that think the clintons still have the power or Influence to pull this off.

However Trump has been friends with epstien and the Clinton's for 20 years.

Until Epstein nailed Ivana when she was a teenager

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#12 MirkoS77
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He probably killed himself, but was deliberately not put on suicide watch so he was able to.

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@Nuck81 said:

Lol at the people that think the clintons still have the power or Influence to pull this off.

However Trump has been friends with epstien and the Clinton's for 20 years.

Until Epstein nailed Ivana when she was a teenager

https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-bill-clinton-flight-logs-1448367

Not saying the Clinton's did it but there was dirt on all kinds of people besides Trump.

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#14 Nuck81
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@Gaming-Planet: sure there was. People far more powerful than the Clinton's or Trump.

More then likely Epstein was just allowed to take care of himself godfather Ii style

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#15 warmblur
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Uncle Jesse did it.

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Mentioned among the people who were part of Epstein's pedophile ring? Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and Prince Andrew.

There are members of two governments who had reason to want Epstein dead because of this.

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#17 uninspiredcup
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This is going to make Alex Jones head explode.

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#18  Edited By Solaryellow
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@Nuck81 said:

Until Epstein nailed Ivana when she was a teenager

Do tell.

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#19 nintendoboy16
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And the conspiracy theories are swarming the Twitters.

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It were the Keebler Elves. I've been telling you people for decades, that whole cookie thing is just a front.

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#21 watercrack445
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He had a three way sex with a horse and chicken. I told you he was crazy person.

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@br0kenrabbit said:

It were the Keebler Elves. I've been telling you people for decades, that whole cookie thing is just a front.

Nah. The Keebler Elves just run an illegal marijuana operation. It's Santa's Elves that specialize in infiltration and dealing with those on the Naughty List.

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#23  Edited By KungfuKitten
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High security prisons have camera's and backup power. This particular one is called the 'Guantanamo of New York.' Just watch the camera footage to see how he died.

There's a lot to learn from that footage.

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#24 Serraph105
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I can't believe everyone is politicizing Epstein's death like this. I mean the body's not even cold.

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@Serraph105 said:

I can't believe everyone is politicizing Epstein's death like this. I mean the body's not even cold.

It's because his death involves politicians and high profile people like Prince Andrew.

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#26 uninspiredcup
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@Gaming-Planet said:
@Serraph105 said:

I can't believe everyone is politicizing Epstein's death like this. I mean the body's not even cold.

It's because his death involves politicians and high profile people like Prince Andrew.

Not sure i'd quality that as political as the monarchy doesn't really hold political power anymore. Prince Andrew. himself is one of the lesser "who cares" members of the royal house-hold. Still, bad image is bad image. Gotta get that tourist money.

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#27  Edited By ad1x2
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@Serraph105 said:

I can't believe everyone is politicizing Epstein's death like this. I mean the body's not even cold.

You should be able to believe it after looking at the potential results of making it political:

If it was proven that the Clintons had him killed, that would mean Republicans can brag the 2016 Democratic nominee was involved in one of the biggest political cover-ups in recent history and her actions can be used against the many Democrats that have endorsed or defended her. Certain media organizations could go down with them especially if it can be proven they helped cover up other crimes for political reasons.

If it was proven that Trump ordered his death, that would easily result in his impeachment, as well as the impeachment of any cabinet members that helped him carry out that order. It would all but guarantee that the White House would be back in Democratic control in the very near future, especially since Trump's impeachment/resignation would probably get Pence out of there too even if he had nothing to do with it, meaning Nancy Pelosi becomes president.

It's extremely easy to believe they could make the death of a rich pedophile that has connections to powerful people on both sides of the aisle political. Democrats use mass shootings to push gun control and Republicans use the deaths of U.S. citizens by illegal aliens (Mollie Tibbets, Kate Steinle) to push for stronger border security all of the time.

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#28 Zaryia
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Sigh, Trump goes full psycho before anyone even in this thread,

Trump retweets conspiracy theory implying Clintons linked to Epstein death

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-retweets-post-implying-clintons-epstein-death

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What an idiot Trump is.

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#30 Nuck81
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Serraph was being sarcastic.

No one ordered his death.

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#31 LJS9502_basic
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Suicide...………..

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#32 mattbbpl
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@Serraph105: "I can't believe everyone is politicizing Epstein's death like this. I mean the body's not even cold."

How can anyone not realize this is sarcasm. I'm drunk on day 2 of a 3 day bachelor party, and even I knew it was sarcasm.

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#34  Edited By R-Gamer
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@Nuck81: lol you actually think Trump had something to do with this? You are delusional.

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#35 comp_atkins
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my guess is he killed himself. my guess is also someone with influence took him off suicide watch or paid people to look the other way. i'll admit i have zero evidence of this however.

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#36 Zaryia
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@r-gamer said:

@Nuck81: lol you actually think Trump had something to do with this? You are delusional.

Trump is delusional to retweet the Clinton conspiracy.

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#37 Serraph105
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@mattbbpl: "I'm drunk on day 2 of a 3 day bachelor party"

That's some pretty hardcore shit.

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#38  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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Loading Video...

Okay, first thing we need to do is eliminate everyone who didn'twant him dead...

...

Anyone?

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#39 R-Gamer
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@zaryia: So is every leftist who thinks Trump did it.

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#40  Edited By Vaasman
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@r-gamer said:

@zaryia: So is every leftist who thinks Trump did it.

Donald Trump personally walked into the cell and beat Epstein to death and then flipped off the camera.

Quote me on it.

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#41 BaelNergal
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@sancho_panzer said:

Okay, first thing we need to do is eliminate everyone who didn'twant him dead...

...

Anyone?

The members of NAMBLA. They wouldn't want him dead.

@Vaasman said:

Donald Trump personally walked into the cell and beat Epstein to death and then flipped off the camera.

Quote me on it.

Nah. If it were Trump, he'd do it on national television and use the video clip to campaign that he's tough on crime.

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#42  Edited By Zaryia
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@r-gamer said:

@zaryia: So is every leftist who thinks Trump did it.

I mean.... they aren't president. Jesus.

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#43  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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@baelnergal said:
@sancho_panzer said:

Okay, first thing we need to do is eliminate everyone who didn'twant him dead...

...

Anyone?

The members of NAMBLA. They wouldn't want him dead.

I'd think he could possibly be a liability. Not crossing that one off.

@zaryia said:

Jesus.

Good suggestion! I'll add him to my list.

Ok, so far I've got:

People who didn't want Jeffrey Epstein dead: Gandhi, Mother Terersa and Jesus. Just checked and the first two are already dead. Third one's more complicated depending on where you look but I think we can safely exclude him anyway.

Nice work boys, I can feel we're getting close.

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#44  Edited By Master_Live
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Fincher needs to direct this. If not him then Bennett Miller.

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#45 rmpumper
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Did anyone see the body yet?

Most likely someone got bribed/threatened to take him off of suicide watch and he killed himself to protect his own family.

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#46 R-Gamer
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@zaryia: No but they will be voting for the next one. And you far left loons have no end to crazy.

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#47 npiet1
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Trump retweeted that it was a Clinton conspiracy. So hopefully he pushes for investigations because I don't think he killed himself. I think there's a lot more to it. Where's the footage?

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#48 BaelNergal
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@sancho_panzer said:

Good suggestion! I'll add him to my list.

Ok, so far I've got:

People who didn't want Jeffrey Epstein dead: Gandhi, Mother Terersa and Jesus. Just checked and the first two are already dead. Third one's more complicated depending on where you look but I think we can safely exclude him anyway.

Nice work boys, I can feel we're getting close.

I wouldn't include Gandhi or Mother Theresa on that list. Mother Theresa was rather notorious for her use of pain, and for some actions that would be considered torture by many, and Gandhi very much believed violence had power and even appropriate uses.

And Jesus resorted to violence in one memorable instance in the Bible, so he's not exactly adverse to its use when appropriate.

So it's quite possible not even they would have wanted Epstein to live.

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If only he knew, like no documents to back things up, what would be the point in killing him? It would be words against words with no evidence to back it up.

If evidence exist, unless it was locked so only he could access it, killing him won't make that go away. So what am I missing here?

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#50 Sancho_Panzer
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@baelnergal: Hm.. point taken. "Bit of a temper", I'll put down. Good detective work.

Still, being dead at the time is an extremely good alibi. It's among the best defences around tbh. I'll just pencil them into the unlikely column for now.