Inside Casa Padre, the converted Walmart where the U.S. is holding nearly 1,500 immigrant children

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Remember about a year ago when the member of a Trump campaign used Japanese internment camps as precedent for locking up muslims for being muslim and people said that would never happen? This is a fantastic example of what the beginning of a concentration camp looks like. Give it a few more months of increasing this place's population and the horror stories will come rolling in, but just like the frog in boiling water you will be fine with it and it will be too late for these kids.

These kids have been separated from their families because of the Trump administration, and are now incarcerated for no legitamite reason whatsoever. I'm calling my represenatives later today over this and telling them this is beyond the pale, and they need to make it stop immediately.

Please elaborate on the "and are now incarcerated for no legitamite reason whatsoever" opinion you hold.

@Solaryellow: Sort of like a prison sentence without a trial...?

I wouldn't compare it directly with prison. They get (some) educattopm while being there, also have some chances to play different games. It's a messed up situation from my understanding. Hopefully the government is willing to spend enough money for it to work smoothly. As in getting the kids reunited with their parents (if forced separation from them) and making their life decent while being there.

@Solaryellow: They're currently being held there for being taken here by their parents as kids? They didn't choose to come to the US regardless of the laws because choice wasn't involved.

@horgen: prisoners also get the opportunity for education while in jail.

If the topic is "children are being held indefinitely in a shantytown after being forcibly separated from their parents," and your response is to pick apart someone's logic then there's really no point in arguing with you. Everyone should just dismiss your deplorable opinion and continue on actually having compassion for other human beings.

I think its because the kids didnt commit the crimes in question, the parents did.

but its a fair question you are asking

what he should be asking is this:

'if someone needs to be detained for breaking the law (such as the parents) what should one do with the children?'

but people on the right are not very good at making arguement points

Mr. Millennial, what's your suggestion to the "indefinite" detention?

Understandably you can not defend the belief these kids are held w/o a legit reason.

you know I could seriously debate your position for you about 1000% times better.

If a person is being arrested for commiting a crime (like coming over the border) one has to do SOMETHING with the kids, so ask the liberals what they suggest.

Oh, and an ad hominem attack, how quaint. Funny, coming from someone claiming to have a sound argument. Scurry off, Mr. Deplorable.

Asking the question is ceding the argument by granting a deplorable opinion legitimacy. It has no legitimacy. President Obama instructed his administration to handle enforcement of the law in a compassionate way to specifically address situations like these. This isn't to even mention the intransigent Republicans in Congress who won't do anything to address situations like these legislatively. There are ways to handle these situations humanely and with dignity, but deplorables like Jeff Sessions and his supporters don't want that. They want to punish brown people in any way possible even if it means breaking up families. Full stop.

well that is true, but there is a good question they could be asking but they do not have the tactical smarts to see it.

If you are so outraged at how we deal with illegals, what is your solution? Do we ignore our laws and sovereignty? In our reality, actions have consequences. I understand you don't understand such a concept but I assure you it exists and is practiced.

No human compassion to see here folks.....the way of the right.

@Solaryellow:

I love republican forced dichotomies. There’s literally no middle ground between having literally no border and shoving kids in a concentration camp.

There are three solutions to this problem. Where do you stand?

Children are innocent and should not be punished for the crimes of their parents. If you don't understand that, you are a sociopath.

@bigfootpart2: and he asked a simple question,what is your solution, and it’s always amusing seeing the left play the race card when it comes to non-whites being held accountable for breaking laws, liberals are usually real quick to throw white people under the bus for anything though

@Serraph105:

Republicans are so far up their own asses about immigration that they could care less if it makes them immoral and inhumane. Welcome to Trump's America. smh

It doesn't surprise me one bit though.

Seeing Sessions and Huckabee-Sanders quote the bible about these things was a pretty big low point. It's 'biblical to follow the law'....really?!?!?! That's their angle? Follow the law, no matter how cruel or unjust, because it's biblical.

@HoolaHoopMan: It's disgusting. The Christian Right should be ashamed of how they've perverted their faith.

The Christian Right doesn't follow Christ at all.

I loved the part in the Bible where Jesus threw the immigrant children into cages in a concentration camp

You mean like in this photo

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2018/05/kidsprison.jpg?w=900

@Jacanuk: haha

@Serraph105: bs. Take them in or send them back. Don't hold them in a prison.

Let's do a little thought experiment. If these were white kids with blonde hair and blue eyes, would Republicans feel the same way?

Of course not. They would be outraged. But they don't really see brown people as people.

@theone86: How was it handled during Obama?

In US as well? I didn't think they did.

That ship sailed decades ago. Trump is their guy now, and by accepting him through the nomination process there's no going back.

It's ok, guys. It's Nothing but a negotiating chip.

https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/16/politics/trump-separation-families-negotiating-tool/index.html?amp_js_v=a1&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2018%2F06%2F16%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-separation-families-negotiating-tool%2Findex.html

@mattbbpl: Your link doesn't work.......is this it?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/16/politics/trump-separation-families-negotiating-tool/index.html

@LJS9502_basic: it is, thanks.

Darn these mobile browser urls.

LOL

Doesn't surprise me anymore what he does. He has zero morals/ethics. He's only interested in himself and has been blaming the Democrats for his immigration policy for some time now.

I despair that America will wake up to the real danger he represents to the republic.

Highlighted and bolded you contracting yourself within the same paragraph.

1,500 children, damn that’s a good indicator of how many people are sneaking into the country illegally, maybe the children’s parents shouldn’t be putting their kids in that kind of situation, if only there was some way of trying to deter this from happening so much...

Maybe once China is a bigger economy?

@iwilson1296: how about a better work visa program so they don't have to sneak in? That would work. If only an elephant party would not try to stop it.

@dreman999: maybe there’s enough here already that are undocumented and/or overstayed their visas.

Obama created legal structures that yielded the current situation.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-immigration-children-cages-photos-obama-administration-us-president-twitter-a8373926.html

You argue for high "morals/ethics" when Obama/Clinton has Libya mess.

You actually expect some of the people in this discussion to hold the parents accountable for placing their children in such a position? You must be jesting!

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jun/06spec.htm

Immigrants from India and China are quick to assimilate into the economic fabric of the United States, but are not as quick when it comes to assimilating culturally and in civic matters, a study by Jacob Vigdor, associate professor of public policy studies and economics at Duke University, has found.

Billed as the first annual Index of Immigrant Assimilation, the study measured three types of assimilation: economic (employment, education, homeownership); cultural (intermarriage, English proficiency, family size); and civic (citizenship rates, military service, voting). It then compared the assimilation rates of recent immigrants by country of origin, and found that immigrants from Vietnam, Cuba and the Philippines have the high ratings across the board.

The overall assimilation index for all countries averages out to 28 on a scale of 100, but the index for India is under 20, and China only barely tops the 20 mark. Mexico rates 13 points, while Canada [Images] scores a high 53. "In terms of overall assimilation, immigrants from Mexico and Central America have index values below those of Indians; the index value for India is below that of China," Bridget Sweeny of the Manhattan Institute, a liberal think tank, said.

Immigrants born in Canada, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Korea, the Philippines, and Vietnam have assimilation-index values higher than the national average of 28. 'This report introduces a quantitative index that measures the degree of similarity between native and foreign-born adults. It is the ability to distinguish the latter group from the former that we mean when we use the term assimilation,' the report said.

Mexico has poor assimilation rates while Philippines migrants has high assimilation rates which is on par with Canadians.

South Korea, Canada and Philippines are US military allies.

If Mexico has high assimilation rates like the Philippines migrants, then the Mexicans would be welcomed.

There's a reason for Philippines and US enduring friendship which is different with Mexico.

No, the Philippines and the US are "enduring" friendships is because Dutuerte and Trump are one in the same.

Deport people like you, that's my solution. If you can't understand that laws need to be executed humanely and with compassion and only focus on the exact letter of the law needing to be executed by any means necessary then you are a sociopath. And like I said before, that's no excuse for legislators in Congress not doing anything to change the laws.

He specifically instructed law enforcement not to target families and instead to prioritize people who had committed violent crimes. And I don't think it was handled perfectly, but he put the right principles in place to begin reforming the institutions that deal with immigration.

King deplorable saying deplorable things.

Classic trump fan boy response.......whataboutism.

In other words, you support ignoring our immigration laws. Sorry son, that's not how it works. Our sovereignty is muy importante. At least the old Walmart is being re-purposed.

One of three solutions are possible: Deport the entire family, allow them free reign to enter a sovereign nation or detain the family together. Your choice?

It's so important that we need to throw children in dirty cages in a concentration camp?

We can keep the families together and either deport or admit them together. No need to resort to Nazi concentration camp tactics where we rip screaming children from their crying parents arms and throw them into cages.

What the hell is wrong with people like you that you think this is ok?

@bigfootpart2: oh Jesus Christ the drama here. Do the academy awards give oscars for forum posts?, cuz they should