GOP lawmaker sues Pence in bid to overturn Biden win

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GOP lawmaker sues Pence in bid to overturn Biden win

GOP lawmaker sues Pence in bid to overturn Biden win | TheHill

Vice President Pence was sued Sunday by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) and several other Republicans in a far-fetched bid that appeared aimed at overturning President-elect Joe Biden's election win.

The lawsuit focuses on Pence’s role in an upcoming Jan. 6 meeting of Congress to count states’ electoral votes and finalize Biden’s victory over President Trump. Typically, the vice president’s role in presiding over the meeting is a largely ceremonial one governed by an 1887 federal law known as the Electoral Count Act.

But the Republican lawsuit, which was filed against Pence in his official capacity as vice president, asks a federal judge in Texas to strike down the law as unconstitutional. The GOP plaintiffs go further: They ask the court to grant Pence the authority on Jan. 6 to effectively overturn Trump’s defeat in key battleground states.

Election law experts were dismissive of the lawsuit’s prospects for success.

“The idea that the Vice President has sole authority to determine whether or not to count electoral votes submitted by a state, or which of competing submissions to count, is inconsistent with a proper understanding of the Constitution,” said Edward Foley, a law professor at the Ohio State University.

What a clown show. It's over, stop being the global laughing stock party. You guys look bad enough due to your joke of policies in general, but this whole election thing has turned the GOP into absolute clowns.

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#2 horgen  Moderator
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@zaryia: US is basically a dictatorship if this somehow goes through, right?

It is strange how Republicans so desperately wants a king...

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#3 LJS9502_basic
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Pence's job is just to announce the count. He is not allowed to change it.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

Pence's job is just to announce the count. He is not allowed to change it.

Is it actually an official legal thing that solidifies the president-elect's win, or more of a formality?

@horgen said:

@zaryia: US is basically a dictatorship if this somehow goes through, right?

It is strange how Republicans so desperately wants a king...

Been feeling like we are heading that way for a while. Dictatorships, corporate oligarchies, and despotic regimes don't happen overnight, either; they take a while to create and require a lot of people's help.

The right is fond of saying that when people sound the alarm they're exaggerating, but the fact is people will snatch this country away from us if we let them.

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Pence's job is just to announce the count. He is not allowed to change it.

Is it actually an official legal thing that solidifies the president-elect's win, or more of a formality?

Formality really. The EC picks the winner.

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The never ending shit show keeps on rolling.

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Owning the libs by [checks notes] overthrowing the elected government.

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It's ok. Luckily Republicans are the party of law and order and the 2nd amendment.

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Lol This is embarrassing.

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These people are idiots. Truly stupid people. For ten seconds of limelight today, they will forever be mocked in history as the answer to obscure trivia questions in the future. Which idiot sued the VP in a lame attempt to overthrow a Presidential election? I am sure his great grand kids will be proud.

On a related note, this is what I mean by the Republican party having the opportunity to clean house. Every one of these mofos that has self identified as an idiot needs to be targeted and purged from the party. Every fucking one of them.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Been feeling like we are heading that way for a while. Dictatorships, corporate oligarchies, and despotic regimes don't happen overnight, either; they take a while to create and require a lot of people's help.

The right is fond of saying that when people sound the alarm they're exaggerating, but the fact is people will snatch this country away from us if we let them.

Yeah, it isn't something that started lately. I've heard some said the path towards it got solidified once money equalled free speech.

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Good ole Lou, tooth swallowing, Gohmert. One more rancid GOP coup operative.

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@SUD123456: This is what a fractured party looks like. The uneducated horde of conspiracy theorist low-IQ white trash has taken over the GOP.

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Show the proof GOP/Trump or STFU already. So tired of this stupid shit!

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#16  Edited By MirkoS77
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@Xabiss said:

Show the proof GOP/Trump or STFU already. So tired of this stupid shit!

Proof?

They're not even attempting to hold up the pretense they actually have it or are operating by that metric anymore, there's no respect for the democratic process here, this is simply an attempt at a naked power grab in subversion of the will of the electorate by getting a judge, any judge, to grant this ridiculous request.

Every single one of these people are traitors to the Constitution, and IMO, should be tried as traitors. That's literally what they are. Every. Single. One., and I hope it will not be forgotten.

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I guess the people who've been saying that Trump was a fascist were on to something. But of course this is just more "pwning teh libz" and him being funny.

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I wish Republicans would just admit they're nothing more than a crypto-Nazi party at this point, it would make things a whole lot easier.

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@Xabiss said:

Show the proof GOP/Trump or STFU already. So tired of this stupid shit!

Ah yes from the guy saying he doesn't support trump rushing to the rescue. You can't make this stuff up.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Xabiss said:

Show the proof GOP/Trump or STFU already. So tired of this stupid shit!

Ah yes from the guy saying he doesn't support trump rushing to the rescue. You can't make this stuff up.

WTF are you talking about. I am saying for the GOP/Trump to show proof or STFU about this election fraud crap. I am tired of hearing about it, but that makes me a Trump supporter right. Seriously something is wrong with you. Also all of this crap is just going to hurt the GOP in the midterms. They are really screwing up.

Also now Trump is pulling this crap:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-asks-supreme-court-set-020504507.html

Seriously man if he has proof then show it. Hell even Barr will not investigate this so called election fraud because there was no fraud. I hate to break it to Trump that even though he got to pick a lot of the supreme court they will do what is right for the country. He thought he was stacking the court so he could use them for what is happening now and the SC will tell him to piss off.

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@Xabiss said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Xabiss said:

Show the proof GOP/Trump or STFU already. So tired of this stupid shit!

Ah yes from the guy saying he doesn't support trump rushing to the rescue. You can't make this stuff up.

WTF are you talking about. I am saying for the GOP/Trump to show proof or STFU about this election fraud crap. I am tired of hearing about it, but that makes me a Trump supporter right. Seriously something is wrong with you. Also all of this crap is just going to hurt the GOP in the midterms. They are really screwing up.

Also now Trump is pulling this crap:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-asks-supreme-court-set-020504507.html

Seriously man if he has proof then show it. Hell even Barr will not investigate this so called election fraud because there was no fraud. I hate to break it to Trump that even though he got to pick a lot of the supreme court they will do what is right for the country. He thought he was stacking the court so he could use them for what is happening now and the SC will tell him to piss off.

While I can't speak for LJS I think he misunderstood your post. First time reading it I took it as demanding proof of what this thread is about, not as an attack on Trump.

Anyone who read or saw what was said under oath regarding all these cases knew it was bust more or less right away. They don't dare call it fraud under oath.

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#23  Edited By Xabiss
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@horgen said:
@Xabiss said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Xabiss said:

Show the proof GOP/Trump or STFU already. So tired of this stupid shit!

Ah yes from the guy saying he doesn't support trump rushing to the rescue. You can't make this stuff up.

WTF are you talking about. I am saying for the GOP/Trump to show proof or STFU about this election fraud crap. I am tired of hearing about it, but that makes me a Trump supporter right. Seriously something is wrong with you. Also all of this crap is just going to hurt the GOP in the midterms. They are really screwing up.

Also now Trump is pulling this crap:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-asks-supreme-court-set-020504507.html

Seriously man if he has proof then show it. Hell even Barr will not investigate this so called election fraud because there was no fraud. I hate to break it to Trump that even though he got to pick a lot of the supreme court they will do what is right for the country. He thought he was stacking the court so he could use them for what is happening now and the SC will tell him to piss off.

While I can't speak for LJS I think he misunderstood your post. First time reading it I took it as demanding proof of what this thread is about, not as an attack on Trump.

Anyone who read or saw what was said under oath regarding all these cases knew it was bust more or less right away. They don't dare call it fraud under oath.

GOP is really pissing me off right now. So they are trying to steal an election that they are complaining that was stolen without any physical proof. They are just making an ass out of themselves. Why the GOP even wants to feed into Trumps ego is beyond me right now.

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#24 LJS9502_basic
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@Xabiss: Ah I read that you wanting proof trump was wrong. My bad.

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#25 comp_atkins
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it never ends.

between this, the second supreme court request, and hawley's antics the right has vaporized any sense of respecting the people's will here...

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They are gonna need more people onboard for thier coup. Maybe if they had better evidence for election fraud they claim.

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#27 Willy105
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I wonder if any Democrats are upset that they didn't think of doing this in 2016. If it worked, maybe a quarter million lives could have been saved.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Pence's job is just to announce the count. He is not allowed to change it.

Is it actually an official legal thing that solidifies the president-elect's win, or more of a formality?

Formality really. The EC picks the winner.

I believe the judge for the case said it won't move forward until the plaintiffs' show proof of service to all defendants. Which is tricky to do when one defendant isn't actually a real thing...right?

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#29 LJS9502_basic
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@davillain-: Not sure what you are talking about TBH....

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#30 DaVillain  Moderator
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@LJS9502_basic: Lawsuit won't go further cause there's nothing to support this.

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#31 LJS9502_basic
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@davillain- said:

@LJS9502_basic: Lawsuit won't go further cause there's nothing to support this.

Oh yeah I know. But I think these Representatives and Senators should be removed due to treason/sedition.

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I'm glad Pence has actively opposed this lawsuit.

Pence has played it safe and refused to engage with Trump's lunacy over the past two months. It gives me some hope that the Republican party isn't totally corrupt.

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Pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood insists he is not insane after tweeting that Mike Pence should face execution by firing squad

Pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood denies insanity after execute Pence tweet - Business Insider

wtf.

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Gohmert suggests ‘violence in the streets’ after judge rejects bid to force VP Pence to overturn Biden’s win (dallasnews.com)

Republicans and Conservatives must be so embarrassed right now.

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@zaryia: They've already called for martial law. Now they're calling for direct violence. These 'blue line' folks sure love their law and order.

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#36  Edited By MirkoS77
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Lin's tweets:

1) "For two months we have focused on accusing the Democrats of attempting to steal the 20/20 election for Biden. We focused on the Presidential election. We focused on the obvious. Over time, we have learned that the Democrats were joined by CCP & other foreign countries.

Lin Wood@LLinWood(2) We have also learned that the Globalists like George Soros & the Elitists like Bill Gates were involved. CIA too (no surprise - military industrial complex). It all seemed so clear we overlooked one of the main participants in the theft of the election:

THE REPUBLICANS."

2) "These groups aspire to the goals of Communism. A ruling elite & an oppressed class of people who exist to serve those in power. When arrests for treason begin, put Chief Justice John Roberts, VP Mike Pence @VP@Mike_Pence, & Mitch McConnell @senatemajldr at top of list."

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Great, now even the Republicans have joined the communists and tried to steal the election......(from themselves?) and Chief Justice Roberts is among enemy number one.

These people are just loons, they're so far down the rabbit hole of conspiracy that they've lost all grip on reality. How can you reason with people like this? It's amazing to watch how a conspiracy descends and consumes itself in paranoia, infighting, and the increasing levels of delusion. It would be funny if it weren't consuming the highest levels of our government and taken hold of tens of millions.

This is exactly why we should have never humored the entire fraud lie in the first place. It's dangerous to give people like this venue and legitimize their nonsense.