GOP Congressman goes full moron on Climate Change,

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#1 Edited by Zaryia (8208 posts) -

Hearing on climate change and national security becomes an angry partisan clash

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/house-climate-natsec-hearing/index.html

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

Cringe worthy video. Keep telling me the GOP agrees on the science and are just debating on what to do, because that is just a lie. Polling also shows a large number of Republicans don't think it's real either.

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#2 Edited by HoolaHoopMan (10603 posts) -

The GOP are conspiracy theorists when it comes to climate change. History will not be kind to them down the line. A bunch of selfish pricks.

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#3 Edited by texasgoldrush (12801 posts) -

Then this

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Another embarrassing performance by the GOP side of Oversight.

AOC along with Kerry and Hagel finished off these babbling idiots.

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#4 Edited by hrt_rulz01 (18698 posts) -

I'd laugh at this Massie idiot if it wasn't such a dire situation... and this isn't just an American Republican problem. There are governments/politicians all over the world who are equally as bad (including here in Australia).

So much ignorance - mostly pushed by self-interest. I seriously feel for future generations who have to deal with it.

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#5 Posted by Serraph105 (33668 posts) -

The sad thing is republicans use to agree with scientists. That was back in the 90s and early 2000s. Nowadays they choose politics over scientific evidence. Republicans really don't give as much of a shit that the world is set to endure massive damage to it's peoples and it's infrastructure as much as they give a shit about holding on to power in the united states congress.

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#6 Edited by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@zaryia said:

Hearing on climate change and national security becomes an angry partisan clash

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/house-climate-natsec-hearing/index.html

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

Cringe worthy video. Keep telling me the GOP agrees on the science and are just debating on what to do, because that is just a lie. Polling also shows a large number of Republicans don't think it's real either.

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Math is a problem for eco-fascist.

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#7 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166353 posts) -

@ronvalencia: Who died and made Gates an expert?

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#8 Posted by rmpumper (558 posts) -

@ronvalencia: The guy is investing billions into fusion reactor research, so of course he tries to downplay competition (not that I disagree, as fusion is the best solution out there, it just might not be viable for decades to come and we need to get rid of fossil fuel today).

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#9 Posted by whiskeystrike (12182 posts) -

Unfortunately, people use the voices of pundits, politicians, lobbyists and grifters as substitutes for peer-reviewed scientific research. Everyone remembers how embarrassing it was to hear from these incompetent fools on the subject of net neutrality but go right back to taking their word on other issues (like the GOP and climate change) provided they're given a scrap of comfort rather than occasionally deal with an uncomfortable truth.

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#10 Edited by Zaryia (8208 posts) -
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

Hearing on climate change and national security becomes an angry partisan clash

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/house-climate-natsec-hearing/index.html

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

Cringe worthy video. Keep telling me the GOP agrees on the science and are just debating on what to do, because that is just a lie. Polling also shows a large number of Republicans don't think it's real either.

Math is a problem for eco-fascist.

As usual a complete and utter off-topic red-herring.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my thread or the exchange I posted. Math is an even bigger problem for the GOP, they don't even think AGW or CC is real. Gates accepts these facts, why can't the GOP?

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

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#11 Posted by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:

@ronvalencia: Who died and made Gates an expert?

Basic math between supply and demand.

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#12 Edited by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

Hearing on climate change and national security becomes an angry partisan clash

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/house-climate-natsec-hearing/index.html

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

Cringe worthy video. Keep telling me the GOP agrees on the science and are just debating on what to do, because that is just a lie. Polling also shows a large number of Republicans don't think it's real either.

Math is a problem for eco-fascist.

As usual a complete and utter off-topic red-herring.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my thread or the exchange I posted. Math is an even bigger problem for the GOP, they don't even think AGW or CC is real. Gates accepts these facts, why can't the GOP?

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

1. Cite GOP's math problem.

2. GOP doesn't control the supply and funding bills. Ask most Democrats which voted "present" for AOC's GND.

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#13 Edited by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@rmpumper said:

@ronvalencia: The guy is investing billions into fusion reactor research, so of course he tries to downplay competition (not that I disagree, as fusion is the best solution out there, it just might not be viable for decades to come and we need to get rid of fossil fuel today).

Not correct. Bill Gates supports Travelling Wave Fission Reactor and funded working computer simulated models with super computers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_reactor

TWFR will use 99 percent of depleted Uranium.

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Math works with Bill Gates. Implementation has a different mindset when compared to dreamland mindset.

Fusion Reactors are not working.

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#14 Posted by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

Hearing on climate change and national security becomes an angry partisan clash

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/house-climate-natsec-hearing/index.html

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

Cringe worthy video. Keep telling me the GOP agrees on the science and are just debating on what to do, because that is just a lie. Polling also shows a large number of Republicans don't think it's real either.

Math is a problem for eco-fascist.

As usual a complete and utter off-topic red-herring.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my thread or the exchange I posted. Math is an even bigger problem for the GOP, they don't even think AGW or CC is real. Gates accepts these facts, why can't the GOP?

Instead, the hearing became a surreal spectacle in which one side tried to address an issue that the other side largely refused to accept is valid.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-wrong-the-world-wont-end-in-2030/

Other eco-fascist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodIkHXzOkE 'We Have 12 Years to Act'; Beto Mimics AOC on Climate Change

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#15 Posted by joebones5000 (2114 posts) -

The wilful ignorance from the right is disgusting. What a bunch of useless people.

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#16 Edited by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@texasgoldrush said:

Then this

Another embarrassing performance by the GOP side of Oversight.

AOC along with Kerry and Hagel finished off these babbling idiots.

AOC's GND has zero votes.

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#17 Edited by Zaryia (8208 posts) -
@ronvalencia said:
@texasgoldrush said:

Then this

Another embarrassing performance by the GOP side of Oversight.

AOC along with Kerry and Hagel finished off these babbling idiots.

AOC's GND has zero votes.

They disagree on what to do about the issue.

The GOP won't even admit there is an issue or give ANY plans!

@ronvalencia said:

1. Cite GOP's math problem.

2. GOP doesn't control the supply and funding bills. Ask most Democrats which voted "present" for AOC's GND.

1. Sure. That's easy. If you're a denier you literally have a math problem, because the math shows it is real.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/231530/global-warming-concern-steady-despite-partisan-shifts.aspx

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/11/john_kerry_to_gop_congressman_questioning_his_pseudoscience_degree_is_this_really_seriously_happening.html

https://grist.org/article/republican-representative-paul-gosar-suggests-that-photosynthesis-discredits-climate-change/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-on-climate-change-people-like-myself-we-have-very-high-levels-of-intelligence-but-were-not-necessarily-such-believers/2018/11/27/722f0184-f27e-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html

The President and most Republicans have a math problem.

2. Where is the GOP ideas to combat climate control?

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#18 Posted by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@texasgoldrush said:

Then this

Another embarrassing performance by the GOP side of Oversight.

AOC along with Kerry and Hagel finished off these babbling idiots.

AOC's GND has zero votes.

They disagree on what to do about the issue.

The GOP won't even admit there is an issue or give ANY plans!

@ronvalencia said:

1. Cite GOP's math problem.

2. GOP doesn't control the supply and funding bills. Ask most Democrats which voted "present" for AOC's GND.

1. Sure. That's easy. If you're a denier you literally have a math problem, because the math shows it is real.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/231530/global-warming-concern-steady-despite-partisan-shifts.aspx

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/11/john_kerry_to_gop_congressman_questioning_his_pseudoscience_degree_is_this_really_seriously_happening.html

https://grist.org/article/republican-representative-paul-gosar-suggests-that-photosynthesis-discredits-climate-change/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-on-climate-change-people-like-myself-we-have-very-high-levels-of-intelligence-but-were-not-necessarily-such-believers/2018/11/27/722f0184-f27e-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html

The President and most Republicans have a math problem.

2. Where is the GOP ideas to combat climate control?

Facts: Obama admin has Fed Reserve Bank's injecting cash into the system

Try again.

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#19 Edited by Zaryia (8208 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

Facts: Obama admin has Fed Reserve Bank's injecting cash into the system

Try again.

1. This post has nothing to do with climate change and this thread.

2. This post doesn't even have anything to do with Obama's job numbers vs Trumps - even if it was that thread.

You are so bad at this.

I see why SW calls you Ronbot.

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#20 Posted by Nuck81 (7435 posts) -

@zaryia: he literally replies to every thing with the intellectual equivalent of a buttermilk biscuit recipe

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#21 Posted by texasgoldrush (12801 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@texasgoldrush said:

Then this

Another embarrassing performance by the GOP side of Oversight.

AOC along with Kerry and Hagel finished off these babbling idiots.

AOC's GND has zero votes.

Once again due to AOC's strategy of not dividing Dems.

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#22 Posted by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@texasgoldrush said:
@ronvalencia said:
@texasgoldrush said:

Then this

Another embarrassing performance by the GOP side of Oversight.

AOC along with Kerry and Hagel finished off these babbling idiots.

AOC's GND has zero votes.

Once again due to AOC's strategy of not dividing Dems.

It's a cowardly response from Dems' own agenda.

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#23 Edited by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@zaryia:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18949-the-history-of-ice-on-earth/

Antarctica wasn’t always a frozen wasteland. It wasn’t until around 34 million years ago that the first small glaciers formed on the tops of Antarctica’s mountains. And it was 20 million years later, when world-wide temperatures dropped by 8 °C, that the glaciers’ ice froze onto the rock, and the southern ice sheet was born.

This temperature drop was triggered by the rise of the Himalayas. As they grew higher they were exposed to increased weathering, which sucked CO2 out of the atmosphere and reduced the greenhouse effect.

Eocene Epoch, lasting from 56 to 33.9 million years ago

https://www.britannica.com/science/Eocene-Epoch

Later Eocene vertebrate faunas are somewhat better developed in areas outside of North America; however, it is in North America, especially the western United States, that the most abundant and extensive Eocene terrestrial vertebrate record exists. Eocene rocks were deposited in much the same regions as those of the preceding Paleocene Epoch. During the Eocene, climates were warm and humid—temperate and subtropical forests were widespread, whereas grasslands were of limited extent. For example, the Eocene forests of Oregon were made up of trees and plants similar or identical to those now found in Central and South America.

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#24 Posted by rmpumper (558 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

Fusion Reactors are not working.

You are confusing "not working" with "working inefficiently".

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#25 Edited by Zaryia (8208 posts) -
@ronvalencia said:

@zaryia:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18949-the-history-of-ice-on-earth/

Antarctica wasn’t always a frozen wasteland. It wasn’t until around 34 million years ago that the first small glaciers formed on the tops of Antarctica’s mountains. And it was 20 million years later, when world-wide temperatures dropped by 8 °C, that the glaciers’ ice froze onto the rock, and the southern ice sheet was born.

This temperature drop was triggered by the rise of the Himalayas. As they grew higher they were exposed to increased weathering, which sucked CO2 out of the atmosphere and reduced the greenhouse effect.

Eocene Epoch, lasting from 56 to 33.9 million years ago

https://www.britannica.com/science/Eocene-Epoch

Later Eocene vertebrate faunas are somewhat better developed in areas outside of North America; however, it is in North America, especially the western United States, that the most abundant and extensive Eocene terrestrial vertebrate record exists. Eocene rocks were deposited in much the same regions as those of the preceding Paleocene Epoch. During the Eocene, climates were warm and humid—temperate and subtropical forests were widespread, whereas grasslands were of limited extent. For example, the Eocene forests of Oregon were made up of trees and plants similar or identical to those now found in Central and South America.

Are you trying (and failing) to use this data to suggest human linked Climate Change, or the harmful threat of Climate change is false? Even though the source itself is not making such a claim?

Because both of those sources you linked (Newscientist and Britannica) vehemently accept both as fact.

https://www.newscientist.com/article-topic/climate-change/

https://www.britannica.com/science/climate-change

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#26 Edited by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@rmpumper said:
@ronvalencia said:

Fusion Reactors are not working.

You are confusing "not working" with "working inefficiently".

If power generation solution is NOT generating net energy gain, then this power generator is not working for the intended purpose.

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#27 Edited by ronvalencia (27450 posts) -

@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

@zaryia:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18949-the-history-of-ice-on-earth/

Antarctica wasn’t always a frozen wasteland. It wasn’t until around 34 million years ago that the first small glaciers formed on the tops of Antarctica’s mountains. And it was 20 million years later, when world-wide temperatures dropped by 8 °C, that the glaciers’ ice froze onto the rock, and the southern ice sheet was born.

This temperature drop was triggered by the rise of the Himalayas. As they grew higher they were exposed to increased weathering, which sucked CO2 out of the atmosphere and reduced the greenhouse effect.

Eocene Epoch, lasting from 56 to 33.9 million years ago

https://www.britannica.com/science/Eocene-Epoch

Later Eocene vertebrate faunas are somewhat better developed in areas outside of North America; however, it is in North America, especially the western United States, that the most abundant and extensive Eocene terrestrial vertebrate record exists. Eocene rocks were deposited in much the same regions as those of the preceding Paleocene Epoch. During the Eocene, climates were warm and humid—temperate and subtropical forests were widespread, whereas grasslands were of limited extent. For example, the Eocene forests of Oregon were made up of trees and plants similar or identical to those now found in Central and South America.

Are you trying (and failing) to use this data to suggest human linked Climate Change, or the harmful threat of Climate change is false? Even though the source itself is not making such a claim?

Because both of those sources you linked (Newscientist and Britannica) vehemently accept both as fact.

https://www.newscientist.com/article-topic/climate-change/

https://www.britannica.com/science/climate-change

Useless links without specifically addressing issues involved.

PS; I already matched Al Gore's vehicle drive type e.g. hybrid Toyota and Lexus. I'm working towards Tesla PowerWall 2 specs with solar panels (7.5 to ~8 kWatts target, currently 3.3 kWatts panels) . I will need more solar panels with Tesla Model 3 charging. The Green cost is getting ridiculous.

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#28 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166353 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@ronvalencia: Who died and made Gates an expert?

Basic math between supply and demand.

Missed the entire point you did............

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#30 Edited by Zaryia (8208 posts) -
@ronvalencia said:

Useless links without specifically addressing issues involved.

Lmao climate denial in 2019.

Your 2 links do not refutes AGW and CC, nothing of such is stated in the articles. I read them 3 times over. They make zero mention of it. YOU are using arm-chair theory to suggest they are saying those are fake. You are wrong.

Your 2 sources specifically say AGW and CC are real.

Lmao Ronvelencia, I didn't know you were an insane conspiracy theories.

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#31 Posted by SaltSlasher (1006 posts) -

Not to sound like a bigot, but I don't want any Southern State giving anyone advice that pertains to science.

I personally believe our climate could die and end up like Venus, just like I believe seasons will shift and have chaotic weather.

The moral obligation is in everyone to do their own part, not rely on these jackass' to solve the problem for us.

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#32 Posted by theone86 (22417 posts) -
@saltslasher said:

Not to sound like a bigot, but I don't want any Southern State giving anyone advice that pertains to science.

I personally believe our climate could die and end up like Venus, just like I believe seasons will shift and have chaotic weather.

The moral obligation is in everyone to do their own part, not rely on these jackass' to solve the problem for us.

At least then we wouldn't have to listen to Republican bullshit anymore.