GOP Concerned About Losing TX in 2020

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#1  Edited By mattbbpl
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GOP officials are sounding the alarm that TX may no longer be reliably red. There are signs that it is transitioning to a swing state as early as 2020.

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I don't know if TX will actually swing that early, but the fact that the party thinks it might is critical as well - it forces them to spend resources in the state that they could have previously deployed elsewhere.

TX is huge, and the resources it would command as a swing state are sizable. This represents a monumental shift in national strategies.

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#3 LJS9502_basic
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Good. Texas has been importing more blue voters........of the legal variety.

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#4 Serraph105
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They absolutely should be worried about losing Texas. Democrats have California on lock and if they got Texas they would have the two states with the largest amount of electoral college votes in their pocket. It would be incredibly hard get the white house without either state.

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"The Wall" is actually quite unpopular in Texas. Particularly in near the border.

Quite ironic

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#7 resevl4rlz
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Now if Kentucky would get on the board being a swing state. Now if they only get rid of turtle man

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#8 Serraph105
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@resevl4rlz said:

Now if Kentucky would get on the board being a swing state. Now if they only get rid of turtle man

Good luck with that. As a person who goes there regularly I don't believe that Kentucky will ever change.

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#9  Edited By plageus900
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But...but...i thought god blessed texas!

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#10 HoolaHoopMan
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Good. And I'd wager it just isn't Texas. Plenty more states (and districts within those states) are slowly turning blue or purple, like Georgia and Arizona. The GOP has made it their mission to retain power by eliminating the ability for those people to vote due to suppression or gerrymandering, instead of actually shifting their platform to be more inclusive.

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#11  Edited By mrbojangles25
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not surprising tbh, Texas is creating a lot of tech and white collar jobs which result in a more intelligent (aka blue voter) population.

2020 might still be early, though.

I fully expect Texas to be the next victim of mass voter suppression given it's large Hispanic population and border-state status.

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#12  Edited By horgen
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@Serraph105 said:
@resevl4rlz said:

Now if Kentucky would get on the board being a swing state. Now if they only get rid of turtle man

Good luck with that. As a person who goes there regularly I don't believe that Kentucky will ever change.

Kentucky is "Better Russian than Democrat" right?

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#13 Serraph105
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@horgen: Preeeeety much yeah.

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#14 horgen
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@Serraph105 said:

@horgen: Preeeeety much yeah.

Because those Russians are better than pesky Democrats. :P

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That would be nearly be a death blow. Without TX, national elections would heavily lean Dem.

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#16 Zaryia
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They are simply going to increase voter suppression techniques.

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#17  Edited By Jacanuk
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@shellcase86 said:

That would be nearly be a death blow. Without TX, national elections would heavily lean Dem.

Hmm, ok a death blow?

Republicans got 304 EC against Democrats 227 EC. And Texas is 38 EC (41 in 2024)

Presidential elections are still a popularity contest. Also, Texas would probably go away from being a winner takes all state and become a district EC state.

Considering that a huge majority of the state is red and it´s only the border regions and the big cities that lean blue.

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#18 horgen
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So changing the winning system when leading party realise the state isn't safe anymore... Not surprised.

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#19 ad1x2
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A legitimate question I have is whether or not part of the reason Texas may be turning purple is due to people from states like New York, California, and other blue states moving to red states like Texas to escape their higher taxes and costs of living, but with those people continuing to vote Democrat when they get there.

Last year, CNBC published an article based on an op-ed from the Wall Street Journal (subscription required) estimating that 800,000 people were moving out of New York and California due to their tax burdens. At the same time they do dispute the findings due to their still large populations among more wealthy residents and their rising millionaire populations.

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#20  Edited By shellcase86
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@Jacanuk said:
@shellcase86 said:

That would be nearly be a death blow. Without TX, national elections would heavily lean Dem.

Hmm, ok a death blow?

Republicans got 304 EC against Democrats 227 EC. And Texas is 38 EC (41 in 2024)

Presidential elections are still a popularity contest. Also, Texas would probably go away from being a winner takes all state and become a district EC state.

Considering that a huge majority of the state is red and it´s only the border regions and the big cities that lean blue.

You missed the nearly portion.

I doubt this will happen by 2020, but whenever it happens it'll be much tougher for the GOP on a national level. Locally, they'll probably still do as well as they do now, for quite some time.