George W. Bush: "Bigotry or white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed."

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#1 nintendoboy16
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Source: Washington Post

As I keep saying, I'd never thought I'd miss his presidency, because after how BAD he ended up as a president, he still ends up more considerably sane than what we have now.

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#2 JoshRMeyer
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WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

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@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

You realize NatEn supported Trump right?

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@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

Any thoughts related to Bush Jr's words or are you just here to attack the source?

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You know it's bad when liberals start to congratulate a former president who led this country astray into a war it had no business of going into and an economic collapse that wrecked the nation...

@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

How is the WaPost unreliable or the equivalent to the National Enquirer?

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god makes me miss W more and more and i hated him lol

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#7 Serraph105
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@drunk_pi said:

You know it's bad when liberals start to congratulate a former president who led this country astray into a war it had no business of going into and an economic collapse that wrecked the nation...

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WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

How is the WaPost unreliable or the equivalent to the National Enquirer?

I don't know about congratulating, but he certainly seems to have more of the gravitas that one expects a president to have than the current toddler in the white house.

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#8  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

WaPo has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes lol.

Why are you so offended that they report what President Trump does?

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#9 Zaryia
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@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

BS. They broke some of the most significant stories this year and peabodys/pulitzers out the ass. High accuracy rate and highly trusted compared to any RW source.

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@perfect_blue said:
@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

WaPo has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes lol.

Why are you so offended that they report what President Trump does?

Lefties are in charge of awarding Pulitzers. :P

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When you find yourself looking back nostalgically at the days of George W. Bush, you know the country is fucked.

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#12  Edited By Serraph105
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@xdude85 said:

When you find yourself looking back nostalgically at the days of George W. Bush, you know the country is fucked.

Screw it, let's throw another log on the bonfire. Let's get Kid Rock elected.

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@Serraph105 said:
@xdude85 said:

When you find yourself looking back nostalgically at the days of George W. Bush, you know the country is fucked.

Screw it, let's throw another log on the bonfire. Let's get Kid Rock elected.

It's both funny and scary how many people think like this.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

Source: Washington Post

As I keep saying, I'd never thought I'd miss his presidency, because after how BAD he ended up as a president, he still ends up more considerably sane than what we have now.

Who cares what the shit post says? Maybe they should begin to fact check their own articles and not be another clickbait newspaper.

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@perfect_blue said:
@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

WaPo has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes lol.

Why are you so offended that they report what President Trump does?

Sure, and it´s not like they are known for being fake news now.

'Fake News' And How The Washington Post Rewrote Its Story On Russian Hacking Of The Power Grid

On Friday the Washington Post sparked a wave of fear when it ran the breathless headline “Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.” The lead sentence offered “A code associated with the Russian hacking operation dubbed Grizzly Steppe by the Obama administration has been detected within the system of a Vermont utility, according to U.S. officials” and continued “While the Russians did not actively use the code to disrupt operations of the utility, according to officials who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss a security matter, the penetration of the nation’s electrical grid is significant because it represents a potentially serious vulnerability.”

Yet, it turns out this narrative was false and as the chronology below will show, illustrates how effectively false and misleading news can ricochet through the global news echo chamber through the pages of top tier newspapers that fail to properly verify their facts.

The original article was posted online on the Washington Post's website at 7:55PM EST. Using the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, we can see that sometime between 9:24PM and 10:06PM the Post updated the article to indicate that multiple computer systems at the utility had been breached ("computers" plural), but that further data was still being collected: “Officials said that it is unclear when the code entered the Vermont utility’s computers, and that an investigation will attempt to determine the timing and nature of the intrusion.” Several paragraphs of additional material were added between 8PM and 10PM, claiming and contextualizing the breach as part of a broader campaign of Russian hacking against the US, including the DNC and Podesta email breaches.

So sure a long time ago they may have been a more reliable newspaper but today they are pure shit.

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It's both funny and scary how many people think like this.

To be fair after watching Barack Obama continue the Bush timeline in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as kill the idea of universal healthcare in favor of the Republican alternative, I am no longer convinced that voting for a good president accomplishes much. If voting for a Democrat gets you Republican ideas, perhaps voting for a (insert negative Kid Rock stereotype here) will give us all open immigration, universal healthcare, and peace.

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@zaryia: And highly biased.... They don't even try to cover up their obvious hatred for Trump. It's so one sided it makes me laugh reading it.

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@perfect_blue: I'm offended at how biased they are. Media shouldn't be like that. Unprofessional journalism. It's so obvious, it feels like a joke newspaper now.

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#19 Zaryia
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@joshrmeyer said:

@zaryia: And highly biased.... They don't even try to cover up their obvious hatred for Trump. It's so one sided it makes me laugh reading it.

@joshrmeyer said:

@perfect_blue: I'm offended at how biased they are. Media shouldn't be like that. Unprofessional journalism. It's so obvious, it feels like a joke newspaper now.

Perceived bias is quite different from being a Tabloid and publishing fake stories.

Also, It's hard to put positive spin on Trump stories.

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@Serraph105 said:
@perfect_blue said:
@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

WaPo has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes lol.

Why are you so offended that they report what President Trump does?

Lefties are in charge of awarding Pulitzers. :P

We're close to the point where anyone literate is considered a lefty.

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@joshrmeyer said:

@perfect_blue: I'm offended at how biased they are. Media shouldn't be like that. Unprofessional journalism. It's so obvious, it feels like a joke newspaper now.

I'm convinced that if Trump actually did shoot someone in broad daylight on fifth avenue, the flurry of news reports condemning the action would be met with whining about how biased the media reports are.

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@mattbbpl: All he has to do is change his skin tone and it makes this newspaper.

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@mattbbpl: Sounds like a Hillary comment.

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@zaryia: You'd have to be blind not to see the bias... They report some facts and omit others. It's painfully obvious. They could at least try to hide the bias a bit to sound like a legitimate news company.

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@mattbbpl said:
@Serraph105 said:
@perfect_blue said:
@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

WaPo has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes lol.

Why are you so offended that they report what President Trump does?

Lefties are in charge of awarding Pulitzers. :P

We're close to the point where anyone literate is considered a lefty.

To be fair there's only one book anyone really needs. :P

Lord of the Rings obviously, stop being so quick to judge!

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@joshrmeyer said:

@zaryia: You'd have to be blind not to see the bias... They report some facts and omit others. It's painfully obvious. They could at least try to hide the bias a bit to sound like a legitimate news company.

Yes, they are center left. But not really as biased as other places like Fox or MSNBC. WaPo is extremely reputable.

Certainly not close to what your original post stated.

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@vl4d_l3nin said:
@Serraph105 said:
@xdude85 said:

When you find yourself looking back nostalgically at the days of George W. Bush, you know the country is fucked.

Screw it, let's throw another log on the bonfire. Let's get Kid Rock elected.

It's both funny and scary how many people think like this.

don't forget when kayne west runs for president

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@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

Let me guess, leftist news outlet? What a joke.

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@Serraph105 said:

To be fair there's only one book anyone really needs. :P

Lord of the Rings obviously, stop being so quick to judge!

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

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#30 Serraph105
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@mattbbpl said:
@Serraph105 said:

To be fair there's only one book anyone really needs. :P

Lord of the Rings obviously, stop being so quick to judge!

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

Oh yeah! Atlas Shrugged. Never did read that book, but I've considered doing so many times. I just can't bring myself to read a book that's caused so much damage over the years.

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And here people thought he was the worst President the United States ever had...

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#32 Serraph105
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@foxhound_fox said:

And here people thought he was the worst President the United States ever had...

Time makes fools of us all.

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@Serraph105 said:
@mattbbpl said:
@Serraph105 said:

To be fair there's only one book anyone really needs. :P

Lord of the Rings obviously, stop being so quick to judge!

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

Oh yeah! Atlas Shrugged. Never did read that book, but I've considered doing so many times. I just can't bring myself to read a book that's caused so much damage over the years.

Haha! Seriously, reading Atlas Shrugged was a chore. There's a reason why it's decried by critics (shitty writing) and deplored by people with moral principle. Save yourself 1200 pages of shitty allegory for entitle brats arguing that they're entitled to EVERYTHING.

'Who is John Galt?' - An asshole.

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@HoolaHoopMan: I know it's a joke... Try reading some of the articles. They are the trolls of the media lately. Guess they're still holding a grudge that Hillary didn't win. Sad.

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@zaryia: Yeah, I wouldn't quote fox as a source either. BBC is where decent news is at.

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@HoolaHoopMan: I know it's a joke... Try reading some of the articles. They are the trolls of the media lately. Guess they're still holding a grudge that Hillary didn't win. Sad.

Then what do you consider sources or truth? List your frequented new sites/papers, etc.

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@HoolaHoopMan: I don't trust any news site 100%. But for the most non-biased news, seems like BBC is ok.

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@joshrmeyer: OK. The BBC is reporting this as well. Take your pick.

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@mattbbpl: Seems like a good read. It's anti-trump but without the biased attitude. All the points they make are right and written like a professional.

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@joshrmeyer: OK. The BBC is reporting this as well. Take your pick.

Balls is in your court. Is the BBC leftist as well?

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@joshrmeyer said:

@mattbbpl: Seems like a good read. It's anti-trump but without the biased attitude. All the points they make are right and written like a professional.

Curious how anti-trump lines up with objective analysis.

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#42  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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What a time to be alive.

@mattbbpl said:

We're close to the point where anyone literate is considered a lefty.

Weren't we talking about a survey a while back where the majority of Republicans distrust universities?

What a time to be alive.

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@perfect_blue said:

What a time to be alive.

@mattbbpl said:

We're close to the point where anyone literate is considered a lefty.

Weren't we talking about a survey a while back where the majority of Republicans distrust universities?

What a time to be alive.

Yes, and it's still my most hated aspect of the modern Republican party (which is saying a hell of a lot).

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#44  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@joshrmeyer said:

WaPo is the National Enquire of news outlets.

See posts like this tell me you're not just here for entertainment....and no. Anyway I would take Bush the second back over trump and he wasn't my idea of a great president.

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@mattbbpl said:
@Serraph105 said:

To be fair there's only one book anyone really needs. :P

Lord of the Rings obviously, stop being so quick to judge!

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

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Good for Bush. Be nice to see more republicans stand up.

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#47  Edited By JoshRMeyer
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@HoolaHoopMan: Just saying it was well written, unlike WaPo's stuff.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@Serraph105 said:
@mattbbpl said:
@Serraph105 said:

To be fair there's only one book anyone really needs. :P

Lord of the Rings obviously, stop being so quick to judge!

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

Oh yeah! Atlas Shrugged. Never did read that book, but I've considered doing so many times. I just can't bring myself to read a book that's caused so much damage over the years.

Haha! Seriously, reading Atlas Shrugged was a chore. There's a reason why it's decried by critics (shitty writing) and deplored by people with moral principle. Save yourself 1200 pages of shitty allegory for entitle brats arguing that they're entitled to EVERYTHING.

'Who is John Galt?' - An asshole.

I tried reading Atlas Shrugged. I wanted to see why people held it in such high regard... I regret everything.

  • Preachy as ****
  • Naive, overly idealistic narrative
  • Terrible characterization
  • Strawmanning abound
  • Poorly thought out scenario
  • Pacing so bad it makes the modern Persona games feel good.
  • Laughably bad plot points, and a plot so far up its own ass it makes Metal Gear Solid blush.
  • The whole thing just felt like some buffoon's wishful thinking.
  • Edit: Speaking of which, Show don't tell is a great storytelling technique. Unfortunately, Ayn Rand doesnt seem to understand this.
  • Edit 2: Also complete disregard for economic theory.

I have read better fanfiction.

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@xdude85 said:

When you find yourself looking back nostalgically at the days of George W. Bush, you know the country is fucked.

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#50 Jacanuk
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@sayyy-gaa said:
@xdude85 said:

When you find yourself looking back nostalgically at the days of George W. Bush, you know the country is fucked.

Ya, the liberals are a fun group.

One moment they hate the guy and deem him the worst and the next they salute him as a hero to america and forget all the shit he did.

Liberals you got to admire sometimes how much they believe in their own BS.