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#1  Edited By Sevenizz
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If he’s such a racist as we’ve all been led to believe, then how is his soon to be ex-wife Asian?

https://boingboing.net/2020/06/01/wife-of-george-floyds-killer.html

If you know anything about racists or white supremacists, they don’t mate outside their race. Also, I watched the horrific video, I didn’t hear any racism spouted by any of the cops.

Why isn’t any media talking about this? Had this been made public early on, maybe destruction could’ve been avoided. This is clearly a police brutality case - not a racist one.

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#2 Chutebox
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People just assume it's about racism. It is 100% about that individual's police brutality though.

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#3 Willy105
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@Sevenizz said:

If he’s such a racist as we’ve all been led to believe, then how is his soon to be ex-wife Asian?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/alt-right-asian-fetish.html

https://www.thelily.com/the-alt-right-likes-asian-american-women-we-shouldnt-be-surprised/

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#4  Edited By Sevenizz
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@Willy105: Like most fetishes, that’s fringe and not the norm.

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#5 Willy105
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@Sevenizz: There's a reason why it's a meme that you can predict the demographics and political beliefs of a random internet user with an anime avatar, because there's a bit of truth to it.

Also, remember that just because one isn't racist towards Asians (and the Asian fetish absolutely is racism), it doesn't mean they aren't racist to any race whatsoever. One doesn't contradict the other.

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#7  Edited By SOedipus
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Who cares? The fact is, he murdered someone.

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#8  Edited By Sevenizz
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@Willy105: It’s still not the norm in white supremacist groups - hence the first two words of their beliefs.

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#9 Willy105
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@Sevenizz: Sure, but it answered your initial question. You were confused why a white supremacist would have an Asian wife, and I showed why that is common to white supremacy.

I hope it helped. :)

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#10  Edited By Sevenizz
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@SOedipus: Had that been the narrative, I’m sure there’d be a lot less rioting. The point I’m making that it wasn’t race related as there’s no proof of it.

Every confrontation between people of different races isn’t always racism. Dare I say, it’s racist to assume it is.

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#11 mattbbpl
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The "I can't be racist against black people because I have an asian ex-wife," is a weird twist on the "I can't be racist against black people because I have a black friend," trope.

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#12 VirusVaccine21
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You do realize racism against blacks is wide-spread in south east Asia, right? I don't think you've ever travelled outside your southern state - I can bet on that, but that's the truth. A white offer getting married to an Asian doesn't prove anything.

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#13 Sevenizz
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@mattbbpl: So is assuming every confrontation between people of different races is racist.

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#14 mattbbpl
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@Sevenizz said:

@mattbbpl: So is assuming every confrontation between people of different races is racist.

How is that also a twist on the aforementioned trope?

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#15 DrLostRib
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I think you're misunderstanding a number of issues here

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#16 Sevenizz
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@drlostrib: like?

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#17 DrLostRib
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@Sevenizz said:

@drlostrib: like?

well for starters your complaint that his wife/divorce wasn't reported on

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That was a good effort op.

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#19 Sevenizz
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@drlostrib: That wasn’t my complaint at all. My issue is false racism accusations. There’s no proof race was a factor. I bring up a logical theory why I don’t think it’s a racist issue.

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#20 DrLostRib
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@Sevenizz said:

@drlostrib: That wasn’t my complaint at all. My issue is false racism accusations. There’s no proof race was a factor. I bring up a logical theory why I don’t think it’s a racist issue.

you complained about media reporting in your topic, even though his wife has been reported on

But you still seem to be missing the whole issue

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#21 Sevenizz
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@drlostrib: And you don’t have a clue what I’m talking about...still.

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#22 DrLostRib
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@Sevenizz said:

@drlostrib: And you don’t have a clue what I’m talking about...still.

No, i get what you're aiming at. But it seems you're missing the real issue

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#23 Sevenizz
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@drlostrib: Which is what?

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#24 npiet1
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I get what you're saying and it very well could be true, however police are known for racially profiling. I've experienced that a number of times myself.

I do think people bringing up race every chance they can get isn't helping the cause. People are like I'm black, I'm white etc. Why not I'm just American or I'm just Aussie. The only time ethnicity matters is for medical reasons. Everyone should be treated 100% the same at all, no benefits because of race. (Don't know why it can't be an income thing). Any thing else is by definition racist.

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#25 Sevenizz
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@npiet1: ‘however police are known for racially profiling’

True, but it’s part of the job when they make up a majority of who you deal with in the inner city. That may sound racist, but it’s a statistical fact.

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#26 npiet1
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@Sevenizz said:

@npiet1: ‘however police are known for racially profiling’

True, but it’s part of the job when they make up a majority of who you deal with in the inner city. That may sound racist, but it’s a statistical fact.

Yeah and I 100% agree. I could say a certain % but that gets labeled "Racist" instead of "problem"

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#28  Edited By Nude_Dude
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This is the most idiotic take in a sea of idiotic takes. Keep deflecting away from america's huge racism issue as hard as you can.

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#29 Sevenizz
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@Nude_Dude: It’s not as bad as your CNN/MSNBC would have you believe and it’s not the case in this instance as there’s no proof of it.

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#30 Chutebox
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@Sevenizz: From what I read on here, dude showt two minorities prior and has complaints against him from the public.

Initially I agreed that there was no proof race was an issue. But if that info is true, it's race based by this idiot.

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#31 Sevenizz
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@Chutebox: He’s also in an inner city which has a high percentage of urban crime in his district.

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@Sevenizz:

It is the institutions our societies have in place that are racist. Systemic racism has created an environment where an INNOCENT black man can be murderer by a cop on camera and the cop still doesn’t get charged, or takes years to even fire him. (The cop that killed Eric Garner didn’t get fired until 5 years after he murdered him.)

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#33 xdude85
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Holy goalpost moving, Batman!

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#34 LJS9502_basic
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One does not preclude the other.

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@Sevenizz said:

If he’s such a racist as we’ve all been led to believe, then how is his soon to be ex-wife Asian?

https://boingboing.net/2020/06/01/wife-of-george-floyds-killer.html

If you know anything about racists or white supremacists, they don’t mate outside their race. Also, I watched the horrific video, I didn’t hear any racism spouted by any of the cops.

Why isn’t any media talking about this? Had this been made public early on, maybe destruction could’ve been avoided. This is clearly a police brutality case - not a racist one.

You’ve never heard of selective racism?

There has been a long history of selective racism around the world.

You can find many studies of selective racism in sociology textbooks.

In the UK there was systematic racism against Africans, then Jamaicans, then Indian and Chinese at different time periods. In recent decades the racism is aimed at the Polish and then Romanians.

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#36 Vaasman
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@Sevenizz said:

If he’s such a racist as we’ve all been led to believe, then how is his soon to be ex-wife Asian?

Why do we have to put up with this abject trolling?

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#37 tenaka2
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Why is this kid defending a murderer?

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#38 Nude_Dude
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@tenaka2: You know why

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#39 rmpumper
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Well, party is over guys, Sevenizz gave us evidence that the cop is not racists, so it was ok for him to kill the black guy. Move along, nothing to see here.

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#40 comp_atkins
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if there wasn't a racial element in the killing of suspects by police then there wouldn't be disproportionate killings ( relative to % of general population ) of blacks.

https://thesocietypages.org/toolbox/police-killing-of-blacks/


is the floyd incident strictly due to a racist cop and nothing else? hard to say, but to deny that there is a racial element to police killings is to ignore the data

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#41 SatireOfComedy
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@comp_atkins:

Post the data on black on white crime/murder.

To say there is not a racial component to the sheer amount of black on white crime is ignoring the data

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#42 tpz4sheezy
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Also, I would like to see a study on obeying police orders or resisting arrests. MAybe that could contribute to some of the data we see on blacks being killed by police. Btw I’m not saying what happened was right in Minnesota. That cop was wrong and hopefully will be held accountable. With that said, what do these protesters want? Are people supposed to protest every time a black person is killed by police? I got news for you it won’t be the last. Millions of people are arrested each year and when someone resists arrests it becomes a physical altercation. All physical altercations can be dangerous. If someone falls or slammed the wrong way they could die. I’m sure hundreds die from tasers alone. Should cops just stand there and beg people to comply without any force? I just want to know the end game here. I get it police brutality needs to stop but sometimes they have to use force and as long as they use force people will die.

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#43  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Dude can be racist and married to an Asian woman. The whole "subservient Asian woman" stereotype really appeals to pricks who think of marriage as "owning" a woman.

In fact it's not only racism, but chauvinism as well.

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@Sevenizz said:

If he’s such a racist as we’ve all been led to believe, then how is his soon to be ex-wife Asian?

Why do we have to put up with this abject trolling?

Can't thee invoketh thy hammer of banning?

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#44 Nude_Dude
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@satireofcomedy: in less than 30 posts you've made antisemitic remarks and went for the racist 'but what about [black on white / black on black] crime statistics' dogwhistle... you sure you're hiding your power level well enough?

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#45  Edited By Litchie
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He can't dislike black people if he's got an asian girl? Great logic.

But yeah, I think people are too quick to blame racism. Especially black people. Still going on about how white people enslaved them. No one alive today enslaves black people. We didn't do it. So why still bring it up, and blame current white people for it? Black people enslaved black people before white people did. Bring that up some more.

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#46 Sevenizz
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@Nude_Dude: ‘racist 'but what about [black on white / black on black] crime statistics'

So, ignore facts because they’re racist? Huh?

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#47 SatireOfComedy
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@Nude_Dude:

I am not anti Semitic. I am anti Judaism there is a difference. Also I support ending targeting of POC. Why can’t you support ending targeting of white people ?

Sounds to me like you hate white people

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Lots of fascists coming out of nowhere around here.

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#49 sealionact
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@tpz4sheezy: No, no,no....you dont get to say that "people that resist will face physical force, and some will die..." in this conversation. The guy didnt resist. 3 other officers stood by and did nothing as a man was murdered while pleading for his life, by an officer who has a history of killing. He didnt resist and even if he had, the officer had subdued him and they could have cuffed him easily.

I'm not saying you are defending this guy, I can see you know this is just wrong but this isnt the time to talk about what the police should do when dealing with aggressive criminals because we're talking about why a non aggressive "criminal" was killed when lying on his front in a subdued position.

Besides, Police have tactics for dealing with aggressive people. I know it's a damn hard job, and yes...tragic mistakes can happen, but this event deserves the reaction it's getting because it must never happen again.

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#50 Sevenizz
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@sealionact: You can’t just accept this particular cop was bad and thankfully he has been charged for a horrible crime? What is a protest that almost always turns into a riot going to solve? Especially at the beginning of a depression.