Four arrests in UK due to affiliation with National Action, a banned Neo Nazi group.

Yorkshire Post

Alice Cutter and former partner Mark Jones were jailed alongside co-accused Garry Jack and Connor Scothern today (Tuesday) for playing "significant" and "trusted" roles in National Action, which was proscribed in December 2016 by the then-home secretary Amber Rudd.

Former Miss Hitler beauty pageant contestant Cutter, 23, had sent messages in which she joked about gassing synagogues, using a Jew’s head as a football, and exclaiming “Rot in hell, bitch” after hearing of the murder of MP Jo Cox.

The court heard yesterday (Monday) how "frustration with a lack of activism" in her native Yorkshire led Cutter to join the NA’s Midlands sub-group, whose membership was “determined to defy the ban”. She had also made an attempt to recruit a 15-year-old girl, albeit unsuccessfully, to the group.

Nazi-admirer Jones meanwhile played “a significant role in the continuation of the organisation” after its ban in 2016.

A former member of the British National Party’s youth wing and a rail engineer, the 25-year-old was described at trial as a “leader and strategist” who played a “prominent and active role”.

Jones had originally been the group’s London regional organiser, and acknowledged posing for a photograph while delivering a Nazi-style salute and holding an NA flag in Buchenwald’s execution room during a trip to Germany in 2016.

Both he and Cutter are from Sowerby Bridge in Calderdale, West Yorkshire, with the couple making it “part of a pattern” in “targeting individuals for recruitment at a time when National Action was a banned organisation”.

Extreme right-wing group National Action (NA), labelled “racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic”, was banned after a series of rallies and incidents, including praise of the murder of MP Jo Cox.

Cutter, who entered the Miss Hitler beauty contest as Miss Buchenwald – a reference to the Second World War death camp – had denied ever being a member, despite attending the group’s rallies, in which banners reading “Hitler was right” were raised.

She was told by a judge: “You never held an organisational or leadership role”, and that she had been a “trusted confidante” of one the group’s leaders, as well as being in a “committed relationship” with Jones.

Prosecutors described Cutter and Jones, both of Sowerby Bridge, near Halifax, West Yorkshire, as well as Jack and Scothern as “active” group members, even after the ban.

Jack, 24, of Heathland Avenue, Shard End, Birmingham, had attended almost every meeting of NA’s Midlands sub-group.

He also had a previous conviction, from before the group was banned for plastering Birmingham’s Aston University campus with NA’s racially charged stickers, some reading “Britain is ours, the rest must go.”

Scothern, 19, of Bagnall Avenue, Nottingham, was “considered future leadership material” and had distributed almost 1,500 stickers calling for a “final solution” – in reference to the Nazis’ genocide against Jews.

Cutter was jailed for three years, while Jones received a five-and-a-half-year prison term.

Jack was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in prison, and Scothern was handed a sentence of detention for 18 months.

Speaking ahead of sentencing, the director of public prosecutions Max Hill QC described NA members as “diehards” who “hark back to the days of not just anti-Semitism, but the Holocaust, the Third Reich in Germany”.

They'd be welcomed with open arms in the US by comparison.

Aren't you American?

Also, "Former Miss Hitler beauty pageant" LOL. That is not something I ever imagined reading.

Edit: They'd be welcomed by this scumbag though. A self-described KKK leader charged for attack on BLM protestors.

Yes I am.

Just saying that when you look at anti-lockdown protests in Michigan (to the point where armed gunman stormed the town hall), the Charlottesville riots, the fact that the KKK has never been labeled a terrorist organization (meanwhile, Trump plans to with Antifa). It makes some differences between Tory/Brexit Britain and GOP/Trump America all the more staggering as hell.

@nintendoboy16: Because antifa/blm protests that almost always turn into riots are better? When all is said and done and the numbers come out, you’ll see far more destruction and death from the Left than right wing groups combined for the past twenty years. Not excusing right wing extremists, but left wing extremists are far more violent.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/right-wing-extremists-killed-38-2019-anti-defamation-league/

@br0kenrabbit: And destruction of property both municipal and personal? And some of those aren’t tied to any particular group and are lone wolves.

Chicago alone has ten times more black on black killings than right wing extremism combined. But let’s not address that because it’s not politically correct or trendy.

When's the last time you saw a left-winger walk onto an island and shoot up a bunch (80+) of kids?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-14259356

Bitch about broken windows all you want, we all know which side harbors the true terrorists.

@br0kenrabbit: ‘we all know which side harbors the true terrorists’

Internationally? Islamic extremism. Another group that gets less airtime due to political correctness.

‘broken windows’

...and burning down buildings, muggings, overturning cars, and destroying livelihoods.

Religion is the purview of the right, buddy. You know Islamic terrorists are classified as right-wing religious extremists, right?

I'm an atheist, wishing real hard that religion would Thanos snap out of existence right now.

@br0kenrabbit: And yet the Left makes excuses for them and their media underreports their actions. I highly doubt a single right wing extremist group would show allegiance with Islamic terrorists.

They agree on a hell of a lot of things, it's only their ignorant bigotry that prevents them from seeing they are natural allies.

I have not seen the left make excuses. I have seen the left take a wider view. But tunnel vision is endemic of the right pretty much by definition. That's what conservationism is, isn't it? The inability to envision something different?

Antifa and BLM has some work to do before they get close to match Nazis when it comes to destroying Europe. Nazis has a world war headstart.

These Neo Nazis are the worst. It's time to kick Trumps people out of America for good.

You're comparing broken windows to murder?

Rightwingers: "don't believe anything the media is showing you!"

*media runs with the rioting angle, shows broken windows and implicitly blames it on any protesters*

Rightwingers: "My god they destroyed the doors and windows of TARGET, a billion dollar insured multi-retail corporation! The logical response is to bring in our army and literally kill them on the streets! I am a normal citizen who is allowed to vote."

@br0kenrabbit: Ignore him. He will spout the same right wing nonsense no matter what.

Islamic terror is not left wing terror. Islamic culture and countries are conservative in nature.

Maybe not allegiance, but they certainly show a lot of similarities:

• Hatred of religion not their own; I could see Islamic terrorists teaming up with Neo-nazis to blow up a synagogue.
• Regressive view on society and religion.
• Oppress women.
• Prey/recruit on the young and poor.

You know what, the Newsroom can explain it better (ignore the hippie liberal context of this and just focus on the bulletpoints):

Pretty much sums up most right-wing fundamentalists of any creed. From redneck neo-nazis to Boko Haraem to the Taliban, ISIL, and Al Queda.

I'd sooner watch a dozen Targets burn down than see a single person murdered.

But that's just me. Some people out there actually are able to put a price on one's life and live with themselves *shrug*

https://news.wttw.com/2020/06/05/what-are-we-going-have-left-our-community-aldermen-react-panic-sorrow-unrest

"Ald. Raymond Lopez (15th Ward) demanded that Lightfoot develop a plan to stabilize Chicago’s neighborhoods for five days, calling his Southwest Side ward “a virtual war zone” where gang members armed with AK-47’s were threatening to shoot black people."

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/small-businesses-suffering-after-riots-coronavirus-pandemic/2283163/

"The small barbershop needs around $100,000 to repair damage and recoup what looters stole.... Co-owner Mike Khateeb tells NBC 5 looters smashed all his windows, stole his security camera system and TVs, and even took his barber chairs."

A lot of the small businesses in the different Chicago neighborhoods will never re-open.

That's the kind of stuff you're oblivious to apparently and it's not just in Chicago. Who the **** cares about Target.

@Karnage108: Thanks for proving my point. So, how many human lives should die on the street for the stores the media chose to focus on?

Meanwhile you have KKK public demonstrations.

You trolling again...

Pretty incredible that Europe finds it acceptable to imprison people because of their opinions, not because of their actions.

These things lead to actions pretty quickly. Also, saying "Hitler was right" and implying that jews should be gassed is not an opinion.

Most of Europe has zero tolerance for nazi shit, a practice the US could benefit a lot from. I guess your continent needs to be brought on the edge of destruction in order to take some matters seriously.

Love how this thread, which is about nazis, has been derailed with the usual 'bUt wHaT aBoUt bLm AnD aNTifA'

@Nude_Dude: No Europe is too restricting on speech. One can have and voice an opinion the rest of us would shake our heads at but shouldn't entail jail time.

Yeah but even saying that stuff still can get you socially punished here. No need to go to prison for it.

We have walked this path before. We know very likely where it ends. Bombs from WWII still poses a threat. Article from 201 about it.

Just to be clear, these people werent imprisoned simply for holding opinions. They were members of the National Action organisation - a legally designated terrorist group which is banned here in the UK.

@npiet1: It's quite the slippery slope. And here I thought Europe was about education and rehabilitation.

SHHH don't say that out loud. :P

@horgen: 🤐

Norway recently passed judgement on the latest rightwing terrorist here. 21 years with potentially prolonged indefinitely.

Yeah I saw that, the guy that was inspired by the New Zealand mosque attack. Hard to see him ever being released given his shocking crimes, extreme views and utter lack of remorse.

@horgen: I can't believe white supremacists can't kill people freely in Norway. That doesn't sound very democratic to me.

I expect him to be released some 25-30 years from now. Killing his adopted sister because she was from China or something like that.

I know. Horrific isn't it? :P

@horgen: No wonder Varg Vikernes moved out.

And changed his name...

@LJS9502_basic: Europe's doing the right thing, it's not just any opinion that gets you jail time... you know the ones that do. If people think they're being silenced for wrongthink when they spout nazi crap... well, it is wrong and they should shut the **** up.

In the UK especially there are e.g. numerous targeted attacks against migrants, so when you're posting about how much you'd like to hurt migrants on social media it's pretty much an overt threat. It's better than the alternative in the US... where people like richard spencer are out and freely posting on a platform twitter has provided for them.

Don't agree with thought police. But hey if you like restrictions...…….and less freedom......go for it.

I don't know what twisted sense of 'freedom' you think is being restricted when this allows for nazis to rally in cities and rile people up to join their cause... and run over people with their cars. I'm all for nazis getting nipped in the bud.

Typical far-left thinking and a serious lack of understanding as to why we have the freedoms we do in the US. I'm not even sure if you're referring to nazis a la WW2, or just any poor soul who happens to disagree with you.

If the former, well then we certainly agree on that, but the problem is that the left will label anyone a "nazi" and attack them just for disagreeing. That's not freedom, and I would much rather live in a society where the marketplace of ideas can flourish and allow me, as an individual, to come to the conclusion that REAL nazis are bad.

@Miyomatic: Are you following that guy? And everything you said applies to the right, the right compared the Gov of Michigan to Hitler and in California medical professionals got called Nazis by the right, even got death threats. Get off your pedestal and accept the right has gone batshit crazy recently.

Don’t sit there and act like conservatives are some peaceful freedom loving people while liberals are baby killing maniacs. When you got right wingers calling everybody Hitler and storming government buildings armed, you lose that privilege.

FYI, him stating Nazis rallying and running people over with cars actually happened. Learn recent history.

We don't throw around the Nazi term lightly in Europe, atleast not in my country. By the time you're publicly called it, you have proudly worn that badge for some time already.

We don't want to label anyone we disagree with as Nazis. Frankly we want to hear others opinions and encourage that. But spouting intolerance and hate?

It's not Europe. Just a couple countries in Europe? I'm in Europe and can say almost anything I want. I can publicly insult groups, on the town square if I want to, even based on their ethnicity as long as it's part of a discussion. As it should be. How else could my country be in the business of higher education if we weren't able to entertain 'hurtful' thoughts like in the UK?

And who is considering what is 'hurtful' from one generation to the next? The UK is rolling the dice with their fundamental freedoms much like the monarchies of old rolled the dice with their rulers and consequently their freedoms. Those systems only work until you happen to roll poorly and then you suddenly have a very big problem. That's a good reason to stop using those systems.

Yeah, a couple of countries in Europe.

According to Reporters without Borders, Netherlands (where oyu live) is the 5th freest country in the world in terms of freedom of speech? Only the Nordic Countries have less restricted speech (Norway > Finland > Denmark > Sweden > Netherlands).

https://rsf.org/en/ranking#

The countries where speech is the freest are all european.

HAHAHA, Australia 26 but NZ is number 9. Well that site lost all credibility.

"I disagree with the results therefore it loses all credibility"

How very intellectually dishonest.

New Zealand has had a strong history of freedom of press and expression. Which is what some people blame the christchurch shooting on. I kinda disagree with them on that, but you would have to be willfully ignorant to deny that New Zealand is free when it comes to speech.

Outside of one instance of flag burning (which was later on successfully appealed) what issues does New Zealand have with Flag Burning? Free speech is protected from the government pretty much. Compare this to Australia, where there was an actual police raid on ABC for investigative reporting. Not to mention their incredibly string anti-defamation/libel laws, which are anti-free speech by nature.

How we keep going from "being an outspoken nazi gets you punished" to "my FREEDOM is restricted, who knows what's next??" is beyond me. Nazi positions don't deserve to be part of any discussions, people are not rolling dices willy-nilly and deciding what's wrongthink. If you think this is a slippery slope, think again - people in the UK can also speak their mind freely pretty much.

Typical rightwinger logic conflating any criticism coming from the left with "literally Hitler". Stop getting your info on what the left thinks from memes you see on the internet.

See I can play this game too, I guess. The "left" (whatever nebulous term you have to it, as no single person totally represents the "left" and certainly not whatever weirdo you see on twitter to prop up your argument) doesn't designate anyone a nazi for "merely disagreeing", but when you spout essentially far-right talking points, white nationalist propaganda and dogwhistles used by modern-day nazis, then yeah you are treading dangerously close to them. What I see in the US is an overwhelming tendency to handwave issues like the fascist rally in Charlottesville (to which I referred to) and a real struggle to call them by their name (nazis) because of an apparent unfounded fear that everything can be deemed as nazism now.

@Nude_Dude: The guys who elected Miss Hitler are obviously being wrongly labelled as Nazis by the far left media.