Confederate HBO Show

So dont know whether this falls under political or not but whatever;

New show is coming to HBO after Game of Thrones called Confederate based on an alternate timeline where the Cobfederacy won the civil war and Slavery operates as a modern institution.

Of course left is already up in arms detesting the show for being racist etc etc.

Personally I think the concept is kind of cool and has a lot to teach us historically about how bad it could've been. Thoughts?

I think the issue has more to do with the cancellation with a highly-praised show called "Underground" (where you have abolitionists fighting against slavery) and then going for something like this where the Confederacy won. Although that part is complicated since even though Underground has good ratings (I'm taking the critics' word for it), it lacks the viewership to justify the spending. I think the show "Confederate" will get more viewers due to the subject matter, the controversy around it, and so on.

It's an interesting concept and there was a mockumentary called C.S.A. which explored the same concept. If it does get traction and become a show, I'll definitely check it out.

I'm interested.

Sounds interesting.

Two threads on this?

No mods to close one of them. Tho they are from each side, one from the left side accusing conservatives and one here accusing the left.

Yes the confederacy does not exist anymore but people still pride themselves in the south. Driving through the back roads around any southern state you'll see confederate memorabilia. There's even streets named "confederate" or after confederate generals. Some people are actually living this alternative timeline as if they won, minus slavery. Insane how the media works, this TV series will come out around the same time as the new Far Cry.

Never watched GoT but will give this show a watch.

@playmynutz:

You've never watched GoT? Oh man you must so watch that

Also house stark ftw

Tell them winter came for the Freys

Sounds interesting, I'd watch it.

I'm a Southern guy and I'm totally interested in this new HBO show. I always encourage Hollywood to TV developers pushing there ideas/imagination and if it involves political or whatever, this is for entertainment, nothing more/less. For an alternate timeline, it doesn't hurt to experiment what could've happen if the Civil War never happen.

@luckylucious: @doomdizzle: no idea what you two are saying lol I need to get hip, I have hbo go so going to see what's good this weekend.

David Benioff and D.B. Weiss show? Count me in

Also, why is this in the Political Gamers forum and not OT?

Haha be sure to download HBOGO and you can watch the series from S1E1 to the most recent. Pretty cool app, works on most smart tvs and on PS4/XB1

@luckylucious:

I'd watch it.

@luckylucious: I agree. You don't censor art just because it may offend someone. That isn't freedom in any way.

@playmynutz: And I'm all for the people of the south respecting a part of history. I am for no Confederate flags on gov property because we don't fly the Union Jack or Japanese or German flags there either. The confederate States declared themselves a separate nation and lost a war with the United States. You don't fly their flag on US govt property.

Because the line between politics and everything else is so blurred people don't know where to put stuff a lot of the time. This separate board keeps political conversation out of OT, but part of that separation is accepting that we won't all agree on all the items that go here vs OT and vice versa.

@cainetao11: good point, the confederate flag does not have business to be on government property.

@doomdizzle: first episode is still available? Cool!

Agreed.

There is plenty of literature based on if the Confederates won. I wonder how much inspiratino they will draw from those?

They were created at the same time. So Luckylucius had no idea that Zaryia was creating one and Zaryia had no idea Luckylucius was creating one.

It will be interesting on how much one will have to suspend reality to immerse in the show. Even if the south successfully succeeded it's not like slavery would be around today. We would most likely be treating the south as Mexico.

Well, I really enjoyed the show where the Nazis won (Man in the High Castle), I am sure a show about the Confederacy winning might be pretty good, too.

Why don't the left wait until the show has aired before getting angry about it?

I will give it a try once a few episodes are out.

Two threads on the same show:

Conservatives get Triggered over Game of Thrones' creators' next show.

That thread was pointing out how right-wingers are getting triggered.

And now this thread is pointing out how left-wingers are getting triggered.

Like I said in that thread, people on both sides of the political spectrum have issues with it.

And funnily enough, it always seem to be the bigger partisan hacks too. The biggest ideologues.

The horseshoe theory strikes again?

Edit: I do of course dislike the horseshoe theory, but I still agree with the point it is trying to make. Which is to say, the deepest ideologues have a lot more in common than they think they do. The only difference is their rhethoric. They also hate eachother depsite ultimately preaching the same garbage.

Funny how that often applies to religion too.

@Maroxad: In this case, left-wing snowflakes and right-wing snowflakes have a lot in common.

Isn't there some show where we're ruled by USSR or some shit like that?

It's an alternate universe, who cares.

The Man in the High Castle, where the Axis Powers won WWII, and America is divided between Nazi Germany ruling the eastern half and Imperial Japan ruling the Western half.

Didn't even know about that one. Thought there was a show on FX or something where Russia took over USA or some shit. Maybe I'm mistaken.

Edit: Nevermind, it was The Americans where it follows a couple KGB spies in America.

Edit2: Every time I hear/see KGB I think Archer. Man such a good show.

Yeah bud you just have to use the App. Beats the hell out of spending 100s on those damn blueray boxsets.

@doomdizzle: too bad HBO Go does not support 4k yet.

http://help.hbonow.com/app/answers/detailHBO/a_id/23/~/does-hbo-now-support-4k-video%3F

Edit: not that I would purchase blu rays. I just found out hbo go doesn't support 4k when Netflix and others do. Hbo go is solid nonetheless.

I wouldn't mind watching it, but for some reason, the first thing that came to mind after hearing about this was the movie C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America.

In the case of CSA, it was criticized for some of the things that took place that seemed unlikely if the south really did win, such as the Confederates annexing the northern states after they won the war rather than remain a separate nation. It would be interesting to see how they try to make this series seem semi-realistic, with legal (state-sanctioned) human slavery similar to what happened in America before the end of the Civil War being almost nonexistent in the modern world. Slavery does still exist in some forms, but you won't find too many countries openly admitting to it if they aren't doing anything to stop it.

Also, I've seen how people on both sides have opposed it. Some people on the left have opposed it because they said there is absolutely no way they could tastefully portray slavery in the modern day even if the goal of the show is to make the slave owners look like monsters, and some people on the right feel that the makers of the show will try to make it look like white conservatives in real life wish that slavery still existed, or will try to make sly comparisons to the Confederate slave owners and real-life conservatives (or Trump supporters to be more specific).