Christanity for points

I was reading a local article about a condemned inmate when I came across this sentence:

Johnson has been a model prisoner, becoming a Christian and helping other prisoners convert to Christianity.

I wonder what this person would have to say if Johnson had gone in a Christian, spent some time educating himself and became an atheist, then helped others do the same?

No, Johnson didn't get Clemency, he's set to die Thursday. I just thought that it's a strange thing to bring up.

The Christian supremacist mindset is fairly pervasive in our culture.

Being a Christian is not just a belief in Jesus but also a way of life. Being an atheist is just a belief.

I keep hearing that but never see it.

Most atheists are also humanists. We view other people as sovereign wholes with their own agency. How is that not a positive character development?

Oh good for a second I thought we'd go a week with rabbit complaining about religion. This isn't political by the way so maybe take it to OT.

@br0kenrabbit: I’m an atheist but true Christianity as a philosophy is a good thing, particularly the actual preachings of Jesus. Forgiveness, pacifism, love, and acceptance of all people.

Sadly modern Christians with their gun raffles, homophobia, and tribalism look nothing like that.

But that's the perception, and perceptions die heard.

Don't worry, Christians are depleting their goodwill as rapidly as they can.

Well this is just a big bowl of bullshit.

I agree his teachings were good, that doesn't make him God.

And yeah, my modern experiences with Christians have been them knocking on my door even through they've been told to stop and them protesting other people's rights.

Jesus didn't overturn the tables in the bar, he did so in the temple.

@joshrmeyer: No being an atheist is not a belief. It’s more like this:

Religious person: I believe in one God and it created everything.

Atheist person: Really show me proof.

That’s it really. They will believe in a God if there is proof that one exists.

You sound like a 13 year old.

@br0kenrabbit: I wonder if you get points for turning someone towards Islam? Or is it double standards as per usual

That's not the definition. Atheism is the belief that there is no god.

@kadin_kai: @joebones5000: dictionary.com

"noun

a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings"

That's not how forums work.

@joshrmeyer: Show me proof then!!!

@n64dd: I'm not the one passing anti-abortion laws while fertility clinics throw out embryos like candy at an Easter parade.

What is your point?

You literally made up a definition of a word that the conversation was built around, someone corrected you, you called it shit posting.

LOL

But he's right.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/atheism

It's not a belief. It's a lack of belief. Disbelief. Due to a lack of evidence. The complete opposite of a belief.

It's also the default human position, until the human is told about the potential 10,000+ fictional (until shown otherwise) deities. Many of which explicitly conflict with each other and are certain the other 99% of gods are fake. Like Christianity.

Yeah he owned himself.

Disbelief is the opposite of belief.

@zaryia: Why'd you delete your post to me? Or did a mod do it? You have your beliefs, I have mine.(or your disbeliefs)

This is funny, cause even just referencing new testament...

Matthew 10:34-39

34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

Supposedly these are words from the so=called pacifist, all loving, accepting of all people Jesus. So, Christ brings division just like every other deity man has created. Also it wasn't modern Christians who did numerous fallacious witch trials, crusades, inquisitions, genocide etc.

Also the morality of the book is subterranean in comparison to secular humanism.

Similes....similes everywhere but you don't see it.

@zaryia: Read your own link lol moron.

: a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/atheism

Lack of belief or strong believe of not believing in gods or gods. It’s not just having any belief at all because agnosticism would also be atheism.

You should read my 2 links again you dedicated troll only poster:

atheism

NOUN

mass noun

• Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

atheism

nounathe·​ism | \ ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm \

Definition of atheism

1a: a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods

b: a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods

Both Oxford and Merriam-Webster agree that Atheism is a disbelief or lack of belief.

Disbelief is the opposite of Belief. Lacking belief is the opposite of having belief.

Fact:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/disbelief

Near Antonyms of disbelief

acceptance, conviction, faith

Antonyms of disbelief

belief, credence, credit

You are a troll.

Wow arguing semantics. Yawn.

@zaryia: FACT CHECK.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/atheism

the doctrine or belief that there is no God.

disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

You are FACTUALLY wrong. Learn how to read. You can’t be this stupid. TROLL.

You are factually incorrect, my little low IQ far right extremist incel.

Atheism is a disbelief, not a belief. Quite literally the opposite. Your link even says it.

"disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings."

atheism

NOUN

mass noun

• Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

atheism

nounathe·​ism | \ ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm \

Definition of atheism

1a: a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods

b: a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/disbelief

Near Antonyms of disbelief

acceptance, conviction, faith

Antonyms of disbelief

belief, credence, credit

Furthermore, it is certainly not a religion. It requires no belief in fiction.

SMFH... Oh here we go with the mental gymnastics, so I will just see myself out.

@zaryia: Look at you back peddle. It’s a lack of faith in a deity as you posted. Not just a lack of belief. Watching you be wrong is so much fun.

Why are you lying, these are my 2 links I posted.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/atheism

Both explicitly say lack of belief and disbelief. Which are the opposite of belief. Why would I back peddle when my 2 links were 100% supporting my position no questions asked?

@n64dd said:

Watching you be wrong is so much fun.

I'm literally just quoting Oxford and Merriam. You're off your rocker and it is why you always lose against me.

Atheism is now a belief? I learn something new every day.

As for Christianity, it’s one of the most morally repugnant beliefs in existence.

Agnosticism isn't atheism. Agnosticism is your unsure or its unknowable. Atheism is the belief that there isn't a god/s.

Agnostics are unsure if there is a god. That's completely different from saying there is no god. If you ask an atheist if they believed in god they would say "No", some one who is agnostic would say "maybe, I'm not sure"

@npiet1: it's perfectly possible to be an agnostic atheist.

@joebones5000: A forum is for discussion.

I have not said anything offensive or aggressive. I only explained in very simple terms how an atheist thinks.

Let’s agree to disagree. Some men believe in science other have faith.

Have a good day!

Yeah I know but agnostic and atheist are two different things. You can be agnostic theist as well. Its just on which you lean more towards.

Some people can't read a dictionary and understand what they're reading. It's apparent in this thread.

You are right about what you're saying btw.

Say what? Love your neighbor? Give your neighbor what he wants? It's a pacifist belief system wherein you don't do violence nor harm others. And that's repugnant to you?

I don't care if you don't follow any faith. But damn at least know what you're whining about.