Bipartisan legislators demand answers from Fauci on 'cruel' puppy experiments -The Hill

A bipartisan letter demands answers from the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and President Biden's chief medical adviser.

The White Coat Waste Project, the nonprofit organization that first pointed out that U.S. taxpayers were being used to fund the controversial Wuhan Institute of Virology, have now turned its sights on Anthony Fauci on another animal-testing-related matter — infecting dozens of beagles with disease-causing parasites to test an experimental drug on them.

House members, most of whom are Republicans, want Fauci to explain himself in response to allegations brought on by the White Coat Waste Project that involve drugging puppies.

According to the White Coat Waste Project, the Food and Drug Administration does not require drugs to be tested on dogs, so the group is asking why the need for such testing.

White Coat Waste claims that 44 beagle puppies were used in a Tunisia, North Africa, laboratory, and some of the dogs had their vocal cords removed, allegedly so scientists could work without incessant barking.

Leading the effort is Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.), writing a letter to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) saying the cordectomies are “cruel” and a “reprehensible misuse of taxpayer funds.”

"Our investigators show that Fauci’s NIH division shipped part of a $375,800 grant to a lab in Tunisia to drug beagles and lock their heads in mesh cages filled with hungry sand flies so that the insects could eat them alive," White Coat Waste told Changing America. "They also locked beagles alone in cages in the desert overnight for nine consecutive nights to use them as bait to attract infectious sand flies."

Mace’s letter was signed by Reps. Cindy Axne (D-Iowa), Cliff Bentz (R-Ore.), Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), Rick Crawford (R-Ark.), Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.), Scott Franklin (R-Fla.), Andrew Garbarino (R-N.Y.), Carlos Gimenez (R-Fla.), Jimmy Gomez (D-Calif.), Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.), Fred Keller (R-Pa.), Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), Lisa McClain (R-Mich.), Nicole Malliotakis (R-N.Y.), Brian Mast (R-Fla.), Scott Perry (R-Pa.), Bill Posey (R-Fla.), Mike Quigley (D-Ill.), Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-Calif.), Maria E. Salazar (R-Fla.), Terri Sewell (D-Ala.), Daniel Webster (R-Fla.) and Del. Eleanor Holmes (D-D.C.)

The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Changing America.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/578086-bipartisan-legislators-demand-answers-from-fauci

Disgusting and this is not new. Basically our health organizations just pay to do these experiments over seas to avoid legalities here in the states. What they did to those pups is horrible.

This only got light shown on because Fauci was called out for lying to Congress about them funding gain of function research by Rand Paul. Since then people have been digging and finding out more stuff they have funded over seas.

Fauci would have really fit in with many of the scientists of the Nazi party.

Argentina and Brazil might be to his liking. He's been a joke since day one.

@Solaryellow: No he hasnt. This is just another right wing hit piece, all designed to discredit his stance on covid.

I don't take right wing talking points seriously. They constantly have something to be outraged about because they don't want to face facts.

@LJS9502_basic: Pretty much. Thats what they are using this as. Anything to distract from reality. Eoten is even trying to compare Biden to Hitler. Not sure if this is sad or scary.

Right, just like it was a right-wing conspiracy theory to suggest the NIH was funding gain of function research in Wuhan. It had to have been, Fauci denied those allegations. Yet, NIH has been forced to admit this to be the truth.

@eoten: citation needed

Honestly, there is a reason pharma corporations are often portrayed as a villainous faction. However, it looks like this article has mostly been refuted at this point, so I will wait for more information for The Hill to back up their stance.

I want to make a timeline showing various right wing outrage. But the graph is currently lacking a lot of information. But it shows very much just how hollow outrage culture is.

Here is my current work,

"Allegedly, 44 beagle puppies were used in a North Africa laboratory, and some of the dogs had their vocal cords removed so scientists could work without incessant barking."

Jesus christ...

Honestly, This isn't anything new. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), laboratories reported having approximately 43,000 dogs in their testing facilities in 2020. They test them on everything from pesticides to drugs for FDA approval. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) also requires that dogs be used in a 90-day pesticide test and the Food and Drug Administration, which regulates various products such as drugs, devices and food and color additives, will not approve potential drugs unless they are first tested on animals, which usually includes dogs since they have historically been used. This tactic has been used for decades, and the animal is typically killed to harvest and test the body after testing has been completed. Yeah, it's barbaric, but that's the price to pay for FDA drug approval.

Source:

https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/dogs-used-experiments-faq

it's hilarious that a generally well-respected scientist ( for decades under both R and D administrations ) is now the enemy of the rightnuts because he said people should wear masks and not cough on each other during a global pandemic

strange times we live in

How else do you gather data for LD50? Among other things...

The current state of affairs is truly bizarre. The gap between the two parties in basic understanding has become so vast that they can't speak to each other. I don't mean "speak to each other in civil tones" but rather "speak to each other in ways each will understand."

Communication requires some foundation upon which the two parties agree on and can refer to. But we've lost that foundation on basic cornerstones such as scientific consensus and philosophical groundings.

@comp_atkins: Happens when a con man takes over. I dont havecan opinion on this.

I'd like to see evidence that the grant provided by the NIH says "please torture cute puppies k thanks" because what this sounds like is a BS hitpiece where the government is providing to a multitude of general scientific facilities for a broad spectrum of animal testing, and one of those facilities just happened to be particularly mean to animal subjects. And no, animal testing is not fun, and many animals are mistreated or euthanized, but there aren't many alternatives if we want medical treatment to advance (it's the law that most medications must pass animal trials before human trials).

Not to mention I somewhat doubt Fauci himself had anything to do with it, all the article can say is the grant came from his department.

Oh no doubt. But the outrage man. Never mind things like the Rolling Stone investigation that shows members of Congress involved in planning January Sixth.

@LJS9502_basic: I knew it was a red herring. Dont worry about whats going on over there, focus on this puppy.

what with the seuss thing? why they made about that?

@Maroxad said:

Honestly, there is a reason pharma corporations are often portrayed as a villainous faction. However, it looks like this article has mostly been refuted at this point, so I will wait for more information for The Hill to back up their stance.

@LJS9502_basic said:

@thenation said:

@Solaryellow: No he hasnt. This is just another right wing hit piece, all designed to discredit his stance on covid.

I don't take right wing talking points seriously. They constantly have something to be outraged about because they don't want to face facts.

I want to make a timeline showing various right wing outrage. But the graph is currently lacking a lot of information. But it shows very much just how hollow outrage culture is.

Here is my current work,

Republicans selectively discover animal testing...how quaint.

It's definitely eye-catching to read for sure, I always presumed animal testing was mostly limited to rodents like rabbits/mice. Definitely a subject to dive further into and educate myself on.

"Our investigators show that Fauci’s NIH division shipped part of a $375,800 grant to a lab in Tunisia to drug beagles and lock their heads in mesh cages filled with hungry sand flies so that the insects could eat them alive"

There has got to be a better way to test what ever drug they are trying to make..

@sargentd: Sounds fake….

GOP has been brushing aside 700k human deaths and all of a sudden they're crying animal abuse?

L O L

What a weak hit piece.

@thenation: I hope it's fake, if that's real it's horrible and disgusting

@sargentd: Doesnt sound real. Other than our investigators, what is there?

I wonder if people will bring this up when Fauci makes a covid related recommendation.

"Can you trust this guy! Look at the type of research he is doing! We should take advice from the guy reccomending to drink desinfectant. He knows what's up."

OMG Republicans are getting woke now!!! Better late than never I guess.

@firedrakes:It has to do when they stopped selling a few books that contained racist material. There was a huge uproar about that.

@sargentd: It is disgusting indeed. This is why I have never been keen on Animal Testing. But at the same time, the results cannot be argued against. I did what I could though, and helped volunteer for scientific research, as a test subject.

Anyone who doesn't think it didn't come from a lab is kidding themselves. Even left wing commentators like Jon Stewart and Bill Maher (both of whom I think are amazing) agree it came from a lab.

Bats have been eaten for centuries. This video is so well done, and Colbert was cringing because he knows it doesn't fit the network's narrative.

@mysticaldonut: its messed up but its also true that the testing helped save lives. Can you blame fauci in that case?

Fauci man bad!

Fauci derangement syndrome!

@sonic_spark: lol. You dont know when you are being made fun of. And who brought up the lab theory? Other than you.

Your response to eoten regarding the NIH funding the Wuhan Lab. Of which, the connection is there: https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/10/25/nih-wuhan-lab-experiments-holmes-dnt-the-lead-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/

Being made fun of? By Jon Stewart? Don't deflect, this is not some right wing backwater conspiracy theory. It is a theory in which many prominent REAL liberals, not these progressive jokes, support.

Bill Maher: https://news.yahoo.com/bill-maher-blasts-big-tech-183200440.html

Jon Stewart explaining his appearance on Colbert: https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/jon-stewart-surprised-at-pushback-sharing-covid-19-lab-leak-theory

Biden official: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/16/politics/biden-intel-review-covid-origins/index.html

@sonic_spark: Ok bud. Lol.

The only lives Fauci cares about is his own. And let's stop pretending that scientific experiments are always and only being conducted for the interest of the public, and not quite often for sick curiosity. Science has all too often been used for evil and nefarious things, so the idea many people have that we should always assume they know or are doing what's best or only act out of benevolence is extremely misguided. A lot of fucked up shit has been done in the name of science, let's not forget that.

Arrogant to assume you know the motives of people whom you haven't even met.

really odd i cant find much info on this site... which is telling itself.

hell the about page is so poorly done. it trips over itself.

OP better not look up Anti-Tank Dogs or he'll pop a bolt.

Yet, you're assuming his motives are selfless. I just look at his history. You'll see quite a lot of parallels to his actions of the past when compared to today.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whitewashing-aids-history_b_4762295

No need to assume the motives he makes so apparent to anyone who has paid attention.