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#51 burntbyhellfire
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Let me make this perfectly clear, billionaires have no right to exist, because no matter how hard you work in life, you CAN NOT EVER make a billion dollars unless the system is rigged, or you were already born into wealth. Rich people who have THAT much did NOT earn it, it was given to them courtesy of the "unwashed masses" tax dollars, AKA corporate socialism.

holy shit youre uninformed.. "billionaires" do not just stick their money in some safe and hang onto it or they'd be losing millions and millions due to inflation alone.. theyre called billionaires because of their net worth of the added value of all their held assets and owned businesses.. in order to become a billionaire you cannot just keep your money under a mattress somewhere but it gets put back into the companies they own in order to expand the reach and effectiveness of that company.. their "billions" are tied up into companies and investments and when those companies expand or those investments become successful it means job growth

fucking educate yourself and take that marxist bullshit to someone dumb enough to buy it

Actually, you are mostly wrong. While company assets do add up to quite a lot, there are A LOT of billionaires who do in fact have billions and billions, and keep all their money in safes over seas, and just sit on it, there are just a tiny handful of people who own more than half the entire worlds wealth, Jeff Bezos has over $120 Billion when you add everything up. These people pay nothing in taxes, pay starvation wages, drive people out of there homes, and neighborhoods through gentrification, and receive billions in welfare checks. They are the ultimate scam artists. And no, it most certainly does NOT result in job growth, quite the opposite. You need to educate yourself.

well tell me this, if all their money is overseas in a mysterious bank somewhere collecting dust.. then how is bernie sanders going to get them to buy you all that free shit he promised you?

answer: he isnt

Raise there taxes. You are not very intelligent, are you? You dream of trump nutting all over your face after giving him sloppy blow jobs, huh? lol You constantly referring to medicare for all, and tuition free college, the shit that EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS, as "free shit you don't deserve" still makes me giggle.

nothing stopping you from moving to any other country.. so if thats what you want, go pursue it because it's not going to happen here

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#52 LJS9502_basic
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@burntbyhellfire: Trim the quotes. And those who do not question their government are NOT patriots.

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#53 R-Gamer
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@AlexKidd5000: last time I checked homeless shelters still existed.

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#54 N64DD
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@AlexKidd5000: Which poor person has created even half that many jobs?

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#55 Solaryellow
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At least one person in this thread seems jealous of the wealthy and rich.

That's a simplistic way of looking at the issue. The wealthy do.....indeed.....get wealthy because of society. And they should contribute to that society. Honestly increasing their taxes a bit isn't going to put them in poverty. But it can ease the burden of the society that is contributing to their comfortable life style.

Everyone needs to pay. Period.

Simplistic is saying the wealthy get wealth because of society........while ignoring that we make conscientious decisions where and how we spend our money. Don't misunderstand and think I am suggesting every purchase we make is up for debate.

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#56  Edited By burntbyhellfire
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@burntbyhellfire: Trim the quotes. And those who do not question their government are NOT patriots.

and forcing people under the thumb of communism at gun point or with over taxation and destruction of the middle class is simply anti-american.. we fought a revolution specificly to be different from the "ever other country in europe is like that" nonsense.. im glad the united states isnt just like europe, its better, and its better because we do not elect people like bernie to destroy it

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#57 LJS9502_basic
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@burntbyhellfire: Trim the quotes. And those who do not question their government are NOT patriots.

and forcing people under the thumb of communism at gun point or with over taxation and destruction of the middle class is simply anti-american.. we fought a revolution specificly to be different from the "ever other country in europe is like that" nonsense.. im glad the united states isnt just like europe, its better, and its better because we do not elect people like bernie to destroy it

The taxation being relived is for the wealthy. NOT the middle class wherein their rights are continually eroded by the GOP. Which party is anti union? Which party gave permanent tax cuts to the rich and temporary tax cuts to the middle class?

We did NOT fight a revolution to be different. We fought for representation. You need to study history and then come back.

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#58  Edited By AlexKidd5000
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@LJS9502_basic said:

The taxation being relived is for the wealthy. NOT the middle class wherein their rights are continually eroded by the GOP. Which party is anti union? Which party gave permanent tax cuts to the rich and temporary tax cuts to the middle class?

We did NOT fight a revolution to be different. We fought for representation. You need to study history and then come back.

Exactly, it was fought so we could have a government that listens to us. And the policies that bernie fought for his whole life are the policies that the vast majority of people want. To call medicare for all, and tuition free public college, a rebuilt infrastructure, strong unions, the abolishment of private prisons, and systemic racism, higher taxes on the corporations, and the rich communism is absolutely ludicrous, and just shows his complete lack of education.

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#59  Edited By Zaryia
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@burntbyhellfire said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@burntbyhellfire: Trim the quotes. And those who do not question their government are NOT patriots.

and forcing people under the thumb of communism

That's objectively not communism unless you think Denmark, Norway, Sweden, etc. are communist.

With that said you sure as hell don't seem to mind the high taxed Blue States subsidizing Red States.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/10/30/blue-states-already-subsidize-red-states-now-red-states-want-even-more/

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#60  Edited By burntbyhellfire
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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

The taxation being relived is for the wealthy. NOT the middle class wherein their rights are continually eroded by the GOP. Which party is anti union? Which party gave permanent tax cuts to the rich and temporary tax cuts to the middle class?

We did NOT fight a revolution to be different. We fought for representation. You need to study history and then come back.

Exactly, it was fought so we could have a government that listens to us. And the policies that bernie fought for his whole life are the policies that the vast majority of people want. To call medicare for all, and tuition free public college, a rebuilt infrastructure, strong unions, the abolishment of private prisons, and systemic racism, higher taxes on the corporations, and the rich communism is absolutely ludicrous, and just shows his complete lack of education.

again, how does bernie plan to pay for the because those evil rich people you blame your own problems and failures in life on, aren't going to.. youre not going to get free college, or free healthcare as poor quality as those services would be even if they did.. where are you getting the money for it when "the rich" say no?

and you want to talk about lack of education, you actually think you're going to get free shit from this guy, he refuses to even pay his own campaign workers the $15/hr he says every business owner needs to pay their own employees

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#61 Sevenizz
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Thank god he doesn’t stand a chance. He’d ruin the US.

Trump 2020!

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#62 Shmiity
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Bernie walked with MLK and has been fighting for middle class rights for 30+ years. He is fucking legit. Dont talk shit- his voting record speaks for itself. I dont care at all that he is now a high $$ earner. He pushes legislation for low income people and never for his own tax benefit

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#63 AlexKidd5000
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@burntbyhellfire said:

again, how does bernie plan to pay for the because those evil rich people you blame your own problems and failures in life on, aren't going to.. youre not going to get free college, or free healthcare as poor quality as those services would be even if they did.. where are you getting the money for it when "the rich" say no?

and you want to talk about lack of education, you actually think you're going to get free shit from this guy, he refuses to even pay his own campaign workers the $15/hr he says every business owner needs to pay their own employees

Actually he does pay his campaign staff $15/h so does AOC.

And if Bernie was president, He'd have the power to raise the taxes on the rich, no matter what the hell they said.

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@Shmiity said:

Bernie walked with MLK and has been fighting for middle class rights for 30+ years. He is fucking legit. Dont talk shit- his voting record speaks for itself. I dont care at all that he is now a high $$ earner. He pushes legislation for low income people and never for his own tax benefit

if he truly believed people should be paid $15/hr, and considered that a living wage he'd pay his own people that even if it meant selling one of his vacation homes.. like everyone else on the left, none practice what they actually preach because they preach what they preach to buy votes in lieu of any legislation that would actually help anyone

bernie is a fraud

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#65 burntbyhellfire
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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@burntbyhellfire said:

again, how does bernie plan to pay for the because those evil rich people you blame your own problems and failures in life on, aren't going to.. youre not going to get free college, or free healthcare as poor quality as those services would be even if they did.. where are you getting the money for it when "the rich" say no?

and you want to talk about lack of education, you actually think you're going to get free shit from this guy, he refuses to even pay his own campaign workers the $15/hr he says every business owner needs to pay their own employees

Actually he does pay his campaign staff $15/h so does AOC.

And if Bernie was president, He'd have the power to raise the taxes on the rich, no matter what the hell they said.

then "the rich" will simply go elsewhere, and then not only are you not taking money from them at the higher tax rate, you're not taking it from them at a lower one either... then what'll you do to pay for your unsustainable garbage?

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#66  Edited By John35
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Thank you, I have not seen this video yet. Many people at that age do not keep up with the times.

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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@burntbyhellfire said:

again, how does bernie plan to pay for the because those evil rich people you blame your own problems and failures in life on, aren't going to.. youre not going to get free college, or free healthcare as poor quality as those services would be even if they did.. where are you getting the money for it when "the rich" say no?

and you want to talk about lack of education, you actually think you're going to get free shit from this guy, he refuses to even pay his own campaign workers the $15/hr he says every business owner needs to pay their own employees

Actually he does pay his campaign staff $15/h so does AOC.

And if Bernie was president, He'd have the power to raise the taxes on the rich, no matter what the hell they said.

Congress would have the power to raise or lower taxes. Congress.

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@burntbyhellfire said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@burntbyhellfire said:

again, how does bernie plan to pay for the because those evil rich people you blame your own problems and failures in life on, aren't going to.. youre not going to get free college, or free healthcare as poor quality as those services would be even if they did.. where are you getting the money for it when "the rich" say no?

and you want to talk about lack of education, you actually think you're going to get free shit from this guy, he refuses to even pay his own campaign workers the $15/hr he says every business owner needs to pay their own employees

Actually he does pay his campaign staff $15/h so does AOC.

And if Bernie was president, He'd have the power to raise the taxes on the rich, no matter what the hell they said.

then "the rich" will simply go elsewhere, and then not only are you not taking money from them at the higher tax rate, you're not taking it from them at a lower one either... then what'll you do to pay for your unsustainable garbage?

funny thing about that...they leave anyway.

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#69  Edited By AlexKidd5000
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@burntbyhellfire: over blown as usual. Some people in bernies campaign staff went to the media for some stupid reason, releasing details about the union negotiations before they were finalized, they are still on going. Big fat nothing burger.

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#70 Xabiss
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@AlexKidd5000 said:

This is the Bernie I love seeing, being real, and telling it like it is.

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So does this fall under the category of hypocrisy, irony, or poetic justice? All three?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/19/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-union-clash/index.html

Just shows what this guy truly is all about. ROFLMAO!

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#71  Edited By AlexKidd5000
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@Xabiss: that's the article I read and refered to as a big fat nothing burger. Bernie is not being hypocritical lol. You obviously only read the headline, bernies campaign staffers are going to be limited to 40 hours a week at 15 dollars an hour, as opposed to the 60 they were working. Hardly hypocritical. This is a presidential campaign funded by small donations, it's not a business, so money is kinda tight.

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#72 Xabiss
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@Xabiss: that's the article I read and refered to as a big fat nothing burger. Bernie is not being hypocritical lol. You obviously only read the headline, bernies campaign staffers are going to be limited to 40 hours a week at 15 dollars an hour, as opposed to the 60 they were working. Hardly hypocritical. This is a presidential campaign funded by small donations, it's not a business, so money is kinda tight.

A presidential campaign raking in MILLIONS of dollars, but the budget is tight! Just stop!

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00000528&cycle=2020&type=I

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#73  Edited By AlexKidd5000
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@Xabiss: actually I was wrong about that. They are still getting payed $15/h for 40 hours a week. So I don't get how this is controversial.

You can't say the media is wrong when the say mean things about Trump, but right when they say mean things about bernie, do you have any idea how hypocritical that makes you look?