Another right wing white supremacist commits a mass shooting

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#1 Nuck81
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Los Angeles Times: Disturbing portrait emerges of Gilroy Garlic Festival shooter.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-07-29/gilroy-garlic-festival-shooting-suspect

Gilroy shooter confirmed to be right wing terrorist who bought his gun legally in order to commit murder.

Maybe we just need to regulate guns to Republicans?

Supreme Court said that a president can use military funds for national emergencies.

We have a violent right wing uprising in America. It's a national emergency.

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oh yeah, the 8,000 or so homicides in year in places like chicago and baltimore are totally republicans while some idiot on a gamespot forum tries using a lunatic in california to call for military action against US citizens based on political ideology he disagrees with.. gee, i wonder whats the greater threat to the american people

and oh look, another nutjob knowing he wasnt going to survive his attack on innocent violating other laws in the process.. whoda thunkit?

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Needs moar guns.

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#4 Karnage108
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@Nuck81:

With this thread title I shouldn’t even take you seriously, but 3 people = mass shooting? He could have just as easily plowed his car through a crowd and killed more people.

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@burntbyhellfire: you're triggered.

Hopefully you don't own any guns

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@Karnage108 said:

@Nuck81:

With this thread title I shouldn’t even take you seriously, but 3 people = mass shooting? He could have just as easily plowed his car through a crowd and killed more people.

3 killed, 12 injured, shot an ak47 into a crowded venue. Only reason it wasn't more was because police were close to or on site, and killed the gunman within a minute. What else would you call it?

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According to Pelosi, at least 4 people need to have been shot for it to be considered a mass shooting.

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@Vaasman: doesn’t really matter what I call it. From what we know about the man who committed the shooting, how would you have prevented him from inflicting that kind of harm on people?

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@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

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Meanwhile, about 30 people died yesterday in various Democrat run inner cities. Where’s the bleeding heart Liberals on that?

Silence...

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@Nuck81:

So only Republicans cause the shootings?

California has some of the strictest gun laws around yet this happened. It’s nearly impossible to buy a gun in a Chicago yet there is more gun violence there then any other city in the US. It’s also a city dominated by Democrats.

When are Democrats going to stop pointing the finger and provide a viable solution?

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@Karnage108: "When are Democrats going to stop pointing the finger and provide a viable solution?"

Yeah, reigning in access to such weapons is nothing. I'll offer them my thoughts and prayers in the hope that they'll realize Republican's solution of thoughts and prayers is far superior.

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@Karnage108 said:

@Vaasman: doesn’t really matter what I call it. From what we know about the man who committed the shooting, how would you have prevented him from inflicting that kind of harm on people?

Don't sell someone an AK 47 without an experience and background check?

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@Nuck81: To answer your question it doesn't matter. You're not taking my guns because a few morons every year decide to kill people.

Also this guy was half Iranian but I love how we just call him a white supremacist lol.

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@r-gamer: so being half Iranian excludes someone from being racist or a white supremacist?

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@Karnage108: is deflecting your only response?

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@burntbyhellfire: you're triggered.

Hopefully you don't own any guns

i dont think you understand what triggered means.. youre the one foaming at the mouth calling for military action against US citizens based on your political alignments.. people who think military should be used to silenced political opposition is exactly why the 2A exists in the first place

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@burntbyhellfire: so you're pro murder and crime then?

GOP the pro mass murder by white supremacist party.

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@Nuck81: From being racist? No

From being a white supremacist? Yes

It's like Rachel Dolezal trying to be black.

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#20  Edited By Zaryia
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@burntbyhellfire said:

oh yeah, the 8,000 or so homicides in year in places like chicago and baltimore are totally republicans while some idiot on a gamespot forum tries using a lunatic in california to call for military action against US citizens based on political ideology he disagrees with.. gee, i wonder whats the greater threat to the american people

and oh look, another nutjob knowing he wasnt going to survive his attack on innocent violating other laws in the process.. whoda thunkit?

This thread is about mass shootings.

You seem triggered.

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@r-gamer said:

You're not taking my guns

But why shouldn't there be universal background checks?

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@zaryia said:
@burntbyhellfire said:

oh yeah, the 8,000 or so homicides in year in places like chicago and baltimore are totally republicans while some idiot on a gamespot forum tries using a lunatic in california to call for military action against US citizens based on political ideology he disagrees with.. gee, i wonder whats the greater threat to the american people

and oh look, another nutjob knowing he wasnt going to survive his attack on innocent violating other laws in the process.. whoda thunkit?

This thread is about mass shootings.

You seem triggered.

The point is that mass shootings make up an extremely small percentage of homicides by firearms. Much less than 1%.

I think its fair to point out that many people and the media, only speaks out when its a "mass" shooting (it was 3 in this case) but say nothing for the more typical act of gun homicide. No one speaks out when 30 shootings happen in a single weekend in Chicago.

But this lunatic will break headlines across the nation because it feeds a narrative people drool over.

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@Karnage108 said:

@Nuck81:

It’s nearly impossible to buy a gun in a Chicago yet there is more gun violence there then any other city in the US.

Incorrect or misleading,

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555580598/fact-check-is-chicago-proof-that-gun-laws-don-t-work

@Karnage108said:

When are Democrats going to stop pointing the finger and provide a viable solution?

They have tried. It is called Gun Control legislation. The GOP doesn't seem to care though.

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@jeezers said:
@zaryia said:
@burntbyhellfire said:

oh yeah, the 8,000 or so homicides in year in places like chicago and baltimore are totally republicans while some idiot on a gamespot forum tries using a lunatic in california to call for military action against US citizens based on political ideology he disagrees with.. gee, i wonder whats the greater threat to the american people

and oh look, another nutjob knowing he wasnt going to survive his attack on innocent violating other laws in the process.. whoda thunkit?

This thread is about mass shootings.

You seem triggered.

The point is that mass shootings make up an extremely small percentage of homicides by firearms. Much less than 1%.

I think its fair to point out that many people and the media, only speaks out when its a "mass" shooting (it was 3 in this case) but say nothing for the more typical act of gun homicide. No one speaks out when 30 shootings happen in a single weekend in Chicago.

But this lunatic will break headlines across the nation because it feeds a narrative people drool over.

Yes, we know, Gun Violence is bad no matter who does it.

Hopefully politicians will understand this and try to pass more gun control legislation.

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@zaryia: I'm no against that neccesarily. The problem is the way the Bill's are introduced and are often made as gateways for strict gun control. I'd have to see a specific bill though to see if I was willing support it. For an example one law was passed that if you were put on a ( no fly list) you couldn't own a gun. The problem is nobody could tell you what put you on the " no fly list" .

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@zaryia said:
@jeezers said:
@zaryia said:
@burntbyhellfire said:

oh yeah, the 8,000 or so homicides in year in places like chicago and baltimore are totally republicans while some idiot on a gamespot forum tries using a lunatic in california to call for military action against US citizens based on political ideology he disagrees with.. gee, i wonder whats the greater threat to the american people

and oh look, another nutjob knowing he wasnt going to survive his attack on innocent violating other laws in the process.. whoda thunkit?

This thread is about mass shootings.

You seem triggered.

The point is that mass shootings make up an extremely small percentage of homicides by firearms. Much less than 1%.

I think its fair to point out that many people and the media, only speaks out when its a "mass" shooting (it was 3 in this case) but say nothing for the more typical act of gun homicide. No one speaks out when 30 shootings happen in a single weekend in Chicago.

But this lunatic will break headlines across the nation because it feeds a narrative people drool over.

Yes, we know, Gun Violence is bad no matter who does it.

Hopefully politicians will understand this and try to pass more gun control legislation.

No legislation will stop someone on a suicide mission. Just like how no legislation is going to stop a felon from getting a gun if they want one. Your legislation and laws only have an effect on people who follow the law.

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@jeezers said:

No legislation will stop someone on a suicide mission. Just like how no legislation is going to stop a felon from getting a gun if they want one. Your legislation and laws only have an effect on people who follow the law.

Legislation could be the difference between someone on a suicide mission with an AK 47, and someone on a suicide mission waggling a knife. Also if there is improved regulation that means weapons are better tracked and accounted for, which means less likelihood of them finding criminals instead of well meaning individuals.

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@jeezers said:

No legislation will stop someone on a suicide mission. Just like how no legislation is going to stop a felon from getting a gun if they want one. Your legislation and laws only have an effect on people who follow the law.

This isn't entirely true.

Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientific-evidence-that-stricter-gun-control-works-saves-lives

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@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

The Democrats want all guns confiscated so the country can become like Nazi Germany, Russia under Stalin and China under Mayo. Six million killed in Germany, twelve million in Russia, eighty million in China. With the Democrats it is not about gun violence but about control. Every policy and everything they do is about control.

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@jeezers: no legislation is going to prevent a crime someone wants to commit.

Let's not have any laws.

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Americans have demonstrated beyond any doubt that they cannot be trusted with gun ownership.

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@r-gamer: people of iranian decent are listed as white by law in America.

How white does a person have to be until they are able to consider themselves a white supremacist?

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@JimB said:
@Nuck81 said:

@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

The Democrats want all guns confiscated so the country can become like Nazi Germany, Russia under Stalin and China under Mayo. Six million killed in Germany, twelve million in Russia, eighty million in China. With the Democrats it is not about gun violence but about control. Every policy and everything they do is about control.

I prefer my China under mustard.

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@JimB said:
@Nuck81 said:

@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

The Democrats want all guns confiscated so the country can become like Nazi Germany, Russia under Stalin and China under Mayo. Six million killed in Germany, twelve million in Russia, eighty million in China. With the Democrats it is not about gun violence but about control. Every policy and everything they do is about control.

It's absolutely amazing how 260 million Americans get by every single day not owning a gun. Thank you for protecting us from Hitler!!!

edit: fixed math.

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@Vaasman said:
@jeezers said:

No legislation will stop someone on a suicide mission. Just like how no legislation is going to stop a felon from getting a gun if they want one. Your legislation and laws only have an effect on people who follow the law.

Legislation could be the difference between someone on a suicide mission with an AK 47, and someone on a suicide mission waggling a knife. Also if there is improved regulation that means weapons are better tracked and accounted for, which means less likelihood of them finding criminals instead of well meaning individuals.

no it wont.. and groups that tend to organize suicide attacks prefer explosives almost exclusively for the obvious reasons of doing more damage than guns, requiring no resources to make, and no skill to use.. but you can make functioning firearms, rather easily with parts you can buy from a hardware store, and full auto too

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@joebones5000 said:
@JimB said:
@Nuck81 said:

@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

The Democrats want all guns confiscated so the country can become like Nazi Germany, Russia under Stalin and China under Mayo. Six million killed in Germany, twelve million in Russia, eighty million in China. With the Democrats it is not about gun violence but about control. Every policy and everything they do is about control.

It's absolutely amazing how 260 million Americans get by every single day not owning a gun. Thank you for protecting us from Hitler!!!

edit: fixed math.

and amazing how about 150 million gun owners get by without committing a single crime either

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@JimB said:
@Nuck81 said:

@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

The Democrats want all guns confiscated so the country can become like Nazi Germany, Russia under Stalin and China under Mayo. Six million killed in Germany, twelve million in Russia, eighty million in China. With the Democrats it is not about gun violence but about control. Every policy and everything they do is about control.

no shit, when the guy who started this thread even stated he wants the military to be used against the right

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@burntbyhellfire said:
@joebones5000 said:
@JimB said:
@Nuck81 said:

@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

The Democrats want all guns confiscated so the country can become like Nazi Germany, Russia under Stalin and China under Mayo. Six million killed in Germany, twelve million in Russia, eighty million in China. With the Democrats it is not about gun violence but about control. Every policy and everything they do is about control.

It's absolutely amazing how 260 million Americans get by every single day not owning a gun. Thank you for protecting us from Hitler!!!

edit: fixed math.

and amazing how about 150 million gun owners get by without committing a single crime either

150 million??? That double the amount the best data we have. It's also amazing how Americans with guns, despite those on the right claiming they don't commit crimes with them, manage to murder approx 10,000, and wound nearly 100,000 other Americans each year with their guns. They're such wonderful, law-abiding citizens, aren't they?

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@burntbyhellfire: quote where I said I wanted to use the military against the right wing.

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#40  Edited By Zaryia
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@burntbyhellfire said:
@JimB said:
@Nuck81 said:

@Karnage108: how many people have to be killed before Republicans care?

The Democrats want all guns confiscated so the country can become like Nazi Germany, Russia under Stalin and China under Mayo. Six million killed in Germany, twelve million in Russia, eighty million in China. With the Democrats it is not about gun violence but about control. Every policy and everything they do is about control.

no shit,

That's just fictional bull.

They do not want all guns confiscated, and they do not hold any policy of Nazi Germany, Russia, or China that resulted in the deaths of those people. It's even more odd in that Nazi Germany was fascist which is right wing.

Several modern countries have much tighter gun control and are not like Nazi Germany. In fact those countries have higher quality of life and HDI than USA at the moment. Gun Control works.

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"Supreme Court said that a president can use military funds for national emergencies.

We have a violent right wing uprising in America. It's a national emergency."

you know damn well what you were saying

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@burntbyhellfire: read that again outloud to yourself really really slowly.

Put emphasis on the word between military and for

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@burntbyhellfire said:

"Supreme Court said that a president can use military funds for national emergencies.

We have a violent right wing uprising in America. It's a national emergency."

you know damn well what you were saying

I hope the next Democrat president declares a national emergency for all the gun violence and puts in place tighter gun control. Like Universal Background Checks, which 90% of Americans want.

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@Nuck81: Many latinos are considered white too. It's a great way for people to bend statistics to fit their narrative. Generally to be considered white you need to be mostly of European descent. White supremacist would consider Iranians of Arabic descent.

I'm just saying I don't think many white supremacist groups would allow him in.

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@zaryia: They do want AR15's banned though. And yes some Democrats are completely for the banning of firearms.

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Another example of a right wing terrorist that was led down a path of violence and anger by the cult of white supremacists.

@burntbyhellfire said:

"Supreme Court said that a president can use military funds for national emergencies.

We have a violent right wing uprising in America. It's a national emergency."

you know damn well what you were saying

You're lack of self-awareness is amazing my dude.

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@r-gamer said:

@zaryia: They do want AR15's banned though. And yes some Democrats are completely for the banning of firearms.

Absolutely. It's the best solution to the gun problem.

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It's been confirmed this little shit is some white supremacist then? I'm very leery of painting someone into a corner or group until we've done our homework.

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@joebones5000 said:
@r-gamer said:

@zaryia: They do want AR15's banned though. And yes some Democrats are completely for the banning of firearms.

Absolutely. It's the best solution to the gun problem.

Which is why they shouldn't give an inch. It is (practically) never going to be enough.

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