A Texas couple wore face masks at a restaurant to protect their immunocompromised infant. The owner asked them to leave

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#1  Edited By deactivated-622fe92f3678e
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/21/texas-restaurant-mask-ban/

https://www.henryherald.com/news/a-texas-couple-wore-face-masks-at-a-restaurant-to-protect-their-immunocompromised-infant-the/article_8c9a9484-5ade-5cfc-9199-8f35ad335342.html

https://www.kten.com/story/44781853/masked-parents-asked-to-leave-texas-restaurant

Sick. I dont want to hear shit about you being told to wear a mask when conservatives harrass people for wearing one. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere.

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#2 Telekill
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We can actually agree on this. It should be a matter of individual choice.

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@Telekill: You missed the point, its the hypocrisy here.

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#4 Telekill
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@thenation: Yeah. It comes from both sides though. We actually have common ground here. Should be individual's choice on wearing a mask.

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#5 HoolaHoopMan
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Within his rights to refuse service. He's certainly an idiot though. I hope he loses business.

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#6 VFighter
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So it was ok to kick out customers who wore MAGA hats from restaurants and the left cheered and agreed, but this is bad now?

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#7 LJS9502_basic
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@Telekill said:

@thenation: Yeah. It comes from both sides though. We actually have common ground here. Should be individual's choice on wearing a mask.

No it shouldn't. When your choice impacts other then you lose that choice.

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#8 deactivated-622fe92f3678e
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@HoolaHoopMan: Yes on both accounts.

@vfighter: nice whataboutism. Nobody brought that up.

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#9  Edited By palasta
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If the restaurant has a no-mask policy, they have a no-mask policy.

If the parents are so worried about their child, shouldnt they seek out restaurants with mask policy?

How do masks work again? When wearing a mask it doesnt protect you from getting covid, but an infected with mask will have a sufficient barrier to protect others.

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#10 LJS9502_basic
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@palasta said:

If the restaurant has a no-mask policy, they have a no-mask policy.

If the parents are so worried about their child, shouldnt they seek out restaurants with mask policy?

How do masks work again? When wearing a mask it doesnt protect you from getting covid, but an infected with mask will have a sufficient barrier to protect others.

There was no policy posted and they weren't told until they ordered. Pay attention.

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#11 VFighter
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@LJS9502_basic: If you're vaccinated and wearing your mask how's it impacting you exactly?

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#12 Telekill
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@LJS9502_basic: Nope. Highly disagree. The masks do nothing to prevent the spread of the virus itself. Only when you're coughing do most of these masks prevent anything and that's droplets with the virus in it. From the sounds of it, America reached "heard immunity" with near 80% either being vaccinated or having natural antibodies from having Covid. Wearing a mask should be choice.

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@Telekill: Heard immunity but still averaging 100k infected a day? Sounds like herd immunity isnt working so well.

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#14 Telekill
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@thenation: Those that are worried should stay home then. Personal choice.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-622fe92f3678e
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@Telekill: I shouldnt have to give up my freedoms or ability to pay my bills because others dont want to wear a mask or get vaccinated. I would lose my job if i stayed home.

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#17 Telekill
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@thenation: I shouldn't have to give up my freedoms because of your authoritarian worldview... and I won't.

If you're vaccinated or had Covid already, you shouldn't be worrying about the unvaccinated at all as you're already as protected as you're going to get.

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#18  Edited By deactivated-622fe92f3678e
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@Telekill: You need to grow up. Nobody is taking your freedoms away and there is nothing authoritarian about anything ive done or said. The only person threatening freedoms here are you towards mine. You litterally just said i should live in poverty and lose my job because you dont want to wear a mask, that is authoritarian and a direct threat towards my life.

You dont know how vaccines work or the fact vaccines become worthless when covid mutates because people like you wont wear a piece of six inch cloth.

Nobody should give up their livlihood or get sick and die because of you. Period.

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#20  Edited By Telekill
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@thenation: Hyperbole. No threat was made. You go ahead and keep believing all the lies the media keeps dishing out.

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@girlusocrazy: He doesnt care about anybody but himself. There is no logical argument against masks or vaccines.

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#22 Telekill
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@girlusocrazy: It's up to the parents to protect their child. If the child is compromised to a virus that's running rampant, perhaps they shouldn't take the child out of the house to go eat.

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#23  Edited By deactivated-622fe92f3678e
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@Telekill: How is telling me to lose my job not a threat towards my life? It is and you know it. The only person beliving lies is you. You cant talk your way out of this.

The child wasnt with them you…..Go back to system wars. Man you are such a fascist! Telling where they can and go and do!

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@Telekill said:

@LJS9502_basic: Nope. Highly disagree. The masks do nothing to prevent the spread of the virus itself. Only when you're coughing do most of these masks prevent anything and that's droplets with the virus in it. From the sounds of it, America reached "heard immunity" with near 80% either being vaccinated or having natural antibodies from having Covid. Wearing a mask should be choice.

Cases and deaths say herd immunity does not exist. Masks do help stop droplets that people expire when talking etc. Many videos that show how they work. Also I care because mutations may/will not be stopped because of the anti vaxxers. The science does not lie and it's not on your side.

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@LJS9502_basic: Well said. But he doesnt care about people.

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#27 Telekill
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@thenation: I never said to lose your job. I never threatened your life. Please quote where I stated such a thing.

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@vfighter said:

@LJS9502_basic: If you're vaccinated and wearing your mask how's it impacting you exactly?

If I'm drunk driving and you're wearing a seat belt how's it impacting you exactly?

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#29 Telekill
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@girlusocrazy: Good.

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#30  Edited By deactivated-622fe92f3678e
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@Telekill:

“ Those that are worried should stay home then. Personal choice.”

If we stay home then we lose our jobs. You need to think before you post. Im not giving up my job for you.

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#32  Edited By Telekill
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@thenation: Personal choice. Your freedoms don't outweigh anyone else's. And again, I never stated to lose your job. You feel free to wear the mask. You're already as protected as you're going to get.

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@Telekill: 🤦‍♂️ But yours do it seems. And you did, while saying we should give up our freedoms while falsly claiming yours were under attack. You still dont get how vaccines or viruses work.

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#34 Telekill
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@thenation: You're making many assumptions. What it really boils down to is that we had common ground that these parents shouldn't have been tossed out of the restaurant for wearing masks. Then you decided that wasn't a good thing, having a commonality with a conservative, so you wanted to ensure we were still on opposing sides.

Don't worry. We can agree on small aspects but still be opposition to one another on everything else.

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@LJS9502_basic: You do realize mutations are happening with vaccinated right or did you just forget about that.

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Ah, yes, what a fabulous story. We have a child at home to protect but we're going to a busy indoors restaurant with friends and a restaurant with a live band, take off our mask anyways at the start, but eat/drink with no mask because COVID doesn't affect you when you're eating or drinking. Lol But yes, kicked out because "we wanted to wear masks to protect our son". 🤡

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#37 lundy86_4
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So they went out to a restaurant with an immuno-comprimised child... Why?

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#38 LJS9502_basic
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@vfighter said:

@LJS9502_basic: You do realize mutations are happening with vaccinated right or did you just forget about that.

That would be extremely rare

Where is your source?

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@lundy86_4 said:

So they went out to a restaurant with an immuno-comprimised child... Why?

No they did not.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@lundy86_4 said:

So they went out to a restaurant with an immuno-comprimised child... Why?

No they did not.

Misunderstood. They went out and wore masks whilst the child was being looked after. My bad. Still not the smartest move (you still have to care for your child), but the parents should be allowed to wear masks.

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@girlusocrazy said:

@lundy86_4:The child wasn't with them, and to have a couples night out

Thanks. Definitely misinterpreted.

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#43  Edited By deactivated-622fe92f3678e
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@Telekill: You completley misinterpeted this whole thing. My annoyance is you saying i should stay home after i pointed out politely herd immunity didnt work. You are now trying to politicze this and turn into me oppressing you so you can play the victim card. 🙄

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#44 Telekill
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@thenation: Wow. That's some serious mental gymnastics you had to do.

Imagine thinking that this has anything to do with politics when it was politicized in the initial post and created in the politics sub forum. 🙄

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@Telekill: 🤦‍♂️ Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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@LJS9502_basic: "That would be extremely rare. Where is your source?"

My guess it is the same point was being pushed based on a study about a specific vaccine for chickens. It was being used in the anti-vaxxer fight so much the author of the study had to denounce its misappropriation by the Covid anti-vaxxers.

It's a study of Marek's disease. Without the vaccine the birds die in 10 days but the virus doesn't mutate as the birds that get it die thus cutting its transmission and therefore it's mutation. The first generation vaccine used could keep the birds alive thus allowing for variants to come from the continuous transmission. He argues extrapolating from this to assume same will happen with Covid is wrong as for the Marek's vaccine they have developed multi-generations of vaccines that further reduce transmission and increase the efficacy against variants. This is likely what will continue to happen with the Covid vaccine as well. What helps most to cut mutation chance is to combat transmission, and as we know being vaccinated cuts down chances of getting it, and wearing masks and social distancing also cuts down on transmitting it if one unknowingly has it, things the anti-vaxxing anti-masking Karens won't do anyways so a bit preposterous to think they care about it mutating.

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#47 Eoten
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Lmfao, cherry picking incidents to whine about restaurants doing to people wearing a mask the same kind of bullcrap you cheered others for doing to people who didn't. Can't have it both ways, either a private establishment can refuse service based on whether or not someone wears a mask, or they can't.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@palasta said:

If the restaurant has a no-mask policy, they have a no-mask policy.

If the parents are so worried about their child, shouldnt they seek out restaurants with mask policy?

How do masks work again? When wearing a mask it doesnt protect you from getting covid, but an infected with mask will have a sufficient barrier to protect others.

There was no policy posted and they weren't told until they ordered. Pay attention.

I didnt claim anything to the contrary. Who has to pay attention here?

The couple was asked to take off the masks, they refused to comply. At what point they were informed isnt relevant.

Furthermore:

So when they put their masks on the other night, they were reminded that at the front to take it off. They didn’t want to, and so we asked them to leave,” the owner continued.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/09/18/rowlett-restaurant-owner-explains-no-mask-policy-after-asking-family-to-leave/

It seems they were asked twice. When they entered, then they took off the masks and put them back on again. The second reminder mentioning the not so polite manager makes more sense now.

Second part of my post was, the parents on one hand claiming they want to be extra precautios because of their child, but proceed to minimze the effectiveness of masks by mingling with people who are not as covid aware as they are.

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#49 Eoten
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@palasta said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@palasta said:

If the restaurant has a no-mask policy, they have a no-mask policy.

If the parents are so worried about their child, shouldnt they seek out restaurants with mask policy?

How do masks work again? When wearing a mask it doesnt protect you from getting covid, but an infected with mask will have a sufficient barrier to protect others.

There was no policy posted and they weren't told until they ordered. Pay attention.

I didnt claim anything to the contrary. Who has to pay attention here?

The couple was asked to take off the masks, they refused to comply. At what point they were informed isnt relevant.

Furthermore:

So when they put their masks on the other night, they were reminded that at the front to take it off. They didn’t want to, and so we asked them to leave,” the owner continued.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/09/18/rowlett-restaurant-owner-explains-no-mask-policy-after-asking-family-to-leave/

It seems they were asked twice. When they entered, then they took off the masks and put them back on again. The second reminder mentioning the not so polite manager makes more sense now.

Second part of my post was, the parents on one hand claiming they want to be extra precautios because of their child, but proceed to minimze the effectiveness of masks by mingling with people who are not as covid aware as they are.

More likely, they heard around town this restaurant asks people to take their masks off and then decided to go there.

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#50 LJS9502_basic
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@palasta: Ah so you're going by the owner. He's not biased. They were asked at the door while their ID was being checked. You'd assume that was the reason. They weren't told they couldn't wear it at all inside.