thinking about picking up a ps3, need some advice

so I'm thinking about picking up a ps3 and my options are a refurbished/pre-owned 500gb ultra slim for $160 or a new 12gb ultra slim for $270 what is the better deal?

$270!?!? where the hell do you live? it should be far less.

You can get a PS4 for $270 and like two games. That price is ridiculous and unrealistic. Go for the cheaper one and keep looking around. You might find a better deal.

In what planet a PS3 is $270 ?

HK Dollars?

Avoid those 12GB machines. That hard drive is so small, many bigger games will not even fit into it. So, get PS3 with at least 250GB hard drive space.

ps3 250gb (you will need the hard drive space) also.. those prices are way too high you can get a ps4 slim with 2 games for 290€

If you purchase a 12 GB you'll need to purchase a HDD ( reason why they are a lot cheaper ), on the other hand, you'll be able to purchase whatever size HDD you want and not have to upgrade in the future.

Plant of ps3s out there with a 500GB hard drive that are cheaper. Just face to shop around.