PSA: Do not buy Fatal Frame 2 from PSN, it's broken.

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#1 RandoIphF
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It has severe audio skipping/stuttering in cutscenes, and textures flicker in the mansions, and sometimes just vanish, ruining the immersion and providing a severe distraction.  Do not recommend a purchase at this time.  SCEA is aware of the problem, but is still advertising and selling the game.

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#2 MonkeySpot
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Out of curiosity, did you delete and re-download to make sure you're bringing a proper claim of "broken", before posting? I'm not going to buy it as a DL, because I still have my PS2 version... But it's best not to post that something is broken until you have tried to fix it, and then alerted Sony to the issue to see what they say. Posting here is helpful, but only after you've done some investigation & trouble-shooting.

:)

Thank you for your consideration of fellow gamers, regardless.

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#3 happy_dude64
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Your PS3 is dumb, go redownload it.

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#4 locus-solus  Online
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i have had problems with downloads on psn before mostly being corrupted. there only 1 game that i bought on there that had audio problems Spyro, the Dragon n i didn't try redownloading i might try n c if it makes a difference
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#5 RandoIphF
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Out of curiosity, did you delete and re-download to make sure you're bringing a proper claim of "broken", before posting? I'm not going to buy it as a DL, because I still have my PS2 version... But it's best not to post that something is broken until you have tried to fix it, and then alerted Sony to the issue to see what they say. Posting here is helpful, but only after you've done some investigation & trouble-shooting.

:)

Thank you for your consideration of fellow gamers, regardless.

MonkeySpot
SCEA is aware, the store update blog and forums have discussions on it. Deleting and redownloading does nothing, people with fat PS3's with software emulation claim it was a problem back in the day when they tried to play physical copies on them. Really let down that this got past quality control, I have twenty PSone games and five PS2 classics as well, and this is the only one that doesn't run just as well as it did on the original hardware.
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#6 Kravyn81
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...and this is the only one that doesn't run just as well as it did on the original hardware.RandoIphF
Yet another reason why it's not a bad idea to always keep the original console for the original software it released on.
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#7 Pffrbt
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Disappointing. I never got to play Fatal Frame and was looking forward to downloading it.

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#8 MrCoolGuy420
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I purchased a digital copy of fatal frame 2 a couple of days ago, from the PSN, and I'm having the same issues. but only in the first couple of chapters this has happened. and the issues stopped, when I reached chapter 4.I'm now on the final chapter of the game now and everything seems to be running fine although theres still a little audio skipping on some cutscenes. probably because sony ported this game using a scratched up disk copy of the game.

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#9 Blazed
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Man, that sucks. I really did want this game. Good lookin out TC.

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#10 MrCoolGuy420
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You can still download this game, I assure you that this didn't effect my gameplay one bit.

For 9.99 you can't beat that price, compared to what people are charging on ebay and amazon.com.

80.00 and up for a new copy of fatal frame 2 crimson butterfly. while fatal frame 1 & 3 are going for about 30.00 new, it's rediculous.

Not to mention if you also have to buy another playstation 2 console, just to play your game disk. just imagine how much all of that will cost over paying 9.99

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#11 MrCoolGuy420
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I bought fatal frame 1 & 2 from the PSN store for less than 20.00 and will be getting the third one when it hits the PSN in a couple of weeks. that's 30.00 for all 3 games the same price that you would be paying if you purchase fatal frame 1 or 3 from amazon.com I have to admit while these games have been ported using scratched up used games disks, they're still playable. I miss playing these games and since I sold my old 80.gb ps3 and all of my ps2 games as well I can no longer play via backwards compatibility so these ports are very affordable and convenient for me
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#12 RandoIphF
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[QUOTE="MrCoolGuy420"]I bought fatal frame 1 & 2 from the PSN store for less than 20.00 and will be getting the third one when it hits the PSN in a couple of weeks. that's 30.00 for all 3 games the same price that you would be paying if you purchase fatal frame 1 or 3 from amazon.com I have to admit while these games have been ported using scratched up used games disks, they're still playable. I miss playing these games and since I sold my old 80.gb ps3 and all of my ps2 games as well I can no longer play via backwards compatibility so these ports are very affordable and convenient for me

It's just Fatal Frame 2, and the emulation for it has apparently been busted since the PS3 backwards compatible fat boy systems that used software emulation instead of hardware. They put up a game they knew in advance was poorly emulated. Fatal Frame runs just fine, I have it as well, and Frame 3 will run fine because people with software emulation powered systems reported no issues when playing that game. A survival horror game relies heavily on tension and atmosphere, most times at the direct expense of actually having compelling gameplay. When pieces of that atmosphere are literally vanishing out of existence beneath your feet, the suspension of disbelief is shattered, and all you have left is a game with mediocre controls and not terribly memorable gameplay. I'm glad to hear later chapters are better, but this still remains that absolute worst of the four ways to play this game (PS2 hard copy, PS2 Digital, Original Xbox Directors Cut, and Wii version in Japan), and that really is a shame.
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#13 MonkeySpot
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So glad I have the entire series on disc... And I paid $2 per. Doing the math, I have $6 invested in the ENTIRE SERIES (in Western Release, that is), they all work perfectly...

:lol:

$10 for a DDL you won't be able to use anywhere but the PS3 it's loaded onto... Whatta SCAM...

:lol:

As PT Barnum used to say... (Google it)

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#14 worlock77
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As PT Barnum used to say... (Google it)

MonkeySpot

Yeah, he never said that. It was coined by a dude named David Hannum, who was backing a hoax of his own in competition with Barnum. Guess the quote applies here nonetheless.

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#15 Pffrbt
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You can still download this game, I assure you that this didn't effect my gameplay one bit.

MrCoolGuy420

That's nice since no one plays survival horror games for their gameplay.

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Just Cause 2 has issues.. I've downloaded it twice and it still gives a "disc error" despite it being a digital download.. frustrating.
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#17 Gxgear
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Still have my PS2 copies :)

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#18 KiriharaZro
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That sucks!!! why Tecmo dont give us a HD collection... damn!!! maybe is because Nintendo own the rights.
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#19 Pffrbt
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I wonder if I should buy it for PS2 or Xbox or wait and see if they fix this.

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#20 MonkeySpot
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I wonder if I should buy it for PS2 or Xbox or wait and see if they fix this.

Pffrbt

Because Sony is aware of the issue, they will most-likely get it resolved... However... You can pick up an old console and the entire series, play the games perfectly, and not deal with PSN horse-pucky (if they ever even bother to issue the other two in the PS3's lifetime, which is ticking down every day - And those DDLs will not transfer to the new hardware due to difference in hardware architecture & processing, without Sony seriously re-tooling the game for the PS4, which will be low-priority, if they do it at all), and be able to play them, lend them to friends, etc, as apposed to being stuck with playing them on PS3, then buying a new PS3 when the one you have now takes a dump...

Used PS2/Xbox - $50-$60, all games in series work FLAWLESSLY, which won't change. Also, other titles in the library which you know you'd take advantage of. ;)

Games in the "Frame" series - $5-$25 depending on your thrift and luck.

matched against:

Used PS3 - Won't be under $150 any time soon. Games may continue to be buggy, who knows for sure?

Game - $10

 

This is easy for me, because I never got rid of my hardware... Your mileage and interest may vary with my own. But I'm a serious Survival Horror game fan and "retro" console ownership is the only choice as I see it. Buggy (over-priced) digital-only ports, and shoddy HD re-works which alter the art and dependability of a title or franchise, are not an option.

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#22 KiriharaZro
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They remove it form the Store, i wonder if they refund to users who complain
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#23 Pffrbt
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Does Fatal Frame 2 work on the 360?

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#24 Threesixtyci
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I wonder if I should buy it for PS2 or Xbox or wait and see if they fix this.

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Xbox is the version to get, if you can find a copy. Or the Wii....
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#25 RandoIphF
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Does Fatal Frame 2 work on the 360?

Pffrbt
Yes, it is BC.
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#26 gamenerd15
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I thought Nintendo owned the rights to Fatal Frame now.  I guess Tecmo still owns the rights to the old games then.