killzone 2 controls!

isnt it amazing that before killzone 2 came out, the cod franchise had set the standard when it came to solid,fluid, responsive , nearly perfect controls. then killzone 2 is released with its sluggish,slow, delayful(hope thats a word) controls and now cod is weak all of a sudden. cmon people i know some of u want a ps3 exclusive that is great but dont convince yourself that this game is the way every game should be.

MORE REALISTIC, oh my bad, i must have missed firing those killzone guns at basic training.cLAssic_BLUE

Funny how some of you people NEED to complain about Something, ANYTHING.

I'm not a big FPS player (Bioshock, Half-Life 2 and Resistance so far this gen) and I've never ever tried a Call of Duty game.

I don't have a similar game I can compare it to, except Resistance being a good game.

My take on KillZone 2 controls : Great.

Funny how some of you people NEED to complain about Something, ANYTHING.

I'm not a big FPS player (Bioshock, Half-Life 2 and Resistance so far this gen) and I've never ever tried a Call of Duty game.

I don't have a similar game I can compare it to, except Resistance being a good game.

My take on KillZone 2 controls : Great.

Lets get a few things straight

controller lag in KZ2 does NOT equal "realism"

COD4/5 is NOT killzone ...both have pros and cons

i think the games fine it was exactly what ive been waiting for giving me reason to actually use the system ( my ps3 )instead of a media player. killzone rocks everything about it. i was blowin away watching that dropship come down in the begining and fly through the smoke and that smoke like interacted to it and swooshed i was like wholey *hit lol wow. And this was during gameplay... i aint ever seen that stuff before anyways i kinda got sidtract so yea how bout u stop whinning bout the controls get used to em like we do for every other game and enjoy it for what it is a kick *ss game with killer multiplayer!

It's kinda interesting how these things bother gamers so much these days. Back in the day if something was kinda not what you want it to be you learn to adapt. Sure there is a bit of a lag when you move, but so what? It doesn't break the game and lots of people have learned to adapt to it online. Look at all the people getting like 100-30 something kdr. It's not by frigging accident. sa10kun

[QUOTE="sa10kun"]It's kinda interesting how these things bother gamers so much these days. Back in the day if something was kinda not what you want it to be you learn to adapt. Sure there is a bit of a lag when you move, but so what? It doesn't break the game and lots of people have learned to adapt to it online. Look at all the people getting like 100-30 something kdr. It's not by frigging accident. americahellyeah

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="sa10kun"]It's kinda interesting how these things bother gamers so much these days. Back in the day if something was kinda not what you want it to be you learn to adapt. Sure there is a bit of a lag when you move, but so what? It doesn't break the game and lots of people have learned to adapt to it online. Look at all the people getting like 100-30 something kdr. It's not by frigging accident. psyum

psyum, You should really try the full game. The single player campaign has lots of great set pieces and the online is fun.

[QUOTE="psyum"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"] QFT... its like alot of people today expect all FPS to have identical feel/play style as COD... thats just messed up..sa10kun

psyum, You should really try the full game. The single player campaign has lots of great set pieces and the online is fun.

[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

[QUOTE="psyum"] thats why they are going for the 6th cod game :P i havent played the full game but yeah there is some lag on the demo and so what?? dont play it then, we wont miss youpsyum

psyum, You should really try the full game. The single player campaign has lots of great set pieces and the online is fun.

If you decide by then for some reason that you don't want it you should at least give it a rental. I'm short on cash now too so I rented it and will be buying it later.

Im a soldier in the swedish army and we're trained to make quick and clean shots and i can tell the killzone to issue is not realistic. A good soldier can aim so quickly compared to killzone

Im a soldier in the swedish army and we're trained to make quick and clean shots and i can tell the killzone to issue is not realistic. A good soldier can aim so quickly compared to killzone

[/QUOTE a good soldier wouldnt be plyin games :P no just kidding :P anyways i love the gme:D

well the demo at least

kz2 controls are just normal controls. theres nothing new or revolutionary about them.

cover system - gears has it.

aiming down sights - cod has it.

using joystick to move - everygame has it?

whats new? seriously.

im not dissing the game in any way just saying that i think its average fps. graphics are amazing but now what were talking about.

and u guys were talking about realism, why? i find it so boring and dumb for games to be realistic.

KZ2 for instance, the guns are shaky and very hard to manage while firing.

i personally play games for the zany unrealistic crap that happens.

what next? a game where i get to sip coffee and eat burnt toast then go to work? OOOO AAHHHH fun stuff.

kz2 controls are just normal controls. theres nothing new or revolutionary about them.

cover system - gears has it.

aiming down sights - cod has it.

using joystick to move - everygame has it?

whats new? seriously.

im not dissing the game in any way just saying that i think its average fps. graphics are amazing but now what were talking about.

and u guys were talking about realism, why? i find it so boring and dumb for games to be realistic.

KZ2 for instance, the guns are shaky and very hard to manage while firing.

i personally play games for the zany unrealistic crap that happens.

what next? a game where i get to sip coffee and eat burnt toast then go to work? OOOO AAHHHH fun stuff.

modestkraut1291

You act like gears is the first game to use cover and cod is the first to use sights. Haha.

The thing that is great about the game is the immersion and attention to detail. The guns feel meaty and the firefights are intense. Realism isn't a good way to describe the game. Like the developers said its a kind of hollywood realism. People kind of want everything to feel like cod. If they can just get over the slight lag they'll see what is so great about the game.

[QUOTE="modestkraut1291"]

kz2 controls are just normal controls. theres nothing new or revolutionary about them.

cover system - gears has it.

aiming down sights - cod has it.

using joystick to move - everygame has it?

whats new? seriously.

im not dissing the game in any way just saying that i think its average fps. graphics are amazing but now what were talking about.

and u guys were talking about realism, why? i find it so boring and dumb for games to be realistic.

KZ2 for instance, the guns are shaky and very hard to manage while firing.

i personally play games for the zany unrealistic crap that happens.

what next? a game where i get to sip coffee and eat burnt toast then go to work? OOOO AAHHHH fun stuff.

sa10kun

Sorry, but in real life, foot soldier guns are not meaty. they are light and generally have a pretty manageable kick. please do research. The only real kick that caused me to go crazy like the kick in KZ2 were weapons that i shoulder mounted that should have been on tripods like 50cal.

You act like gears is the first game to use cover and cod is the first to use sights. Haha.

The thing that is great about the game is the immersion and attention to detail. The guns feel meaty and the firefights are intense. Realism isn't a good way to describe the game. Like the developers said its a kind of hollywood realism. People kind of want everything to feel like cod. If they can just get over the slight lag they'll see what is so great about the game.

Oh no these threads aren't overflowing from the KZ2 forum are they?KG86

actually, this one is unique. Some one is trying to compare KZ2 delay to real life.

posting this on a broad forum like this is perfect fodder for ownage.

[QUOTE="KG86"]Oh no these threads aren't overflowing from the KZ2 forum are they?PhysicsLCP

actually, this one is unique. Some one is trying to compare KZ2 delay to real life.

posting this on a broad forum like this is perfect fodder for ownage.

I think he was talking about how the mods have been locking all the kz2 threads since there is a sticky.

I wasn't calling the lag their way of being realistic. I was just kinda saying that the game is still very playable and great.

Hey guess what!

You can change both the X and y axis sensitivity. It helps.

isnt it amazing that before killzone 2 came out, the cod franchise had set the standard when it came to solid,fluid, responsive , nearly perfect controls. then killzone 2 is released with its sluggish,slow, delayful(hope thats a word) controls and now cod is weak all of a sudden. cmon people i know some of u want a ps3 exclusive that is great but dont convince yourself that this game is the way every game should be.

cLAssic_BLUE

hate to break it too you buddy but controls dont make the game great

[QUOTE="modestkraut1291"]

kz2 controls are just normal controls. theres nothing new or revolutionary about them.

cover system - gears has it.

aiming down sights - cod has it.

using joystick to move - everygame has it?

whats new? seriously.

im not dissing the game in any way just saying that i think its average fps. graphics are amazing but now what were talking about.

and u guys were talking about realism, why? i find it so boring and dumb for games to be realistic.

KZ2 for instance, the guns are shaky and very hard to manage while firing.

i personally play games for the zany unrealistic crap that happens.

what next? a game where i get to sip coffee and eat burnt toast then go to work? OOOO AAHHHH fun stuff.

sa10kun

You act like gears is the first game to use cover and cod is the first to use sights. Haha.

The thing that is great about the game is the immersion and attention to detail. The guns feel meaty and the firefights are intense. Realism isn't a good way to describe the game. Like the developers said its a kind of hollywood realism. People kind of want everything to feel like cod. If they can just get over the slight lag they'll see what is so great about the game.

I've never heard anyone say anything about CoD controls vs KZ 2 till now.

more realistic, hmmmm... i'm sure that we all have been in combat and actually know what its like to shot and be shot by weapons that can kill you

Off course the lag isn´t realistic, and in real life i thinkwe can turn and aim faster than in the game even when carrying that kinda wait but at least the running and jumping mechanic do feelsrealistic and as if you were carrying quite some weight, which in real life you´d probably do............and to all those who are trying to compare the game´s shootingto real life shooting and do have shooting experience, cause i personally don´t, let me just ask:

In real life when you shoot a rifle it does have RECOIL right? and the weapon does SHAKE right? and that actually makes it harder to aim in longer bursts of fire rather than short bursts because of the recoil right?

I mean please answer these questions.............cause it´s obvious the lag isn´t realistic but as far as the heavy feeling while moving and the recoil goes, it does seem much MORE REALISTIC to me than the other fps I´ve played. (Never played COD before, but played resistance 1 & 2, and many shooters for the ps2 including timesplitters, medal of honor andsome other ones).

And please don´t try to compare the game with real war, that´s just dumb, real war isn´t fun, it´s just full of despair and pain so just keep it to the emulation of shooting part please.

Honestly I really, really want to like Killzone 2. But it just isn't fun to me.....all of the multiplayer functions, and a great single player game are kinda put to waste because of how badly this game controls. I don't care what anyone says, right now the game isn't fun. I'm not saying I want COD4 controls. Other FPS games that have come out like FEAR2, HAZE, and even the Rainbow Six games all still feel like a shooter. It isn't a terrible, terrible pain to actually aim on someone. This game though...........idk......I picked it up on Friday and was really excited but now I'm just kinda "ehhhh" The fact that I even have to worry about whether the controls are good or bad really says something about the game. I think this game will fall exactly the way the original Killzone did. A select few will swear by it, and everyone else will run away as soon as COD6 comes out this fall.

Yup, the controls are slower and meatier. I like them. Same way as I like the CoD controls when I'm playing that.

Dunno about everyone else, but I don't really want all games to control the same.

isnt it amazing that before killzone 2 came out, the cod franchise had set the standard when it came to solid,fluid, responsive , nearly perfect controls. then killzone 2 is released with its sluggish,slow, delayful(hope thats a word) controls and now cod is weak all of a sudden. cmon people i know some of u want a ps3 exclusive that is great but dont convince yourself that this game is the way every game should be.

cLAssic_BLUE

Honestly I really, really want to like Killzone 2. But it just isn't fun to me.....all of the multiplayer functions, and a great single player game are kinda put to waste because of how badly this game controls. I don't care what anyone says, right now the game isn't fun. I'm not saying I want COD4 controls. Other FPS games that have come out like FEAR2, HAZE, and even the Rainbow Six games all still feel like a shooter. It isn't a terrible, terrible pain to actually aim on someone. This game though...........idk......I picked it up on Friday and was really excited but now I'm just kinda "ehhhh" The fact that I even have to worry about whether the controls are good or bad really says something about the game. I think this game will fall exactly the way the original Killzone did. A select few will swear by it, and everyone else will run away as soon as COD6 comes out this fall.

jev55_basic

[QUOTE="sa10kun"][QUOTE="modestkraut1291"]

kz2 controls are just normal controls. theres nothing new or revolutionary about them.

cover system - gears has it.

aiming down sights - cod has it.

using joystick to move - everygame has it?

whats new? seriously.

im not dissing the game in any way just saying that i think its average fps. graphics are amazing but now what were talking about.

and u guys were talking about realism, why? i find it so boring and dumb for games to be realistic.

KZ2 for instance, the guns are shaky and very hard to manage while firing.

i personally play games for the zany unrealistic crap that happens.

what next? a game where i get to sip coffee and eat burnt toast then go to work? OOOO AAHHHH fun stuff.

scottiescott238

You act like gears is the first game to use cover and cod is the first to use sights. Haha.

The thing that is great about the game is the immersion and attention to detail. The guns feel meaty and the firefights are intense. Realism isn't a good way to describe the game. Like the developers said its a kind of hollywood realism. People kind of want everything to feel like cod. If they can just get over the slight lag they'll see what is so great about the game.

Yea but I wasn't making the argument that gears didn't do it well. I was just disagreeing with the guy that said gears did it first. He made really stupid arguments to say that the game isn't anything new.

uses cover-gears did it first(haha)

uses sights-cod did it first(lol)

uses joystick to move(wtf?!)

He had really lame arguments.