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#1 SmokenAshes
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Make a game where you have 40 players ONLINE blasting the heck out of eachother and not have a single dip in FPS. Even thoughout the entire campaign you do not have a single dip in FPS. But yet EA can't make a football game with solid FPS ...let alone 60 FPS. They say PS3 is hard to develop for? If so how the heck did Insomniac get it right for a launch title?!? EA has had what a year or a 2 on this system's hardware? WTF gives?
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#2 dstryr13
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its called laziness
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#3 rptransam09
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yup
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#4 Thomas-Crown
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Well, Insomniac is a better developer than EA.
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#5 -Sniper99-
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its called lazinessdstryr13
The Truth
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#6 AIH_PSP
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Cause EA is lazy as well as Ubisoft.
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#7 sammyjenkis898
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Well, Insomniac is a better developer than EA. Thomas-Crown
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#8 rogerjak
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Lazy devs.nothing more, nothing less.
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#9 Theibault
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Less time coding = quicker game to release= more profits. I refuse to buy Madden.
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#10 sgallag_play
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Insomniac Games was the only game developer to be in the top Ten best places to work for.

I don't want to think what working for EA is like

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#11 Krigon
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Insomniac Games was the only game developer to be in the top Ten best places to work for.

I don't want to think what working for EA is like

sgallag_play

Well it was the Top Ten Best Small Company to work on. They should be proud of that but EA isn't a small company.

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#12 Shinedown220
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Lazy devs.nothing more, nothing less.rogerjak

Exactly pure and simple

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#13 aaron6581230
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It's EA, what do you expect. When was the last time they had an AAA title?
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#14 SmokenAshes
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Google should become video game developers. Weren't they considered the best place to work?
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#15 jimm895
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It may because that being a small company they had no problem asking Sony for some help from there developer teams with the games. On the other hand the bigger company has there heads so far in the clouds that they think they don't need any kind of help.
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#16 azimiballer
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insomniac know what theyre doing and can do jobs rite.
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#17 SmokenAshes
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Well I live in SoCal and I know where EA is in LA. Anyone wanna go on a strike outside of their offices with me? LOL j/k
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#18 Shaqneel
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its called lazinessdstryr13
That and insomniac is really a first party studio. It's independent but it's funded by sony, so it focuses specifically on playstation consoles, the ps3 more now. Hence, it will produce better games because it's focused on the ps3 and in a sense was given proper teaching by sony.
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#19 coolasj19
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Cause EA is lazy as well as Ubisoft.AIH_PSP
ubisoft may not be the case. from Assassins Creed to the powerful story of HAZE ubisoft is the best big huge hird party publisher.
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#20 Symphonycometh
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There are theories I suppose. Mine is simple:

Money=different response every time this gen.

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#21 iMacBot
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its called lazinessdstryr13

Totally agree!

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#22 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="dstryr13"]its called lazinessShaqneel
That and insomniac is really a first party studio. It's independent but it's funded by sony, so it focuses specifically on playstation consoles, the ps3 more now. Hence, it will produce better games because it's focused on the ps3 and in a sense was given proper teaching by sony.

So are you saying that if EA also receives proper teaching from the console's maker they can also make their games work normally on it? Even though they probably have 10-20 times more devs than insomniac?In the end they are just lazy.

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#23 SmokenAshes
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The Making of Madden 08 scenario.... ****Bald tubby guy walksover to a developer leaning back in his leather chair chewing down on a burrito. "Whats up dude, man...TJ was crazy." "I know dudeI didn't think I would still be alive after drinking that much. And that donkey...nvm lets not go there." "I know I still have nightmares about it, but I just can't look away from it...just wierd" "Yeah I know" says the developer. Bald guy looks at the computer monitor "By the way did you get the coding done for Madden 08?" "Yeah its around here somewhere, I'll send it to you by COB" "Aight laters dude." As baldy walks away the developer pulls up the coding of Madden 07, highlights it and hits ctrl+c and then hits ctrl+v in the Madden 08 window. Types in a few different lines of coding and sends it on up to the next guy.****
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#24 deactivated-5e7d3c08ed601
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Well, Insomniac is a better developer than EA. Thomas-Crown
quoted for truth
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#25 live4thepackers
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insomniac cares, ea doesnt. and besides ea only has to make it good on 1 system (xbox 360) to make millions
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Make a game where you have 40 players ONLINE blasting the heck out of eachother and not have a single dip in FPS. Even thoughout the entire campaign you do not have a single dip in FPS. But yet EA can't make a football game with solid FPS ...let alone 60 FPS. They say PS3 is hard to develop for? If so how the heck did Insomniac get it right for a launch title?!? EA has had what a year or a 2 on this system's hardware? WTF gives? SmokenAshes

Resistance in HD at some points is one of the best looking games you will ever see to this date. A lot of people talk about how resistance's graphics don't look all that great, well they obviously aren't looking at it in HD. The framerate is perfect but I think the best looking thing is when the glass cracks after shooting it, I don't think anyone can disagree that its the most realistic looking thing in any video game.

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#27 fridayguy
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i remember madden 2000 and 2001. oh, and 2005, were probably the best maddens ever created.

oh and as for most game deveopers wanting money,... rockstar .... delay ... ea.... a great football ffranchise that is slowly dying off, money makes the world go round.. as long as we buy it, they will continue to make bad games.

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#28 navigata
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Money makes the world go round' fellas. Some devs have real big egos and think they are great ala EA and thinkthat if they putout a game it will be instantly greatbut others actually care about making quality games that ppl will enjoy aka Insomniac and Infinity Ward.

Oh yea, laziness...yea its in there somewhere...

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#29 c0mplex
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you tend to care more about the PS3 when Sony gives you money.
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#30 a-tek
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its called lazinessdstryr13
Most quotable quote on the subject of EA. Laziness.
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#31 TriangleHard
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its called lazinessdstryr13

I don't think it is laziness.

I think it is just case of being incompetent

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#32 junk56
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because insomniac is full of talented developers. places like ea and ubisoft is where people can't think for themselves and make games for money. developers like insomniac, naughty dog, bioware, starbreeze, media molecule are all talented developers that can create games from scratch without having to steal ideas from others. those are developers i'd buy from for sure because talent > business
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#33 gamenux
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Make a game where you have 40 players ONLINE blasting the heck out of eachother and not have a single dip in FPS. Even thoughout the entire campaign you do not have a single dip in FPS. But yet EA can't make a football game with solid FPS ...let alone 60 FPS. They say PS3 is hard to develop for? If so how the heck did Insomniac get it right for a launch title?!? EA has had what a year or a 2 on this system's hardware? WTF gives? SmokenAshes

I put RFOM online over a wireless ethernet and no drp in fps. Smooth as butter so far.

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#34 c0mplex
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lets not forget that Insomniac has had the Playstation Edge program tools since day 1. third party devs only got their hands on it after GDC07.

if the PS Edge tools really help out on understanding the complexities of the PS3's hardware... i would say that the ones to blame for the boatloads of crappy PS3 ports would be Sony themselves.

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#35 kenshinhimura16
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Easy, EA is just like the studio that makes a movie based game. They need it fast, quickly, at low budget, on all the consoles and NOW. The results, go and see them. As with movie games, EA wants to cash as much as they want, and they know that most of their titles will sell even if they are crap. Its like some callcenters or services, were they treat clients bad. Since they know they will get new clients, or that what they have is necessary (updated teams in sports games and such) they know clients will return or will be replaced so they dont give a damn about you, me or anybody. $$$ is all that they see. Unlicke other companies that know that to increase the $$$ they need to treat you weel and give you nice experiences so that you may work for them (by speaking well of their stuff and such, I cant figure a word in english at the moment to say it better).
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#36 Takiwara
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i remember madden 2000 and 2001. oh, and 2005, were probably the best maddens ever created.

oh and as for most game deveopers wanting money,... rockstar .... delay ... ea.... a great football ffranchise that is slowly dying off, money makes the world go round.. as long as we buy it, they will continue to make bad games.

fridayguy
Finally someone agrees that madden 2005 was the last madden that was actually good :P
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#37 laryjajou
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google cant become a game maker because google is mainly used for research and school thats y it has the biggest engine

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#38 EMERlCa6969
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EA is just really lazy. Infinity Ward and Insomniac are treating the PS3 right though. COD4 will run at 60fps with full AA just like 360. Also, why do people buy Madden games? What happend to going outside and playing the sports with your friends, or have gamers gotten lazy too?
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#39 5FingersOfDeath
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[QUOTE="dstryr13"]its called lazinessTriangleHard

I don't think it is laziness.

I think it is just case of being incompetent


incompetent, thank you, that's the word I'm looking for.
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#40 thefoolagain200
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[QUOTE="dstryr13"]its called laziness-Sniper99-
The Truth

so true
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#41 b11051973
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It's because the game is on like 10 systems. They've been working on the 360 for a couple years and have it figured out. I gaurantee it will be 60 fps on the PS3 next year.
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#42 snipe2004
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EA should learn from http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/08/14/call-of-duty-4-on-the-ps3-run-at-60fps-with-full-aa/

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#43 SmokenAshes
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EA should learn from http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/08/14/call-of-duty-4-on-the-ps3-run-at-60fps-with-full-aa/

snipe2004

EA needs to go back to school period.

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#44 Gamerzk
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insomniac cares, ea doesnt. and besides ea only has to make it good on 1 system (xbox 360) to make millionslive4thepackers

EA doesn't even have to make it good on any console for it to sell millions.

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#45 00Raziel00
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Pure lazyness