don't play MGS 4 if you......

i will just tell you what in my mind

i suggest that anyone that has't played mgs from 1 until 3

don't play 4 i mean don't just get it because it got 10

you will say no it's bad why because you did't play it from 1

if you play 1 you will find 2 great and if you play2 you will find 3 amazing

and if you play 1.2 and 3 you will find 4 perfect

that's mean you love mgs from the beginning

and you will definitely love 4

well that's my point

am i right

hey you forgot MGS POs

yeha man to get teh feel of MGS play the very first 2 on the NES and then move on to MGS 1,2,3, POs, 4 or if you want to play the real way play it in this order

MGS 3, POs, Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Soild Snake, MGS 1, MGS 2, MGS 4

Boo HIckey!

YOu can read up on the series and get the jist of it. But if y ou want to play an earlier version you only neeed to play one of them and then you have the swing of it.

mgs4 has a good fanbase,

but kojima does a good job keeping you in the loop in nubmer 4 if u hadnt played anything...i suggest everyone to buy this game if u know what ur getting into

..umm, who are you?

Hi, welcome back to the real world where you can't dictate people's opinions. You're nobody on a message board thinking your word is absolute. Stop pretending like you matter and people care what you have to say.

i will just tell you what in my mind

i suggest that anyone that has't played mgs from 1 until 3

don't play 4 i mean don't just get it because it got 10

you will say no it's bad why because you did't play it from 1

if you play 1 you will find 2 great and if you play2 you will find 3 amazing

and if you play 1.2 and 3 you will find 4 perfect

that's mean you love mgs from the beginning

and you will definitely love 4

well that's my point

am i right

kakaroot

Well considering they do a lot of flashbacks and semi explanations of the past events that lead up to MGS4, I think I would have to disagree with your "run on paragraph" that I sort of didn't even really understand.

..umm, who are you?

Hi, welcome back to the real world where you can't dictate people's opinions. You're nobody on a message board thinking your word is absolute. Stop pretending like you matter and people care what you have to say.

Denji

dayum burn...But yeah Denjis right bro.

Also TC I find your reasoning a little off. Sure it's better to go into MGS4 with prior knowledge of the series, but if you actually know the series very well then you will really see just how imperfect MGS4 truly is. Mainly in the story department with all of its inconsistencies. MGS4 was filled with retcons, plot holes, over-connectivity and way too much fan service. Things that you wouldn't actually know if you haven't been a hardcore fan over the years. Even certain aspects of the game itself took a step back from what the previous titles established. Not really surprising as the series started doing this with MGS3. Really though if you knew the ins and outs of the MGS universe, then its like this. MGS3 was like Kojima shot you the bird. Portable Ops was a slap in the face. Then MGS4 came along and kicked you in the nuts.

I still absolutely love all the games, but you're a little off with your thinking there bud

[QUOTE="Denji"]

..umm, who are you?

Hi, welcome back to the real world where you can't dictate people's opinions. You're nobody on a message board thinking your word is absolute. Stop pretending like you matter and people care what you have to say.

treelog82

dayum burn...But yeah Denjis right bro.

Also TC I find your reasoning a little off. Sure it's better to go into MGS4 with prior knowledge of the series, but if you actually know the series very well then you will really see just how imperfect MGS4 truly is. Mainly in the story department with all of its inconsistencies. MGS4 was filled with retcons, plot holes, over-connectivity and way too much fan service. Things that you wouldn't actually know if you haven't been a hardcore fan over the years. Even certain aspects of the game itself took a step back from what the previous titles established. Not really surprising as the series started doing this with MGS3. Really though if you knew the ins and outs of the MGS universe, then its like this. MGS3 was like Kojima shot you the bird. Portable Ops was a slap in the face. Then MGS4 came along and kicked you in the nuts.

I still absolutely love all the games, but you're a little off with your thinking there bud

Actually, the way I see it. MGS4 is nothing but fan service. It's meant to tie in all the loose ends and have everything answered. MGS4 was a response to the fanbase demand. I'm fine with the story, but the who Naomi thing offing herself I felt was kind of pointless.

i will just tell you what in my mind

i suggest that anyone that has't played mgs from 1 until 3

don't play 4 i mean don't just get it because it got 10

you will say no it's bad why because you did't play it from 1

if you play 1 you will find 2 great and if you play2 you will find 3 amazing

and if you play 1.2 and 3 you will find 4 perfect

that's mean you love mgs from the beginning

and you will definitely love 4

well that's my point

am i right

kakaroot

In other words, don't bother playing MGS4 just because it received a 10. Play MGS 1-3 first because you will get greater enjoyment from all 4 MGS games because of it's deep story.

I have all 4 of them but I don't plan on playing any of them until the end of the year. :D

[QUOTE="treelog82"][QUOTE="Denji"]

..umm, who are you?

Hi, welcome back to the real world where you can't dictate people's opinions. You're nobody on a message board thinking your word is absolute. Stop pretending like you matter and people care what you have to say.

Denji

dayum burn...But yeah Denjis right bro.

Also TC I find your reasoning a little off. Sure it's better to go into MGS4 with prior knowledge of the series, but if you actually know the series very well then you will really see just how imperfect MGS4 truly is. Mainly in the story department with all of its inconsistencies. MGS4 was filled with retcons, plot holes, over-connectivity and way too much fan service. Things that you wouldn't actually know if you haven't been a hardcore fan over the years. Even certain aspects of the game itself took a step back from what the previous titles established. Not really surprising as the series started doing this with MGS3. Really though if you knew the ins and outs of the MGS universe, then its like this. MGS3 was like Kojima shot you the bird. Portable Ops was a slap in the face. Then MGS4 came along and kicked you in the nuts.

I still absolutely love all the games, but you're a little off with your thinking there bud

Actually, the way I see it. MGS4 is nothing but fan service. It's meant to tie in all the loose ends and have everything answered. MGS4 was a response to the fanbase demand. I'm fine with the story, but the who Naomi thing offing herself I felt was kind of pointless.

Yeah granted MGS3 and MGS4 are still some of my fav games of all time, I still think Kojima should have quit after MGS2 like he wanted, and come back when hes ready. Hes voiced so many times over the years how sick he is of making MGS and it shows in his work. The games were great, but you know they could have been better. He even mentioned in an interview with Famitsu shortly before 4's release that his biggest worry was that the hardcore fans would enjoy the game and want more. That's pretty sad. That said, they did do a decent job rapping up such a complex series.

As for Naomi, yeah I could have done without that along with many other ass backwards things they did, but whatever. I just hope that if and when a new MG series comes around, they find a director that is passionate about making the games and not just doing it out of fan demand.

the problem is if you play all the previous games before msg4 you'll be so burned out.

i want to get my big boss emblem but i can't even get to the little robot dude, unless i crawled all the way there or something but that would take forever :(

the problem is if you play all the previous games before msg4 you'll be so burned out.

i want to get my big boss emblem but i can't even get to the little robot dude, unless i crawled all the way there or something but that would take forever :(

machiavell8x8

The only other game this Generation that I can honestly say that was on par with the storytelling and the visuals in MGS4 that I have played was Gears of War and considering the huge difference in release dates MGS4 is really one of the most awesome games I have ever played in my life, regardless of how many Metal Gears I have played.ThaDirtySouth

"MGS3 was like Kojima shot you the bird."

That's the biggest lie I've heard in my life. MGS3 was the best game I've ever played.

More on topic, why do you get to decide whether or not people get to play a game or not? Why can't I just decide that If you never played the origional Final Fantasy, you can't play any of the other FF games? Is it because I'm not dictator of the world...?

YES!

a good friend of mine tried to get into the story but he really couldnt.

he likes action games so he played it that way, had a much harder time but because its so versatile its totally possible to go rambo like its cod4. hes not all about thinking toooo much and being super stealthy (i like that)

but at the end, he agrees that its a very good game, the graphics were amazing, and the only complaint was the cut scenes.

but he wants to get resistance 2 due to all of the hype so returned mgs4 last week (he bought it the week it was released) and picked up RFOM. i never played that so i'm over his house playing the co-op mode through the game with him and i must say, this game ROCKS, i think GameInformers 9.5 score was correct. and the online is incredible intense. wow.