Do any PS3 games actually run at 1080p?

I'm FINALLY getting my new HD TV after a year of owning a PS3 and playing in blurry vision on my old tube TV. I've found 2 Toshiba TV's both pretty much the same, except one is full HD and one is not. I still don't fully understand all this HD TV stuff... but I do know the price is £100 more.

This is the cheaper one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-32AV615DB-32-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B0020HR6QM/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2PS7RG1RZRFM2&colid=54YQMI8L9VQQ

And this is the Full HD one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-32RV635DB-32-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B001TUYQ46/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3EQJTBZYGQD6P&colid=54YQMI8L9VQQ

Will the cheaper one only go up to 720i or will it go up to 1080 interlaced and just not progresive? More to the point, after looking at the back of all my Blu Ray cases, all my games only support 720i... including my most recent game Prototype.

What do you guys think?

Im getting a Full High Def in like a week and i cant wait to play my PS3 on it! and yes there are 1080p games - although the only one i have is Call of Duty 4 lol

Im getting a Full High Def in like a week and i cant wait to play my PS3 on it! and yes there are 1080p games - although the only one i have is Call of Duty 4 lol

spyd3r108

most of the ps3 games dont go all the way to 1080p,mainly the multiplatform games , but the ps3 exclosive games mostly run at 1080p

as for the TV's a.there is no 720i resolotion

b.1080i is not as sharp as p since i only prosses half of the screen evry run the picture can look like its rumbling (at least it looks like that on my screen which is 1200p) i wuld get the Full HD version since it is way better its contrast is 50k:1 and the cheaper's is 18K:1 and the res is much higher if u want to getthe most out of ur ps3 go with the full hd tv ull get much more then just 1080P res with it its worth the money

If u really wana good quality get Full HD, and btw there is no 720i, there is: 480i= sucks like nothing als. 480p= its not that good but its ok for some ppl. 720p= now we start talking that's awesome and the best of the best 1080P. So the most of game allmost all games go form 720P to 1080P and that's amazing resolution, btw if i was u i will deffinelty buy Full HD, but that's just me. :)

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Im getting a Full High Def in like a week and i cant wait to play my PS3 on it! and yes there are 1080p games - although the only one i have is Call of Duty 4 lol

spyd3r108

Sorry got interlaced and progressive the wrong way round.. I am awear interlaced is better than progressive. Just still learning the termonology. So is the maximum res for the cheaper version only 720p? I think I will go Full HD. Just curious if the cheaper version goes up to 1080p... I'm not that worried about the image being interlaced so long as the resolution is higher.ultralesus

Progressive is accually better than interlaced. The cheaper TV only supports 720p. Go with the full HD to get the most out of Blue Ray. As for games which run 1080p there are a few like NBA The Inside, GT.

well i have no idea what im talking about...but, wasnt metal gear solid 4 1080p? and gran turismo prologue? and isnt gow3 going to be 1080p? i swear ive played a lot of games in 1080p i dunno maybe im crazy but when ever i switch my tv input it tells me what res im in and half the times most exclusives are 1080p as i recall. unless they are being forced that size by my tv who knows once again im guessing.

huh . . . thats weird - on the back of my CoD case it says 1080p but is it because I have the GotY edition?

Link

oh yah tv wise.... 1080p is a must for its all the difference.

The only legitimately 1080p games I can think of are Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7. GT5P is close but it's not 1920x1080 - it's 1280x1080, and just stretched to fill 1920 pixels wide. They also remove a lot of the anti-aliasing in order to keep the performance from nosediving at that resolution. A surprising number of PS3 (and 360) games aren't even running at 1280x720, and a few multiplatform titles run at even lower resolutions on the PS3 - Ghostbusters was particularly bad, and only a couple of notches above SD resolutions. Yet the only way to tell is to check online, as as far as the companies are concerned if it's upscaled to 1080p, it's 1080p. Of course, by that logic any old DVD playing back on the PS3 is 1080p if you're using an HDMI cable, which is ridiculous. [QUOTE="spyd3r108"]

Im getting a Full High Def in like a week and i cant wait to play my PS3 on it! and yes there are 1080p games - although the only one i have is Call of Duty 4 lol

DJ_Lae

Now thats interesting. I remember 2 years ago when the HD buzz first kicked off, people said the 360 sucked because it didn't support 'full HD' yet most games apprently don't support it even now. If what you said is true, then getting a full HD would be over-kill.

As for the Blu Ray thing... from what I've read, due to the way most movies are shot using HD cam's and encoded to the disc, then read by the player there is very little difference in 1080i and 1080p...

Got to say guys, I'm loving this topic... It's interesting to find out of this technically stuff.

huh . . . thats weird - on the back of my CoD case it says 1080p but is it because I have the GotY edition?

spyd3r108

The supported resolution on the box only means that it upscales to 1080p, not that it renders at 1080p.

I have a Samsung LE32 which only runs at 720 but it's still awesome. I read on a tech site that if the screen isn't bigger than 40inches the human eye can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080.

Now thats interesting. I remember 2 years ago when the HD buzz first kicked off, people said the 360 sucked because it didn't support 'full HD' yet most games apprently don't support it even now. If what you said is true, then getting a full HD would be over-kill.

As for the Blu Ray thing... from what I've read, due to the way most movies are shot using HD cam's and encoded to the disc, then read by the player there is very little difference in 1080i and 1080p...

Got to say guys, I'm loving this topic... It's interesting to find out of this technically stuff.

ultralesus

Here's the thread where a bunch of guys keep track of this (remarkably geeky) stuff:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

It's especially interesting because Microsoft touted full HD (720P in their case) requirements for their games anda lotof them are getting by with upscaled resolutions. Sony claimed 1080p games when they launched, and almost none of them are actually 1080p.

It becomes annoying when even the boxes can't be trusted, as they simply say the upscaled resolutions and expect people to take them at face value. If Blu-rays did the same thing when listing 1920x1080 resolution movies there would be far more people complaining.

I mean, I don't have a problem with games running at lower resolutions, but I wish they'd be a bit more honest about it.

ive got a sony bravia W4000 40" everything is beautiful:)

@ DJ_Lae

Sweet. Thanks for the link. Interesting stuff.

I have a Samsung LE32 which only runs at 720 but it's still awesome. I read on a tech site that if the screen isn't bigger than 40inches the human eye can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080.

CraigyM83

The visible improvement has more to do with viewing distance than size.

Just bought myself a Full HDTV from Samsung for about €440. Man, what an improvement :D I always thought you didnt rly need a HDTV, that it wasnt rly nescesary, but now that I have one... I just wouldnt want to play without it :P

If you want games on 1080 get the XBOX-360.Most of the games on the PS3 run on 720.The Prototype on the XBOX-360 it can play on 1080 and all the games on the XBOX can be play on the 1080i or 1080p.The PS3 is a weak system the XBOX is more powerful system and all the games look better.That is why i like more my XBOX.Panosola

Fat Princess. :D

[QUOTE="Panosola"]If you want games on 1080 get the XBOX-360.Most of the games on the PS3 run on 720.The Prototype on the XBOX-360 it can play on 1080 and all the games on the XBOX can be play on the 1080i or 1080p.The PS3 is a weak system the XBOX is more powerful system and all the games look better.That is why i like more my XBOX.ultralesus

Triangle Setup

Xbox 360 - 500 Million Triangles/sec
PS3 - 250 Million Triangles/sec

Vertex Shader Processing
Xbox 360 - 6.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 2.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 16 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.5 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 12 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 8 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec

Vertex Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Texels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing with 16 Filtered Texels Per Cycle (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing without Textures (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Multisample Fill Rate
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz)
PS3 - 8.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz)

Pixel Fill Rate with 4x Multisampled Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
PS3 - 2.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz / 4)

Pixel Fill Rate without Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)

Frame Buffer Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 256.0 GB/sec (dedicated for frame buffer rendering)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with other graphics data: textures and vertices)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)

Texture/Vert Memory Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 22.4 GB/sec (shared with CPU)
Xbox 360 - 14.4 GB/sec (with 8.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
Xbox 360 - 12.4 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with frame buffer)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)

Shader Model
Xbox 360 - Shader Model 3.0 / Unified Shader Architecture
PS3 - Shader Model 3.0 / Discrete Shader Architecture

XBOX360 has better graphics with smoother frame rate and this is natural, because it has better graphics card.
PS3 has only a stronger CPU but the graphics doesn't depend much in the power of CPU rather than the power of GPU.
Just think about, when you see on your PC than a game doesn't run normally, what upgrade is more preferable? What will you change? It's CPU for a stronger one, ore the GPU? Will you change the 2-core CPU for a 4-core for example, or the graphics card?
The answer is obvious.

The XBOX-360 is the best and the most powerful system.The END.

Im getting a Full High Def in like a week and i cant wait to play my PS3 on it! and yes there are 1080p games - although the only one i have is Call of Duty 4 lol

spyd3r108

Ironically, I just got a 40' toshiba LCD 1080p from bestbuy last weekf(Stunning...that's all I can say)I'm not sure which PS3 games run 1080p, but just as someone else said go with the 1080p(future proof) I got the 40RV52R...which model are you looking to get???

Ironically, I just got a 40' toshiba LCD 1080p from bestbuy last weekf(Stunning...that's all I can say)I'm not sure which PS3 games run 1080p, but just as someone else said go with the 1080p(future proof) I got the 40RV52R...which model are you looking to get???

MarcRecon

If you want games on 1080 get the XBOX-360.Most of the games on the PS3 run on 720.The Prototype on the XBOX-360 it can play on 1080 and all the games on the XBOX can be play on the 1080i or 1080p.The PS3 is a weak system the XBOX is more powerful system and all the games look better.That is why i like more my XBOX.Panosola

lol...give it a break dude:lol: this is not SW. If you be nice....I'll give you a cookie:)

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]If you want games on 1080 get the XBOX-360.Most of the games on the PS3 run on 720.The Prototype on the XBOX-360 it can play on 1080 and all the games on the XBOX can be play on the 1080i or 1080p.The PS3 is a weak system the XBOX is more powerful system and all the games look better.That is why i like more my XBOX.Panosola

lol...give it a break dude:lol: this is not SW. If you be nice....I'll give you a cookie:)

lol....as I said before "TIGER" this "ISN'T" SW.lol...and why should I be afraid of truth, I ALWAYS welcome it...and by the way check my profile, I'm a 360 owner also.lol

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]If you want games on 1080 get the XBOX-360.Most of the games on the PS3 run on 720.The Prototype on the XBOX-360 it can play on 1080 and all the games on the XBOX can be play on the 1080i or 1080p.The PS3 is a weak system the XBOX is more powerful system and all the games look better.That is why i like more my XBOX.Panosola

lol...give it a break dude:lol: this is not SW. If you be nice....I'll give you a cookie:)

It's just a simple question and I'm just curious, if you support Xbox 360 that much, why are you here ? It's only question. Not saying you can't be here or anything. I just want to know. :)

[QUOTE="Panosola"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

lol...give it a break dude:lol: this is not SW. If you be nice....I'll give you a cookie:)

MrGanny

It's just a simple question and I'm just curious, if you support Xbox 360 that much, why are you here ? It's only question. Not saying you can't be here or anything. I just want to know. :)

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

Ironically, I just got a 40' toshiba LCD 1080p from bestbuy last weekf(Stunning...that's all I can say)I'm not sure which PS3 games run 1080p, but just as someone else said go with the 1080p(future proof) I got the 40RV52R...which model are you looking to get???

ultralesus

It's almost Identical to mine, go to bestbuy's website and read the reviews..75 out of 86 where positive.The only flaw with it is the sound quality(which can be corrected with a sound system)but the picture quality is breath taking.

[QUOTE="ultralesus"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

Ironically, I just got a 40' toshiba LCD 1080p from bestbuy last weekf(Stunning...that's all I can say)I'm not sure which PS3 games run 1080p, but just as someone else said go with the 1080p(future proof) I got the 40RV52R...which model are you looking to get???

MarcRecon

It's almost Identical to mine, go to bestbuy's website and read the reviews..75 out of 86 where positive.The only flaw with it is the sound quality(which could be corrected with a sound system)but the picture is breath taking.

Guys just ignore the troll

ultralesus

[QUOTE="MrGanny"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"] Are you afraid the truth.....?I just say why most of the games on the PS3 play on 720.Panosola

It's just a simple question and I'm just curious, if you support Xbox 360 that much, why are you here ? It's only question. Not saying you can't be here or anything. I just want to know. :)

No you don't:lol:...all you have are xbox games listed in your profile...and I thought I ask you to behave....no cookes for you!!!:|

[QUOTE="ultralesus"]

Guys just ignore the troll

Panosola

WOW...trollism at it's worst.:o