Bad move on the Ps4 camera?

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#1 JayBean21
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Saw the news on the ps4 camera just now and booked marked it: http://bit.ly/12ooULC I am actually kinda happy that sony dropped the camera since I didn't think the Kinect was useful. The extra money saved is definitely something appreciated. Not sure if we will miss on anything super cool though. What do you think?
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#2 redman100111
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I could care less about it. I don't like the kinect and I'm glad Sony didn't follow suit in that department and made it Optional. All I need is my controller. I don't want/need to wave my body around to play a game.

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#3 pickettsticket
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I want the extra money in my pocket rather than add ons which I do not wish to own

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#4 SoNin360
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I doubt I would have used it. So I'm glad they decided not to include it... making people buy something they don't want is kind of foolish, especially when it's an optional accessory that's worth $60.
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#5 vpacalypse
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Great move overall.

 

I doubt I would have used it at all anyway. Only bad thing for me is the controller light at the top is now useless but that's no deal breaker at all.

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#6 PS4TrumpsXbox1
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Does anyone know any games that will support the camera?
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#7 MarcRecon
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Gaming is one of the few times when I can sit on my @$$...l'm glad sony made the camera optional.

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#8 jer_1
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Taking the lame ass camera out was for the best. There was not 1 single game worth owning for kinect and for the eye. This isn't going to change just because they "upgraded" their camera.
This crap is not needed for games, it's needed for idiots who have to talk online to each other, a niche market to the extreme being forced upon everyone.
I'll take the games, fvck the cameras.
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#9 vpacalypse
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Does anyone know any games that will support the camera?PS4TrumpsXbox1
Nothing worth mentioning I guess. I just gotta ask what could the light panel at the top of the controller potentially do if used properly? I mean it looks cool but I wanna know what does?
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#10 2Chalupas
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Yeah, about the only thing I've ever found truly "useful" with motion controls is playing Tiger Woods on Wii, PS3. A mini/sports game collection is a fun little diversion, but I definitely don't need it bundled in for $100 extra. At launch I will definitely be going without a PS Eye. I'm not sure I will even pick one up down the line either, I bought a Move and while it was fine for the few games I played with it (mostly TW Golf) - for the most part it was a wasted purchase.
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#11 Hungry_Homer111
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If they had included it, making the price $100 more than it is, I probably would have decided to pick up a Wii U instead. So I'm very happy they decided to take it out.
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#12 jcopp72
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most people dont care about the camera, and if you want it you can still get it. Its win win for everyone.
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#13 bigt503
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Motion gaming and all that jazz doesn't interest me, or any of my friends. We'd rather have a system for 100 bucks less. I'm sure it's importnat to some people but nobody that i know 

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#14 Trail_Mix
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I'm glad. I've never had any interest in this motion control.

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#15 Vari3ty
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Fantastic decision by Sony. Motion control gaming has been nothing short of pathetic and cutting out a peripheral which I'd never want to use or even have in my house - while saving me $100 - is great and gives the PS4 a serious advantage over the X1. 

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#16 AJC3317
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it was a fantastic decision. makes the price lower which is extremely important, and frankly there have not been any games worthy of having it or the Kinect. make the great games and the adopters will come, don't force it on us with the hope of something decent coming along
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#17 Basinboy
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Kinect is great tech - just not for games.  Its media capabilities are really impressive but the investment to get AAA games developed for it generates a very poor ROI.  MS' bet is on Kinect and the multimedia features it can bring to its product.

Sony wasn't going to spend the money to rip-off Kinect pound for pound, saw what kind of things they could do with a camera add-on and have decided it's best presented as a niche product.  It's there if you want it, but they prefer putting their bets on other horses.

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#18 DaRq_MiNoS
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Yeah, about the only thing I've ever found truly "useful" with motion controls is playing Tiger Woods on Wii, PS3. A mini/sports game collection is a fun little diversion, but I definitely don't need it bundled in for $100 extra. At launch I will definitely be going without a PS Eye. I'm not sure I will even pick one up down the line either, I bought a Move and while it was fine for the few games I played with it (mostly TW Golf) - for the most part it was a wasted purchase. 2Chalupas

Yeah, my brother's got the Move with his PS3 and all it's been used for is TW golf. None of the launch titles made use of the Eye so I'd rather have the $100 for sure. If someone comes up with a really cool game for it, maybe I'll consider getting one.

I think Sony was utterly brilliant in the way they handled the next gen announcements. They powned Microsoft. They sold a ton more units than they would have I think.

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#20 sukraj
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I could care less about it. I don't like the kinect and I'm glad Sony didn't follow suit in that department and made it Optional. All I need is my controller. I don't want/need to wave my body around to play a game.

redman100111

This

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#21 shellcase86
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It was a smart move by Sony. Glad they have a the price advantage. I'll be picking up a PS4 Camera, regardless, for the family to use and enjoy.

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#22 Young_Charter
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Waste of time, money, and investment. I just need a controller.
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#23 Videodogg
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I LOVE Move and i really, really hope it is supported in a BIG way on PS4. I will buy the camera day one and hope Killzone is compatible with the move controllers.

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#24 kyacat
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Nope caue the camera not interest to me and happy Sony made one best move on their ps4 by not including the camera attached to the ps4 system.
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#25 JasonDarksavior
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I'm glad because this means it is not going to encourage developers to force us to use motion control.
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#26 Jackc8
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I've had a PS3 for several years now and have never spent the money on a camera or Move.  Obviously I don't want to be forced to buy it now in order to get a PS4.  And all this crap about Kinect being included with every console so developers will be more likely to incorporate it into their core games - that's the last thing I want.  Some stupid motion control crap tacked on for the sole purpose of giving it a reason to exist.  No thank you.

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#27 SLAMMIN23
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i bought the new ps4 camera i heard it has voice commands on it and gesture movements like the kinect i like using it for games and other things like that it would be cool if it would let us be able to turn our system on with it i know its suppose to have 3d in it and face recognation to its not bad for a extra $60

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#28 Sokol4ever
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It's optional, I personally don't plan to purchase the camera right away, maybe with time and interesting games for it.

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[QUOTE="vpacalypse"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"]Does anyone know any games that will support the camera?kingoflife9

Nothing worth mentioning I guess. I just gotta ask what could the light panel at the top of the controller potentially do if used properly? I mean it looks cool but I wanna know what does?

its so if you play a 2 player game, it will switch the screens to which ever side of the room your sitting on.

Or if first person games made a comeback, the ai could know which direction to look.

 

I'm glad they left it out.  I see nothing about the Kinect that I like and I see nothing for the Move and Eye that I like.  I can always buy it in the future if that changes.

 

These peripheral and movement controllers always have people imaging how good it will be if it worked well and I agree it could be great.  It has never worked well and I have no reason to believe this year's model will either.

 

I just hope the crappy sixaxis style control dies off too.

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#30 Venom_Raptor
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I'm glad they dropped it, not a fan of things like that

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#31 redog003
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I can only thank Sony so so much for taking out the eye. Easier on the pockets
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#32 Nengo_Flow
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I have the PS3's PS EYE, and I've probably used it like 4x in 3 years. It is nice to have, and it will be a useful device on the PS4, but its something people can live with out.
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#33 Gargus
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Im glad sony made it optional. Meaning some people might love the thing and if they do they can buy one. If someone doesnt like it they dont have to purchase it.

Even on its own its still cheaper to buy a ps4 and the camera seperate vs buying an xbox one with the camera included.

It isnt a bad its an option. Options are always good because it allows more variety for people to choose what they want. Forcing people to use something without giving them an option is bad.

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#34 spike6958
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I'm glad they didn't force it on us. The money I'm saving not having to buy the camera I can instead put towards the things I actually want, the games.
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#35 Zero_resistance
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Unless you want to use the move function on the controller, then I wouldn't bother.

Not a big fan of cameras anyway.

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#36 Boddicker
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It was a damn good move IMO.

I could give two shits about the PS eye. Just another gimmick like the share button (which I also feel is worthless to 95% of people).

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#37 SLAMMIN23
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isnt this eye suppose to have voice commands and gesture functions similiar to knect like hand motions not using the controller?

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#38 HipHopBeats
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I could care less about it. I don't like the kinect and I'm glad Sony didn't follow suit in that department and made it Optional. All I need is my controller. I don't want/need to wave my body around to play a game.

redman100111

Lol, one of the many reasons why I have yet to purchase a Wii U.

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#39 HipHopBeats
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It was a damn good move IMO.

I could give two shits about the PS eye. Just another gimmick like the share button (which I also feel is worthless to 95% of people).

Boddicker

That share button is the only clown feature on the PS4 I can think of. A normal select button would have worked wonders.

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#40 AzatiS
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I dont like camers nor motion controls so... good move considering made PS4 cheaper as well. A win-win situation for my taste.
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#41 bezza2011
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I think the reality was always that the camera wasn't going to work for them, plus i don't see what everyone going on about, they never said the camera would be coming with the ps4 in the first place they just showed it with it. 

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#42 nyc05
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I think it speaks to Sony's desire to get the PS4 out to consumers as cheaply as possible, which is an excellent move.  I think it also speaks to the fact that Sony doesn't feel the PS4Eye is an integral component of PlayStation 4 gaming which, while great for most gamers, could mean that PS4Eye won't get a ton of support.

I will buy the PS4Eye because I think sports games like Sports Champions are fun.  I also have to say that, if not for Move, I don't know if I would have finished Heavy Rain.  I hated playing that game with the DS3.  It wasn't until I hooked up the Move and Nav Controller that I got seriously into the game.

Without being included in the box I don't think it will become a big feature of PS4 because, like last gen, the audience is fragmented - some will have it, most won't, so devs aren't going to focus on incorporating it into their games.

However, since the PS4 brings with it a slew of social features, perhaps more gamers will be inclined to pick it up. Perhaps Sony will consider putting a voucher inside of PS4 that gives a % off of PS4Eye.  Would be a good move to try and sell some of them.

We'll see.

I will buy it for Move, though.