Your games will expire on Origin if you havent used them in two years.

Yep you heard correct, don't use your account or don't play one of your games for 24 months and EA will get rid of it, this is absolute craziness, I look through my steam list and can pick out a couple of games that I probably haven't played in two years, for example my Mass Effect, I've got 50 hours on it but it was probably two years ago since I last played it for reasons such as ME2 coming out and just generally not having the desire to play it again.

If you don't believe me check out the Terms of Service on the Origin homepage

http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/ CTRL F and search for 24 and you'll find it there under Chapter 5 Content and Entitlement Availability

thats kind of ridiculos. Can we ever get them back? didnt read the TOS, I just trust you.

I'll copy and paste the specific info from the TOS

We do not guarantee that any Content or Entitlement will be available at all times or at any given time or that we will continue to offer particular Content or Entitlements for any particular length of time. We reserve the right to change and update Content and Entitlements without notice to you. If you have not used your Entitlements or Account for twenty four (24) months or more and your Account has associated Entitlements, your Entitlements will expire and your Account may be cancelled for non-use.

a lot of if and, and maybes in there.

It says your ORIGIN account, not just a single game. We must assume they mean if it remains completely passive (I.E not logging on)

There's another post that tackled this issue. The key will still work, only the download will expire... (make a backup, end of story)FelipeInside

It says your ORIGIN account, not just a single game. We must assume they mean if it remains completely passive (I.E not logging on)

DoomZaW

What, wow, really?

It says your ORIGIN account, not just a single game. We must assume they mean if it remains completely passive (I.E not logging on)

DoomZaW

He is right Supras989...you "just" have to log in one in those 24 months to "reset" it, you don't have to play your games (Origin/EA account = your games, entitlements = Origin account)...stop being so insecure and stop "figuring out" the obvious that's been around since EADM (AKA Origin) was invented, this here is spam, what you wrote is present in all the Origin mindless hate threads.

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It says your ORIGIN account, not just a single game. We must assume they mean if it remains completely passive (I.E not logging on)

DanielDust

He is right Supras989...you "just" have to log in one in those 24 months to "reset" it, you don't have to play your games (Origin/EA account = your games, entitlements = Origin account)...stop being so insecure and stop "figuring out" the obvious that's been around since EADM (AKA Origin) was invented, this here is spam, what you wrote is present in all the Origin mindless hate threads.

Meaning Entitlements does include Games and dlc but is not limited to just those, as it still stands, this means that if said Entitlement is not used in a period of 24 months it will expire.

Im sure you will be able to reactivate your account some way, I think I read something to this effect about my WoW account in 2004 and that hasn't gone any where after years of inactivity.

It's like that part in the Steam TOS where Valve doesn't guarantee access to your account, subscriptions and games!

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[QUOTE="DoomZaW"] My God, what is this, somebody that understands?

He is right Supras989...you "just" have to log in one in those 24 months to "reset" it, you don't have to play your games (Origin/EA account = your games, entitlements = Origin account)...stop being so insecure and stop "figuring out" the obvious that's been around since EADM (AKA Origin) was invented, this here is spam, what you wrote is present in all the Origin mindless hate threads.

supras989

Meaning Entitlements does include Games and dlc but is not limited to just those, as it still stands, this means that if said Entitlement is not used in a period of 24 months it will expire.

Guys, ur games will be available even after 2 years

Stop being so NAIVE, no company would do that

It's like people on the net are paid to find any little bad part of anythingFelipeInside

Nope, it's like the first time people actually read, just think about what they'd do if they'd be educated enough to read the Steam TOS, Valve would burn, assuming all the "cool" kids hating the EA TOS would go to their studio.

wow...really.

Well I'm not going to buy from them anyway. Their prices are too high.

Wasn't MS doing something like this with Live?

It's like people on the net are paid to find any little bad part of anythingFelipeInside

Heh, I wish someone would do that. At least I'd has a job. :P
Good thing, I know now. All that worries me, is.... will they have deals as awesome as Steam's ones? Don't think so, but they will probably have some interesting deals. And they are even copying it withthe Achievements phase.

thats kind of ridiculos. Can we ever get them back? didnt read the TOS, I just trust you.

deathshand707

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thats kind of ridiculos. Can we ever get them back? didnt read the TOS, I just trust you.

guildclaws

I don't like any bit of this. I say we make a petition for Mass Effect 3 using Steamworks

[QUOTE="trastamad03"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]There's another post that tackled this issue. The key will still work, only the download will expire... (make a backup, end of story)FelipeInside

Ma' Head Asplode! :O

I love how people are freaking out at EA when Steam and every other DD service have similar terms. They can all deny access to games and account whenever they want.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="trastamad03"] I don't get why people are so nonchalant about this... What will you do when your HDD dies and all your backed up games are gone. Then what? Origin won't have your game available for download, you're either going to have to buy a retail copy (so now you'll have 2 keys for the game) or torrent it from some pirating site. Am I missing something? Please explain to me.trastamad03

Ma' Head Asplode! :O

[QUOTE="trastamad03"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Yes you are missing something, it's called backing up.FelipeInside

Ma' Head Asplode! :O

Yes, that's good for business or important data, but this is game data we're talking about. It's ridiculous that they can't offer unlimited downloads as long as the business is available. It doesn't matter if they aren't the only ones; it's ridiculous for any of those services to do that.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="trastamad03"] But I just said, what if your Backup HD dies... How many backups do you backup?

Ma' Head Asplode! :O

guynamedbilly

Yes, that's good for business or important data, but this is game data we're talking about. It's ridiculous that they can't offer unlimited downloads as long as the business is available. It doesn't matter if they aren't the only ones; it's ridiculous for any of those services to do that.

Where did I say I keep 2 copies of downloaded games? Yep, nowhere....

I just stated the golden rule of data backup, since trastamad03 was worrying about his backups dying.

I buy retail mate.... DVDs last years more than Hard Drives.

As for the service....remember that keeping more and more games (after years) is not only storage space for the servers, but bandwidth also. They could put up a secondary seeding service I guess but remember it's a company, they try to cut costs whenever.

If you want to play a game after 2 whole years.... then make a backup, simple.

make a backup, not simple.FelipeInside

provided you log into your account once every two years, you won't lose anything. I think this is not an issue for essentially all gamers.

Quit yer whinin' :P

I was going to buy Crysis 2 but now that it is taken off steam and made Origin exclusive I won't botherfoxhAngelus

unless you can no longer buy a disc version its not origin exclusive, people need to learn what exclusive means.

and this is why I'll do business with Valve primarily and buy EA games through retail.skrat_01

You know valve can disable your account whenever they want too right? go read there ToS sometime.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] make a backup, not simple.guynamedbilly

[QUOTE="foxhAngelus"] I was going to buy Crysis 2 but now that it is taken off steam and made Origin exclusive I won't botherwarmaster670

unless you can no longer buy a disc version its not origin exclusive, people need to learn what exclusive means.

and this is why I'll do business with Valve primarily and buy EA games through retail.skrat_01

You know valve can disable your account whenever they want too right? go read there ToS sometime.

Yup. Not a lot of people seem to realize that. Section 9-C in the Steam ToS clearly states "Valve does not guarantee continuous, error-free, virus-free, or secure operation and access to Steam, the software, your account and/or your subscirption(s)."

The only games I've bought off Origin (Or the EADM as it was known back in the day) are the Sims 2 and 3, the rest are game codes that i've used that come from steam or Burnout Paradise which I got free from EA around Christmas time so it wont be too much of a loss if EA decides to cancel my Account but if just Logging in is what's keeping my account afloat then it's no probalem as EADM/Origin has always managed to start itself up whenever my computer turns on even when I haven't wanted it.

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[QUOTE="foxhAngelus"]

unless you can no longer buy a disc version its not origin exclusive, people need to learn what exclusive means.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]and this is why I'll do business with Valve primarily and buy EA games through retail.Phoenix534

You know valve can disable your account whenever they want too right? go read there ToS sometime.

Yup. Not a lot of people seem to realize that. Section 9-C in the Steam ToS clearly states "Valve does not guarantee continuous, error-free, virus-free, or secure operation and access to Steam, the software, your account and/or your subscirption(s)."

This has been dismissed by customer care for me around 2 months ago, its not true, get over it.

It's like that part in the Steam TOS where Valve doesn't guarantee access to your account, subscriptions and games!

Baranga

I am glad there are other places on the internet to buy my games. Amazon.com, Steam and Direct2drive will continue to be my places of choice where there is no expiration.Jd1680a