Windows 7 vs Windows Vista

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#1 Hellsing2o2
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Ok, I am currently starving for a brand new OS, and would like to know what benefits Win7 will have over Vista, how much better it's performance might be, and all that.

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#2 brandontwb
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Ok, I am currently starving for a brand new OS, and would like to know what benefits Win7 will have over Vista, how much better it's performance might be, and all that.

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My friend just got the Windows 7 beta, and first of all, it looks better, loads faster, and uses about 35% less RAM than Vista used.
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#3 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

Ok, I am currently starving for a brand new OS, and would like to know what benefits Win7 will have over Vista, how much better it's performance might be, and all that.

brandontwb

My friend just got the Windows 7 beta, and first of all, it looks better, loads faster, and uses about 35% less RAM than Vista used.

I'm sold.

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#4 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

Ok, I am currently starving for a brand new OS, and would like to know what benefits Win7 will have over Vista, how much better it's performance might be, and all that.

Hellsing2o2

My friend just got the Windows 7 beta, and first of all, it looks better, loads faster, and uses about 35% less RAM than Vista used.

I'm sold.

I noticed you have the G man in your display pic. As of now, Windows 7 has compatibility issues with Half-Life 2. You might want to check into that before you buy.
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#5 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]My friend just got the Windows 7 beta, and first of all, it looks better, loads faster, and uses about 35% less RAM than Vista used.brandontwb

I'm sold.

I noticed you have the G man in your display pic. As of now, Windows 7 has compatibility issues with Half-Life 2. You might want to check into that before you buy.

Is it just HL2? Or all sourse games? Because I only play L4D right now.

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#6 S0H0
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I've never had an issue with HL2 using W7x86. Runs like a dream.
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#7 Mr_BillGates
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Sightly faster with SSD.

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#8 nVidiaGaMer
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Sightly faster with SSD.

Mr_BillGates

Nearly any Raid 0 setup can match a SSD.

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#9 powerwolff
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Yeah I've been using Windows 7 RC (32-bit) for a while now on my laptop and have had no real problems with it. Comparing it to 64-bit Vista, which I used earlier this year for quite some time) I'd say it's a bit faster and definitely less of a memory hog...plus I like the new layout and such :)

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#10 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

I'm sold.

Hellsing2o2

I noticed you have the G man in your display pic. As of now, Windows 7 has compatibility issues with Half-Life 2. You might want to check into that before you buy.

Is it just HL2? Or all sourse games? Because I only play L4D right now.

L4D is what my friend played and it ran very well to say the least.
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#11 brandontwb
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I've never had an issue with HL2 using W7x86. Runs like a dream.S0H0
Maybe I'm misinformed..
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#12 Hellsing2o2
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Yeah I've been using Windows 7 RC (32-bit) for a while now on my laptop and have had no real problems with it. Comparing it to 64-bit Vista, which I used earlier this year for quite some time) I'd say it's a bit faster and definitely less of a memory hog...plus I like the new layout and such :)

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Yeah the layout is what drew me to it :P It would be SUCH a refresh from 7 years of XP lol

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#13 General_X
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

I'm sold.

Hellsing2o2

I noticed you have the G man in your display pic. As of now, Windows 7 has compatibility issues with Half-Life 2. You might want to check into that before you buy.

Is it just HL2? Or all sourse games? Because I only play L4D right now.

I can vouch that TF2 works perfectly on Windows 7 RC.
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I noticed you have the G man in your display pic. As of now, Windows 7 has compatibility issues with Half-Life 2. You might want to check into that before you buy.brandontwb

Um, what issues would those be? Perhaps the trouble that many people have running HL2 in its 64-bit mode, which is just as common on Vista if not moreso? Sure 7 is currently an RC and you shouldn't expect miracles from it, but...

HL2 runs fine on 64-bit Windows 7 (and Vista) if you set it to 32-bit mode, and the game's 64-bit mode can be made to work with some tweaks to config settings. Of course, if you're only using 32-bit Vista or 32-bit 7, then you don't need to do anything special to make HL2 work.

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#16 imprezawrx500
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win7 runs better, boots way faster and has a few nice features. If you have a fast system the main difference is in boot times and the new features. At this point I would not get vista with win7 so close and how it runs better.
[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]My friend just got the Windows 7 beta, and first of all, it looks better, loads faster, and uses about 35% less RAM than Vista used.brandontwb

I'm sold.

I noticed you have the G man in your display pic. As of now, Windows 7 has compatibility issues with Half-Life 2. You might want to check into that before you buy.

really? hl2 runs perfect on my win7 rc1 machine.
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#17 Jamiemydearx3
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Windows 7 x64, run all source games fine.

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#18 kungfool69
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i sell PCs for a living. Vista's main issue isnt compatibility, its brand perception. hopefully they fix it this time. so far every customers "friend of a friend" hates vista coz it cant run some obscure old program. Yet, everyone who comes in quoting "their IT guy from work", all the feedback for win7 is positive.

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#19 Daytona_178
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i sell PCs for a living. Vista's main issue isnt compatibility, its brand perception. hopefully they fix it this time. so far every customers "friend of a friend" hates vista coz it cant run some obscure old program. Yet, everyone who comes in quoting "their IT guy from work", all the feedback for win7 is positive.

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Iam in the same industry and i COMPLETELY agree with what you just said.
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#20 perfect_chao
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Vista isn't as bad as most people think, it is pretty good.. but Win7 is better in the sense it uses a bit less system resources so everybody wins, that and 7 works faster with SSD's than other OS's, plus you can get it Retailfor only £50 before the price shoots up to £150

cant go wrong, never ever seen a retail OS go for that price on preorder.

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#21 theG168
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Where do you get Windows 7 and the beta?

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#22 jamesfffan
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Well the difference memory wise is the way Windows 7 manages it, they've changed it, I read Windows 7 put's things in parallel, whereas Vista kinda stacks processes. The reason why BOTH Windows 7 and Vista use a fair amount of RAM is Superfetch, which adds most used programs and processes into your Ram for faster viewing/access, the other difference is that Windows 7 appears to scale better from low end PC's to High-end PC's, wheres as Vista can struggle on lower end PC's Vista's base Ram is said to be 600mb, and Windows 7 is around 300mb, but having said that Vista on a system with 2gb RAM on 32-bit runs just fine, and on 64-bit 4gb RAM it flies, Windows 7 is just more efficient at it. It is known Windows 7 is based off of Vista code, and its driver set, they've had a public beta and feedback and Listened to us.

In a nutshell Windows 7 is a decent improvement over Windows Vista, including everything people have said before me, and I would recommend to anyone to pre-order it now!!

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http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx RC Windows 7 7100
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#24 rock_solid
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stop calling vista a memory hog. learn how SUPERFETCH works.
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#25 Gog
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Win7 has the about the same memory footprint as Vista. In fact it's almost the same in every other aspect as well. I can only tell I am in Win 7 and not Vista by looking at the taskbar.

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#26 Hellsing2o2
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Thanks for all the info, I am going to upgrade to Win7 as soon as it comes out:D

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#27 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]My friend just got the Windows 7 beta, and first of all, it looks better, loads faster, and uses about 35% less RAM than Vista used.brandontwb

I'm sold.

I noticed you have the G man in your display pic. As of now, Windows 7 has compatibility issues with Half-Life 2. You might want to check into that before you buy.

Really now? I've been playing CS:S, L4D and HL2, all of which run perfectly on win7x86
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#28 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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Windows 7 is also far more efficient in regards to SSD's which is the biggest selling point for me.

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#29 enriK233
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i heard it looks the same

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#30 Makari
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Win7 has the about the same memory footprint as Vista. In fact it's almost the same in every other aspect as well. I can only tell I am in Win 7 and not Vista by looking at the taskbar.

Gog
Yeah, that's true - I've noticed that Vista reported the cached memory as part of its 'in use.' 7 reports the cached memory as 'Cached,' and differentiates between the 'available' and 'free' memory, and most people don't seem to notice the slight change and just assume that 7 uses a gig less RAM or something.
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#31 TerroRizing
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[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Gog"]

Win7 has the about the same memory footprint as Vista. In fact it's almost the same in every other aspect as well. I can only tell I am in Win 7 and not Vista by looking at the taskbar.

Yeah, that's true - I've noticed that Vista reported the cached memory as part of its 'in use.' 7 reports the cached memory as 'Cached,' and differentiates between the 'available' and 'free' memory, and most people don't seem to notice the slight change and just assume that 7 uses a gig less RAM or something.

People like to see those sorts of things, it tricks 95% of people.
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#32 jamesfffan
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I've written things about windows 7 on here before, and i did mention this trick once, erm cant remember when but yes that is true, just go into task manager on vista, and click the resource manager it will reveal the amount vista is using and its not much different to 7, yet 7 does things better as ive stated above.

This trick actually threw me off thinking wtf are we being fooled into thinking windows 7 is different some way when handling memory when it actually isnt? until i read some things like this

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=672

and other sites detailing how its changed the way it manages resources enough to be decently better, while still using superfetch etc..