What processor to get?

  • 53 results
  • 1
  • 2

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for svenus97
#1 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -

Hello there. So, basically, this is my PC: asus radeon HD 6870, 4gb ddr3 ram, intel quad core q8300 2.5Ghz, windows 7 64bit. The game I primarily play and pretty much the only game I will play on my PC in the forseeable future is Guild Wars 2. Now, GW2 runs pretty much like **** At the lowest settings I get around 25 FPS in WvW and when battles get big the FPS is comparable to a powerpoint presentation.

I think the obvious choice of what to upgrade is the processor. Now, which processor do you guys think is good enough to make the game run at atleast 30FPS without ever dropping, and without it being too expensive?

Thanks.

Avatar image for GTR12
#2 Posted by GTR12 (12499 posts) -

3570k

Avatar image for svenus97
#3 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -

3570k

GTR12

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

Avatar image for kitty
#4 Posted by kitty (115325 posts) -

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

3570k

svenus97

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

K means it can overclock and you can get better performance out of the cpu from doing that.
Avatar image for svenus97
#5 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -
[QUOTE="svenus97"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

3570k

2ndWonder

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

K means it can overclock and you can get better performance out of the cpu from doing that.

Ah, thanks.
Avatar image for dramaybaz
#6 Posted by dramaybaz (6020 posts) -
They have neglected to say that i5 3570k won't be working on your socket. You will need to get a new mobo.
Avatar image for svenus97
#7 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -
They have neglected to say that i5 3570k won't be working on your socket. You will need to get a new mobo.dramaybaz
Will an i5 3570 work?
Avatar image for kraken2109
#8 Posted by kraken2109 (13271 posts) -
[QUOTE="dramaybaz"]They have neglected to say that i5 3570k won't be working on your socket. You will need to get a new mobo.svenus97
Will an i5 3570 work?

No, any modern CPU will require a new motherboard
Avatar image for ferret-gamer
#9 Posted by ferret-gamer (17476 posts) -
[QUOTE="dramaybaz"]They have neglected to say that i5 3570k won't be working on your socket. You will need to get a new mobo.svenus97
Will an i5 3570 work?

No, LGA775 stopped being used a few generations ago.
Avatar image for svenus97
#10 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -
[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="dramaybaz"]They have neglected to say that i5 3570k won't be working on your socket. You will need to get a new mobo.ferret-gamer
Will an i5 3570 work?

No, LGA775 stopped being used a few generations ago.

Ah, okay:) Any recommended motherboards?
Avatar image for lostrib
#11 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="svenus97"] Will an i5 3570 work?svenus97
No, LGA775 stopped being used a few generations ago.

Ah, okay:) Any recommended motherboards?

Do you plan to overclock? and budget? also do you live near a microcenter?

Avatar image for GummiRaccoon
#12 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13793 posts) -

You'll probably need ram too.

Avatar image for Gaming-Planet
#13 Posted by Gaming-Planet (18548 posts) -
[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="svenus97"] Will an i5 3570 work?

No, LGA775 stopped being used a few generations ago.

Ah, okay:) Any recommended motherboards?

If you're getting the 3570k, then obviously you'll be doing some overclocking. It's best to use a different cpu cooler than the stock cooler for the cpu. If not, then the stock cooler will do just fine with a 3570 or a 3570 on stock speeds. It uses an LGA 1155 socket, so maybe a z77 type motherboard if your budget is okay?
Avatar image for clyde46
#14 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -

You'll probably need ram too.

GummiRaccoon
8GB of Corsair vengeance for £30($45). Done.
Avatar image for martinluthra14
#15 Posted by martinluthra14 (25 posts) -
hay i m using Intel Core i5 2300 Processor it is fast n best performance.... it most demanding application.....
Avatar image for AmazonTreeBoa
#16 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

3570k

svenus97

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

You sound like me. Only I was picking between the 3770 and 3770k. I ended up getting the 3770 because of the added security features it has that the k doesn't have. Plus I never bother with overclocking.
Avatar image for C_Rule
#17 Posted by C_Rule (9816 posts) -
[QUOTE="svenus97"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

3570k

AmazonTreeBoa

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

You sound like me. Only I was picking between the 3770 and 3770k. I ended up getting the 3770 because of the added security features it has that the k doesn't have. Plus I never bother with overclocking.

Ability to overclock would be more beneficial than those features.
Avatar image for soolkiki
#18 Posted by soolkiki (1783 posts) -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293 Mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 CPU (you can get the non K version for $10 less.)

I use both, they are amazing! Just don't OC before getting the right kind of cooling.

 

Avatar image for soolkiki
#19 Posted by soolkiki (1783 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

You'll probably need ram too.

clyde46

8GB of Corsair vengeance for £30($45). Done.

^ This as well.

Avatar image for clyde46
#20 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="svenus97"]

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

C_Rule
You sound like me. Only I was picking between the 3770 and 3770k. I ended up getting the 3770 because of the added security features it has that the k doesn't have. Plus I never bother with overclocking.

Ability to overclock would be more beneficial than those features.

What if he doesn't want to overclock?
Avatar image for AmazonTreeBoa
#21 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="svenus97"]

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

C_Rule
You sound like me. Only I was picking between the 3770 and 3770k. I ended up getting the 3770 because of the added security features it has that the k doesn't have. Plus I never bother with overclocking.

Ability to overclock would be more beneficial than those features.

No it wouldn't. Can you not read? I don't overclock.
Avatar image for lostrib
#22 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

[QUOTE="svenus97"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

3570k

AmazonTreeBoa

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

You sound like me. Only I was picking between the 3770 and 3770k. I ended up getting the 3770 because of the added security features it has that the k doesn't have. Plus I never bother with overclocking.

security features?

Avatar image for GTR12
#23 Posted by GTR12 (12499 posts) -

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="svenus97"]

Whats the difference between a 3570 and a 3570k?

lostrib

You sound like me. Only I was picking between the 3770 and 3770k. I ended up getting the 3770 because of the added security features it has that the k doesn't have. Plus I never bother with overclocking.

security features?

Yeah lol, what security features does the regular 3570 or 3770 have that, that the k series doesn't? its the same chip with an unlocked multiplier.

Avatar image for C_Rule
#24 Posted by C_Rule (9816 posts) -
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] You sound like me. Only I was picking between the 3770 and 3770k. I ended up getting the 3770 because of the added security features it has that the k doesn't have. Plus I never bother with overclocking.

Ability to overclock would be more beneficial than those features.

No it wouldn't. Can you not read? I don't overclock.

Do you actually use the features the 3770 has over the 3770K?
Avatar image for AmazonTreeBoa
#25 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="C_Rule"] Ability to overclock would be more beneficial than those features.

No it wouldn't. Can you not read? I don't overclock.

Do you actually use the features the 3770 has over the 3770K?

Do you even know what those security features are?
Avatar image for C_Rule
#26 Posted by C_Rule (9816 posts) -
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] No it wouldn't. Can you not read? I don't overclock.

Do you actually use the features the 3770 has over the 3770K?

Do you even know what those security features are?

I don't fully understand the extent of the features, but I know they benefit use in professional environments and advanced VM use.
Avatar image for svenus97
#27 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -

Just to check, would these do? It's in Croatian, but I think you'll understand.

Processor

Motherboard

RAM

Avatar image for GummiRaccoon
#28 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13793 posts) -

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="C_Rule"] Do you actually use the features the 3770 has over the 3770K?C_Rule
Do you even know what those security features are?

I don't fully understand the extent of the features, but I know they benefit use in professional environments and advanced VM use.

Trusted execution is spyware.

vpro is meh

vt-d is ok

Avatar image for GTR12
#29 Posted by GTR12 (12499 posts) -

Just to check, would these do? It's in Croatian, but I think you'll understand.

Processor

Motherboard

RAM

svenus97

Those are fine, but thats a non-k chip, so no overclocking.

Avatar image for svenus97
#30 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -

Thank you all for your posts, I just have a couple of questions more.

When I get this, for how long will it last, meaning can I go a couple of years before another upgrade?

Is it possible for me to install these things myself, is it complicated, is there a chance I might break something?

Is this all I need? Is there a chance I might also need to upgrade something else, like if the housing is too small. Meaning I get the RAM the Motherboard and the Processor.

OK, so I've found that my mobo is 12inch x 8.2 inch while the one I want is 12inch x 9.6inch, could this be a problem?

Avatar image for homeboylizard
#31 Posted by homeboylizard (1289 posts) -

Fellow Croat? I'm Croatian too. Anyways...

Ram- http://www.links.hr/?naziv=memorija-pc-12800-8-gb-g-skill-sniper-series-f3-12800cl9d-8gbsr-1-5-v-ddr3-1600mhz-kit-2x4gb&option=artikl&id_kategorija=05121009&id_artikl=051.210.172

CPU- http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?products_id=11435

Mobo- http://www.links.hr/artikl-050.306.839 Then, in a year or 2 upgrade your GPU. Also, what is your power supply and case?

EDIT: At ADM.hr you have the same MOBO= http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?products_id=11401

Avatar image for svenus97
#32 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -

So I've been looking at some guides and it says that you should apply some thermal paste on your new cpu after installing it, is this really necessary?

Avatar image for Elann2008
#33 Posted by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

So I've been looking at some guides and it says that you should apply some thermal paste on your new cpu after installing it, is this really necessary?

svenus97
Whether you're using an aftermarket CPU cooler or stock, clean off the old thermal paste with 91% isopropyl alcohol, and put about a pea size of thermal paste on the CPU. Seating the heatsink on it will spread it by itself. If you want to use the butter spread method, use a business card or something similar and spread it really thin or else the thermal paste will ooze out to the side and you'll be in somewhat of a pickle.
Avatar image for horgen
#34 Posted by Horgen (116194 posts) -
[QUOTE="svenus97"]

So I've been looking at some guides and it says that you should apply some thermal paste on your new cpu after installing it, is this really necessary?

Elann2008
Whether you're using an aftermarket CPU cooler or stock, clean off the old thermal paste with 91% isopropyl alcohol, and put about a pea size of thermal paste on the CPU. Seating the heatsink on it will spread it by itself. If you want to use the butter spread method, use a business card or something similar and spread it really thin or else the thermal paste will ooze out to the side and you'll be in somewhat of a pickle.

It is not necessary but recommended. You ought to say that. Edit: I use the thermal paste that comes with the CPU together with a H100. Keeps the temp below 50C for me at 4.2GHz. The current room I got it on is also a few degrees colder than what is normal so I rarely go above 43C.
Avatar image for Elann2008
#35 Posted by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -
[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="svenus97"]

So I've been looking at some guides and it says that you should apply some thermal paste on your new cpu after installing it, is this really necessary?

horgen123
Whether you're using an aftermarket CPU cooler or stock, clean off the old thermal paste with 91% isopropyl alcohol, and put about a pea size of thermal paste on the CPU. Seating the heatsink on it will spread it by itself. If you want to use the butter spread method, use a business card or something similar and spread it really thin or else the thermal paste will ooze out to the side and you'll be in somewhat of a pickle.

It is not necessary but recommended. You ought to say that. Edit: I use the thermal paste that comes with the CPU together with a H100. Keeps the temp below 50C for me at 4.2GHz. The current room I got it on is also a few degrees colder than what is normal so I rarely go above 43C.

He's getting a new CPU, it's necessary.
Avatar image for svenus97
#36 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -

Does the paste come with the CPU or do I have to get it separetely?

Avatar image for kraken2109
#37 Posted by kraken2109 (13271 posts) -

Does the paste come with the CPU or do I have to get it separetely?

svenus97
The cooler should have some with it. Might not be as good as brand name stuff though.
Avatar image for homeboylizard
#38 Posted by homeboylizard (1289 posts) -

Does the paste come with the CPU or do I have to get it separetely?

svenus97
If you are getting a non-k (no overclocking) chip, the paste you get with the cooler will do you ok. If you do plan on getting a k chip then investing in a quality paste is always a good idea. Also, have you decided on a MOBO and CPU?
Avatar image for blaznwiipspman1
#39 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6636 posts) -

there is already thermal paste on the bottom of the heatsink fan, so no need to do anything else.  I have the 3770k but i havent overclocked it, its a beast the way it is.  Also cleaning the old thermal paste off is a pain in the arse, if you don't have cleaning solution.  

Avatar image for kraken2109
#40 Posted by kraken2109 (13271 posts) -

there is already thermal paste on the bottom of the heatsink fan, so no need to do anything else.  I have the 3770k but i havent overclocked it, its a beast the way it is.  Also cleaning the old thermal paste off is a pain in the arse, if you don't have cleaning solution.  

blaznwiipspman1
I did mine with a tissue in 10 seconds. Maybe it depends on the paste used.
Avatar image for svenus97
#43 Posted by svenus97 (2317 posts) -
[QUOTE="svenus97"]

Does the paste come with the CPU or do I have to get it separetely?

homeboylizard
If you are getting a non-k (no overclocking) chip, the paste you get with the cooler will do you ok. If you do plan on getting a k chip then investing in a quality paste is always a good idea. Also, have you decided on a MOBO and CPU?

Yea, in an upper post I linked to them.
Avatar image for blaznwiipspman1
#44 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6636 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

there is already thermal paste on the bottom of the heatsink fan, so no need to do anything else.  I have the 3770k but i havent overclocked it, its a beast the way it is.  Also cleaning the old thermal paste off is a pain in the arse, if you don't have cleaning solution.  

kraken2109

I did mine with a tissue in 10 seconds. Maybe it depends on the paste used.

 

Without any residue left? That is impossible, thermal paste is very thick so a proper clean up job can take upwards of 10 minutes with the cleaning solution...ie cleaning both the cpu AND the bottom of heatsink.  Without cleaning solution, and the purifier it can take a much longer time.  Also the longer youve had the thermal paste on the cpu, I find the longer it takes to clean off.  

Avatar image for awptical
#45 Posted by awptical (844 posts) -

10 minutes? Rubbish. What cleaning solution are you using? Mayonaise? Rubbing alcohol will take it all off in seconds. Just get the 99% lanolin free and youre good to go.

Avatar image for blaznwiipspman1
#46 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6636 posts) -

10 minutes? Rubbish. What cleaning solution are you using? Mayonaise? Rubbing alcohol will take it all off in seconds. Just get the 99% lanolin free and youre good to go.

awptical

 

I use the arctic silver 5 cleaning kit with the purifier.  I follow the manufacturers recommended steps, since the cpu isnt something I want to mess up, especially an expensive one like the i7.

3769_Arctic_Silver_5_(AS5)_Paste___Artic

Avatar image for V4LENT1NE
#47 Posted by V4LENT1NE (12901 posts) -

[QUOTE="awptical"]

10 minutes? Rubbish. What cleaning solution are you using? Mayonaise? Rubbing alcohol will take it all off in seconds. Just get the 99% lanolin free and youre good to go.

blaznwiipspman1

 

I use the arctic silver 5 cleaning kit with the purifier.  I follow the manufacturers recommended steps, since the cpu isnt something I want to mess up, especially an expensive one like the i7.

3769_Arctic_Silver_5_(AS5)_Paste___Artic

I have the same kit and it takes like a minute to do...
Avatar image for kraken2109
#48 Posted by kraken2109 (13271 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

there is already thermal paste on the bottom of the heatsink fan, so no need to do anything else.  I have the 3770k but i havent overclocked it, its a beast the way it is.  Also cleaning the old thermal paste off is a pain in the arse, if you don't have cleaning solution.  

blaznwiipspman1

I did mine with a tissue in 10 seconds. Maybe it depends on the paste used.

 

Without any residue left? That is impossible, thermal paste is very thick so a proper clean up job can take upwards of 10 minutes with the cleaning solution...ie cleaning both the cpu AND the bottom of heatsink.  Without cleaning solution, and the purifier it can take a much longer time.  Also the longer youve had the thermal paste on the cpu, I find the longer it takes to clean off.  

As i said it must depend on the paste used - this was when i replaced my stock cooler with my 212+. I guess the paste on the stock cooler was a bit crap.
Avatar image for ferret-gamer
#50 Posted by ferret-gamer (17476 posts) -

[QUOTE="awptical"]

10 minutes? Rubbish. What cleaning solution are you using? Mayonaise? Rubbing alcohol will take it all off in seconds. Just get the 99% lanolin free and youre good to go.

blaznwiipspman1

 

I use the arctic silver 5 cleaning kit with the purifier.  I follow the manufacturers recommended steps, since the cpu isnt something I want to mess up, especially an expensive one like the i7.

 

 Eh, not really that important, rubbing alcohol or acetone work perfectly fine