The War Z scam available on Steam.

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#151 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

A Shocking Interview With The War Z Developer On False Steam Store Claims

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

Great article and interview!

Gamespy rocks, that was some of the best gamign journalism ive ever seen.

Also here is a good youtube video about the WarZ and also its latest update to take more money from people for dying.

http://youtu.be/Euu2EolgPuE

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#152 Posted by FelipeInside (28380 posts) -

A Shocking Interview With The War Z Developer On False Steam Store Claims

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

Great article and interview!

Gamespy rocks, that was some of the best gamign journalism ive ever seen.

Also here is a good youtube video about the WarZ and also its latest update to take more money from people for dying.

http://youtu.be/Euu2EolgPuE

kozzy1234
Respawn Time = 4 HOURS ??? WTFFFFFFFFFFF !!!
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#153 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

IGN just linked that article from GAMESPY on ther efront page! hahaha

Game is getting TRASHED.

"DID THE WARZ SCAM GAMERS?"

First thing I see when I went to IGN :lol:

Rocket is probably glad thye came out early with this crap now haha, everyone now knows its a scam.

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#154 Posted by FelipeInside (28380 posts) -

IGN just linked that article from GAMESPY on ther efront page! hahaha

Game is getting TRASHED.

"DID THE WARZ SCAM GAMERS?"

First thing I see when I went to IGN :lol:

Rocket is probably glad thye came out early with this crap now haha, everyone now knows its a scam.

kozzy1234

You really are on a mission with this game aren't you Kozzy? lol....

BTW I just read that IGN interview..... made me giggle (and sad)

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#155 Posted by Wanderer5 (25727 posts) -

http://youtu.be/RtKAm3nzg6I

Total Biscuit trashing the game and warning pc gamers, awesome.

kozzy1234

Damn does it look so boring and bad. Also wtf at the respawn time.

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#156 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

This main Dev for WarZ is on crack I swear...

Look at this post he made today or yesterday on the forums:

December 18th - Development Update - Foundation Release features, hackers issues, etc

Hey everyone !

I'd like to address some of the community questions and concerns raised over last week.


1) What does "Foundation Release" means? Where all those features you promised ?

I really hoped that we've been communicating to community our development plans really well, but apparently some people are still have questions. First of all - "Foundation Release' means that we feel that game reached state when we can drop "Beta version" designation. It means that our system are mature enough to represent BASE for future feature development and expansion.

As we've noted several times in a past - online games in general, and The War Z in particular - are not boxed products - it's a game service to our users. We start with a basic set of features and we keep adding more content and features working together with community to make sure that game is going into direction our PAYING customers want. Ie - if you have bought the game, and keep playing game - your voice will count.

In next 1-4 weeks we plan to add more features to our initial Release :


- Leaderboards
- Rental for Gameworld and Stronghold servers
- Locker items so you'll be able to store your loot in a game world, as well as way to facilitate items dealing between players.
- New "building blocks" - items that will allow you to customize your Stronghold meta game experience

This should cover all base features that we've promised game will have at release when we've announced it back in July 2012.


2) What happened to Skills ?

We've launched our Skills test for a small group of players 1.5 weeks ago. We've hoped that we'll be able to make skills available to all players this year, but I can tell you that it's not going to happen. Our initial tests showed that we still have work to do, and we're working with active War z players to make sure that skill trees alone will be huge part of the gameplay and character development and will create value for your characters.

Bottom line - we're moving full steam ahead, but at the same time we know that now we CAN'T afford to rush half baked feature that as important as Skill Trees.


3) What's with hackers - how many of them you've banned ? Also - did you really banned innocent players ?

Let me just say this again - we have ZERO tolerance toward hackers and cheaters. And we'll fight them as hard as we can. Over last week we've banned over 3,000 players. Just to give you idea - this is less than 1% of our active players. As we've learned later - few hundred of those who been banned was using game exploits that are not considered by us being hacks, but still - we don't appreciate people trying to break game and not reporting it.

Anyway - we've adjusted our system, and we've unbanned all those "innocent" players and gave them 700GC to compensate for 2-3 days they were unable to play.

Now - some people said that we do not have anti cheat engine or anything and we've caught those guys by placing objects in a world that can't be accessed other than by using hacks. First of all - yes we did that. Second - it was up to system ( yes we have one developed by special anticheat engine team ) to catch those guys and report them to operators. Yet - this "one time" trick only helped us to catch around 1000 potential cheaters. Rest was up to our automated wallhack/ESP/noclip detection engine and our behavioral analytic software.

What will happens next ? We'll be actively fighting hackers. Hopefully we'll get it to the point when risk of being banned will be much greater than any benefits than they potentially get from using hacks.


4) What's about all that hate toward The War Z ?

Okay I can say "I don't know' and I'll be right - I don't know for sure, but at same time I have some ideas. As far as you know we're doing surveys asking our players what they like and what they don't like about our game and service. We're doing it once a month.

We've did our last survey yesterday. It got us over 100,000 replies - so we can safely say statistically it represent what our players think. We've got an overall approval of 93% !!! That's INSANE number. 40% just like game as is, 50% like game, but feel it needs more polishing and adding some new features ( yes - server rentals ). 5.5% played game, didn't like it and only 1.5% of respondents - some of the are guys who been recently banned - said they hate game.

Statistically speaking we can just say "okay, who cares about that 1.5%", but we really like to know what those guys are thinking. Because there's another set of numbers :

- 30% of our players played DayZ
- 70% of our players never played Dayz
- 5% of our players never heard about DayZ before they started looking into The War Z

This means that most of our players are new to the "genre" of zombie survival game. They either like zombie games, or they like MMO's or they like survival games. They do not play The War Z because they've been fans of Dayz or even played it.

I think there are a few groups of players who don't like us for what we're doing :


1) Extreme DayZ fanboys. I really envy to Dayz creators for having such loyal players, yet I don't think we can do anything - yes we've announced game right before DayZ mod reached it's prime and it started losing popularity after that. And yes - The War Z and DayZ themes are similar. Heck - both projects are using same reference to other products in their titles )). So - if I'll be a Dayz fanboy - I'll be royally pissed off at The War Z. Especially since they won't be able to do anything about it, all they can do is to spread lies and false information about game. They just love to omit obvious facts and bend words.

2) Players that got a different game from what they expected. One example of this - is whole PVE vs PVP discussion. When we asked our players - we've got very interesting results - half of players want unrestricted PVP, half want to eliminate PVP aspect of the game and keep game strictly PVE. Problem that can't be solved by us.

And it doesn't help obviously that The War Z got super popular despite any negativity that those people try to spread. I mean - game IS a big success for a small indie, self funded development team. It's nowhere near success stories like Minecraft, but at same time we're just two months old - we've launched first public alpha of the game on October 15th.


5) What's next for The War Z ?
Is to have nice holidays time off, with only operations team working 24/7. And after that get back to release more content, new features and listen to what our players will want game to be.

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#157 Posted by nutcrackr (13029 posts) -
You certainly don't see a lot of that type of journalism in gaming anymore
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#158 Posted by Jebus213 (9530 posts) -

A Shocking Interview With The War Z Developer On False Steam Store Claims

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

Great article and interview!

Gamespy rocks, that was some of the best gamign journalism ive ever seen.

Also here is a good youtube video about the WarZ and also its latest update to take more money from people for dying.

http://youtu.be/Euu2EolgPuE

kozzy1234
"There's no such thing as "Release" for an online game." mind=blown
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#159 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

A Shocking Interview With The War Z Developer On False Steam Store Claims

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

Great article and interview!

Gamespy rocks, that was some of the best gamign journalism ive ever seen.

Also here is a good youtube video about the WarZ and also its latest update to take more money from people for dying.

http://youtu.be/Euu2EolgPuE

Jebus213

"There's no such thing as "Release" for an online game." mind=blown

I honestly have not laughed this hard in years, all the fail things over and over

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#160 Posted by SharkheadHD (227 posts) -

Yeah I was informed by my comrades about this shortly after its release. Quite amusing actually. What do the devs of this game think they're trying to pull? This game is nowhere near official release quality. NOWHERE, LOL.

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#161 Posted by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -
You certainly don't see a lot of that type of journalism in gaming anymorenutcrackr
I was going to say the same. Gaming journalism at its best. Hell, journalism in general. He pushed for the right answers.
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#162 Posted by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

A Shocking Interview With The War Z Developer On False Steam Store Claims

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

Great article and interview!

Gamespy rocks, that was some of the best gamign journalism ive ever seen.

Also here is a good youtube video about the WarZ and also its latest update to take more money from people for dying.

http://youtu.be/Euu2EolgPuE

kozzy1234

"There's no such thing as "Release" for an online game." mind=blown

I honestly have not laughed this hard in years, all the fail things over and over

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I must say. Bush-face is perfect for this moment.
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#163 Posted by bonafidetk (3911 posts) -

Hammerpoint now moderate the steam forum. Unsurprising a lot of the threads calling out their scam practices are no longer there. They've tidied up their steam store page a little bit but its still intentionally misleading.

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#164 Posted by FelipeInside (28380 posts) -
The dev is totally right....there is no such thing as a release for an online game. Look at World of Warcraft....10 years and still hasn't been released.
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#165 Posted by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]The dev is totally right....there is no such thing as a release for an online game. Look at World of Warcraft....10 years and still hasn't been released.

Blizzard coulda fooled me!
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#166 Posted by Jebus213 (9530 posts) -
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#167 Posted by SaltyMeatballs (25162 posts) -

Lol @ Valve

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#168 Posted by R4gn4r0k (25865 posts) -

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Why is this still up on Steam? Take this sh*t down Valve.

ESB

Why would they? They're making a ton of money (~30% cut on all sales) and are as responsible as the devs for this scam!

Indeed they are. Valve has seriously damaged their reputation with this debacle imo.

I hope they make it up and give everyone a refund at the very least.

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#169 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

What gets me is this fvcking douchebag developer, Sergey, has the audacity to blame the CUSTOMERS for "misreading" the store page.

This guy is scum of the worst sort.

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#170 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

What gets me is this fvcking douchebag developer, Sergey, has the audacity to blame the CUSTOMERS for "misreading" the store page.

This guy is scum of the worst sort.

airshocker

Yup, straight scum

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#171 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

The WarZ has been pulled from Steam! haha

about time!

Its not there under TOP SELLERS OR NEW RELEAES ANYMORE! ;)

If you search fo rit you can find the page but they took away the option to BUY it thankfully.

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#172 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18452 posts) -
Awesome! Great news, and good job to Valve!
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#173 Posted by Darth_Kane (2966 posts) -

Full refunds available from steam

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#174 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

Full refunds available from steam

Darth_Kane

Awesome! +1 for Valve.

Feel bad for a few friends who got the game from the devs and have not been given a refund yet though :(

Although I did warn them many times about this haha

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#175 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

BEST VIDEO EVER ON WARZ!

OMG! Better then the TB video.. thsi is all the facts

http://youtu.be/BUrKdAjN4DM

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#176 Posted by wildwild (1139 posts) -

LOL this great. the developer sounds like a douche

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#177 Posted by klusps (10386 posts) -

Somebody should honestly make a War Z fail thread for all of this.:lol:

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#178 Posted by FelipeInside (28380 posts) -

Copy and Paste ???

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#179 Posted by FelipeInside (28380 posts) -
The Developer RESPONDS to the claims: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/20/the-war-z-interview-sergey-titov-backlash/
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#180 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

Feels good knowing that when PC gamers really get pissed, we can make sh*t happen.

I hope the War Z never recovers.

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#181 Posted by FelipeInside (28380 posts) -

Feels good knowing that when PC gamers really get pissed, we can make sh*t happen.

I hope the War Z never recovers.

airshocker
I just hope SOMEONE makes a good Zombie MMO.
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#182 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18452 posts) -
There is no way that is the same guy responding that was posting on forums, did other interviews etc..
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#183 Posted by NeonNinja (17318 posts) -

BEST VIDEO EVER ON WARZ!

OMG! Better then the TB video.. thsi is all the facts

http://youtu.be/BUrKdAjN4DM

kozzy1234

That was the best video I saw on the WarZ! :lol:

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#184 Posted by -Unreal- (24650 posts) -

Well if TB says it's bad, it must be baaa-d. icon-sheep.png

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#185 Posted by R4gn4r0k (25865 posts) -

Well if TB says it's bad, it must be baaa-d. icon-sheep.png

-Unreal-

Yeah no way we could see for ourselves that this game is crap, we must all be sheep copying anothers opinion.

You should try and see the reality outside of what TB says, Unreal;)

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#186 Posted by darksusperia (6945 posts) -

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

BEST VIDEO EVER ON WARZ!

OMG! Better then the TB video.. thsi is all the facts

http://youtu.be/BUrKdAjN4DM

NeonNinja

That was the best video I saw on the WarZ! :lol:

That was gold.
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#187 Posted by kozzy1234 (35953 posts) -

The slow man with integrity will ultimately catch the swift one who has none.
- Dean Rocket Halls subtle message on his Twitter


Dayz Devs only commetn so far on this WARZ situation :P

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#188 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

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#189 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (4976 posts) -

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wis3boi
To be accurate, that gif should show steam helping him up and then when the people behind him start to yell then he pushes him back in.